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Title: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: m7feettall on October 27, 2007, 03:41:03 PM
This topic was inspired by one Loial put up.

What do you want in a clan as a member?

If you are a leader what do you expect of members? What do you expect of yourself?
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: coLa on October 27, 2007, 03:53:09 PM
TO WIN!
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: QueeNiE on October 27, 2007, 07:16:27 PM
Whats with DP getting so emo these days.

I just want to crush some newbies.
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: coLa on October 27, 2007, 10:56:43 PM
why would anyone base anything on something by loial.?.
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: atmays on October 28, 2007, 02:28:25 AM
As a leader- I expecct from myself:

Honesty to my members
Good Leadership
Winning mentality
Dedication
Strve to get better


I expect the same from my members in return
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: QueeNiE on October 28, 2007, 10:47:15 AM
You don't expect skill?

I can see a clear future carved out for you.
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: BuLLzEyE on October 28, 2007, 01:36:02 PM
I expect my members to try hard and to get better at the game
I expect them to respect everyone else in the game (sorry atmays for Bane's behavior during our match)
I expect myself to be a good example for people in the game, in or out of my clan
and I expect everyone in the DP community to not hack or cheat in any way
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: flip on October 28, 2007, 07:14:23 PM
You don't expect skill?

I can see a clear future carved out for you.

see... skill.... gotta have the "elite of the elite", "seal team 12" 
mays on the other hand realizes that with loyalty, honesty and dedication... skill will come. that's some clans problem. instead of teaching a descent polite person, they instead flame them, call them "noobs" and recruit the "skilled", big-headed rudest people.
as a member of a "clan" i expect people to show me respect no matter how skilled i am. i treat everyone in my clan the same. i laugh and have a good time.
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: KnacK on October 28, 2007, 07:28:35 PM
Perfect Jay,

Thank you.
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: Justinph5 on October 28, 2007, 07:32:05 PM
agreed, people that show respect to everyone and understand mistakes. People bashing each other, no matter what skill level, will eventually lead to no cooperation on their parts. If for some reason DP disappeared, the number of wins would be forgotten, but the fun would be remembered.
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: atmays on October 28, 2007, 08:32:17 PM
see... skill.... gotta have the "elite of the elite", "seal team 12" 
mays on the other hand realizes that with loyalty, honesty and dedication... skill will come. that's some clans problem. instead of teaching a descent polite person, they instead flame them, call them "noobs" and recruit the "skilled", big-headed rudest people.
as a member of a "clan" i expect people to show me respect no matter how skilled i am. i treat everyone in my clan the same. i laugh and have a good time.

agreed, people that show respect to everyone and understand mistakes. People bashing each other, no matter what skill level, will eventually lead to no cooperation on their parts. If for some reason DP disappeared, the number of wins would be forgotten, but the fun would be remembered.
see... skill.... gotta have the "elite of the elite", "seal team 12" 
mays on the other hand realizes that with loyalty, honesty and dedication... skill will come. that's some clans problem. instead of teaching a descent polite person, they instead flame them, call them "noobs" and recruit the "skilled", big-headed rudest people.
as a member of a "clan" i expect people to show me respect no matter how skilled i am. i treat everyone in my clan the same. i laugh and have a good time.

Exactly

My clan has been together for awhile now. We started as noobs. Look at us now. We can give any clan a run.

I say to all the new clans, get people you can work wit and build on that. Learn your clan mates. Wit time you can be one of the ELITE.
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: Deranged on October 30, 2007, 04:04:50 AM
Not exactly what I expect of my clan, but here's what I expect of other clans. I expect them not to come on our channel and trash talk us just because we like to joke around and have fun in matches, m7. Just because you have the sense of humor of a tree doesn't mean we can't make the game a little more funny.

[23:11] <+[InT]M7feettall> yeah not sure what the problem was
[23:11] <+[InT]M7feettall> other than their usual practice of chewing each other out while the other plays
[23:11] <+[InT]M7feettall> insisting on subs
[23:11] <+[InT]M7feettall> saying they are cut
[23:11] <%WaGGoT> lma
[23:11] <+[InT]M7feettall> etc.
[23:11] <%WaGGoT> ue is a ghetto clan
[23:11] <+[InT]M7feettall> would seem so
[23:11] <%WaGGoT> such a large roster
[23:11] <%WaGGoT> they'll take anyone ;)
[23:17] <+[InT]M7feettall> so any of you ue people actually around?

As for waggot, perhaps bitter that I refused to try him out when zudd left cf for ue before and he wanted to follow? Who knows. 15 people isn't that large of a roster ;) Maybe he's just an idiot :)

</rant>
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: lekky on October 30, 2007, 12:01:04 PM
just because we like to joke around and have fun in matches, m7.

I reserve judgement until I know what that means.
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: XtremeBain on October 30, 2007, 01:11:55 PM
I reserve judgement until I know what that means.

When we have fun in our matches it usually means that BoB spams 200+ lines making fun of DirtyTaco.
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: m7feettall on October 30, 2007, 03:35:51 PM
Not exactly what I expect of my clan, but here's what I expect of other clans. I expect them not to come on our channel and trash talk us just because we like to joke around and have fun in matches, m7. Just because you have the sense of humor of a tree doesn't mean we can't make the game a little more funny.

[23:11] <+[InT]M7feettall> yeah not sure what the problem was
[23:11] <+[InT]M7feettall> other than their usual practice of chewing each other out while the other plays
[23:11] <+[InT]M7feettall> insisting on subs
[23:11] <+[InT]M7feettall> saying they are cut
[23:11] <%WaGGoT> lma
[23:11] <+[InT]M7feettall> etc.
[23:11] <%WaGGoT> ue is a ghetto clan
[23:11] <+[InT]M7feettall> would seem so
[23:11] <%WaGGoT> such a large roster
[23:11] <%WaGGoT> they'll take anyone ;)
[23:17] <+[InT]M7feettall> so any of you ue people actually around?

As for waggot, perhaps bitter that I refused to try him out when zudd left cf for ue before and he wanted to follow? Who knows. 15 people isn't that large of a roster ;) Maybe he's just an idiot :)

</rant>

You can call it a sense of humor if you want but if people are messaging me afterward or in vent afterward talking about how much of a jerk  you were acting like,  then I say your fun must not be very fun.

The slightest downturn in score and people are insisting the person sub out. And fun or not, they often do sub.

The way you talk in game is precisely what I think clans should avoid. But that is just me. Maybe they like the fun of getting cut down for every mistake.

In any case, the reason  I was in your channel was to see why Spawn left. He had told me he left but I hadn't gotten the whole story. I am not sure if any of the above mentioned practices had to do with him leaving because I have still not heard.  But I was talking to Waggot about why I would leave if I were in your clan.




Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: XtremeBain on October 30, 2007, 04:21:10 PM
Forum drama stays on the forums, IRC drama stays on IRC.  No point having these two worlds collide.
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: bitmate on October 30, 2007, 04:49:17 PM
/me slaps XtremeBain around a bit with a large trout
/me is on a collision curse
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: flip on October 30, 2007, 07:52:58 PM
i just find it sorta funny... i could paste alot of the stuff that is wrote on irc or in-game but what is the point? everyone trash talks. i was just pointing out that you should be a little more selective on who gets recruited. but birds of a feather....
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: Deranged on October 30, 2007, 09:59:29 PM
actually, word is homing and spawn got in a little cat fight and homing kicked him, and spawn just said he left to save face or something..

spawns actually the one that started the whole "CUT" inside joke..

EDIT:

[21:07] <@Capo> he said ur players call u jerks
[21:07] <@Deranged> LOL
[21:07] <@Spawn> ye
[21:07] <@Spawn> lol
[21:07] <@Deranged> nah
[21:07] <@Deranged> m7 doesnt know wtf hes talking about ^_^
[21:07] <@Spawn> not me
[21:07] <@Deranged> that was panda
[21:07] <@Spawn> i love you
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: Major on October 30, 2007, 10:11:00 PM
hey buddy can i join uE i like your sense of humour
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: Deranged on October 30, 2007, 10:14:16 PM
We already have rkfm why would we want you

..

..

*runs*

jk :P
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: Major on October 30, 2007, 10:19:28 PM
that hurts forget it not
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: Amidoxz on October 30, 2007, 10:25:46 PM
Drama, drama, drama....
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: Waggot on October 30, 2007, 11:48:15 PM
Just for the record, I was kidding, I like most uE members, Spawn and Breeze for sure, and I never wanted to join uE. Or try out for them. So Deranged can interpret what I said any way he wants. I could care less. Just so everyone else out there knows.

ALSO

I can understand m7's point of view. Lets me honest, how annoying would it be to match a clan and have then spamming things like that. uE is just a really immature clan, not necesarally the members, but definatly the leaders.
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: m7feettall on October 31, 2007, 12:15:28 AM
Quote from: Deranged

[21:07
<@Deranged> m7 doesnt know wtf hes talking about ^_^
[21:07] <@Spawn> not me
[21:07] <@Deranged> that was panda

A. Even by your defense of yourself you admit Panda was ticked at you for treating him poorly

B. Spawn apparently saved face more than once.. He said to me in irc pm that night that he thought you were too hard on them. But then he told you something else later.

C. It doesn't matter anymore as you are now on the no scrim list for at least 3 weeks and maybe longer since you can't keep from dropping f bombs when spawn etc. were playing tonight.

By the way, good game tonight spawn, you were kicking me around.



Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: KiLo on October 31, 2007, 09:12:16 AM
May I ask what is so wrong with the "F BOMB"?
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: m7feettall on October 31, 2007, 04:45:02 PM
May I ask what is so wrong with the "F BOMB"?

We want high standards for our clan and for DP. We do not care to have persistent swearing or trash talking and such in our scrims.  No one is required to submit to our policy unless they actually accept a scrim with us.

Therefore I don't intend to get into a discussion of the ethics of swearing. It is our policy and folks can accept it or not by their choosing to scrim us.





Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: Deranged on October 31, 2007, 06:00:50 PM
It's not like we trash talk you, uE members just like to talk excrement about eachother because.. it's like a game. A game inside a game. You can't sit here and say you've never been part of a group of friends where you would just make fun of them for every little screw up they made, and if you haven't, you've never had friends :)

As for panda, me and him actually got in a fight about something completely different. Nobody has ever left ue because we joke around in matches so far as i know..

Just for the record, I was kidding, I like most uE members, Spawn and Breeze for sure, and I never wanted to join uE. Or try out for them. So Deranged can interpret what I said any way he wants. I could care less. Just so everyone else out there knows.

ALSO

I can understand m7's point of view. Lets me honest, how annoying would it be to match a clan and have then spamming things like that. uE is just a really immature clan, not necesarally the members, but definatly the leaders.


Well gee, thanks kid. Pulling the immature card, what are you? 12? Sorry, but you don't even know me, nor have we ever talked for more than a grand total of probably.. 12 seconds. Perhaps you should take the time to get to know someone before you pass judgement, eh? Unless you're going off what m7 says, which, lets face it, he left a scrim because RKFM said that cade "strafes like a meddling wheel barrow", There's a difference between mental immaturity and social immaturity, think about that for a minute :)

I'm done with this thread. Feel free to continue trash talking me because I joke around with my members just like they joke around with me and perform the amazingly evil sin of the "F BOMB"
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: lekky on October 31, 2007, 07:09:41 PM
Whats an F BOMB? xD xD xD
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: Justinph5 on October 31, 2007, 07:37:23 PM
Whats an F BOMB? xD xD xD

America's dropped the A Bomb, we've dropped the H Bomb, and next thing that'll happen is America will drop the F BOMB!   But I don't think it should be used until authorized by officials... I officially deem it to never be authorized!



*runs before f bomb is ever dropped in this thread!
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: Edgecrusher on November 01, 2007, 07:24:39 AM
Maybe this is of topic but I'll try to get on the edge of it.

Since here the discussion has went into the direction of scrimming and matching, I'd like to share what we experienced against Ue few days  ago. This is not meant to point fingers out, but I must base this on what really happend so that maybe it'll never happen again.

So we tried to match Ue. We all got to the server (European), and normally asked em what is their map. Than they said that we put our map on EU server, and that they will play their map on USA server. We rejected normally and tried to explain rules of matching between USA and EU clans. They didn't listened to any of our explanation and insisted on playing our map our server and their map their server. Result? We all dropped out of server without match.

The point here?

I expect to read and know match rules so this things wont happen again. Also I expect a minimum respect. I expect even more, but my head hurts really bad (funny night) so I'll stop writing.

Rules are not here without purpose.
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: flip on November 01, 2007, 12:06:07 PM
here we go....
the "f-bomb" .. nothing wrong with letting it slip every once in awhile but whe the whole team starts going wild thats when problems start. we (InT) joke with each other all the time. that has nothing to do with it. it's the context in which it is used. hopefully that clears it up. everyone that plays in the same servers as me know i like to tease and joke with certain people. theres nothing wrong with that. what's wrong is when a team starts doing poorly and take it out on everyone in the game by name calling, flaming, and just being plain rude. but it's all good... if you can't have a good time then don't scrim with the ones who want to.

oh.. btw..  with three kids.. i scored an amazing 2 brown paper bags of candy!!!
Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: m7feettall on November 01, 2007, 02:47:35 PM
In this case flip they were clearly joking with each other, and they were in fact winning, so it was different than the issue earlier referenced with Panda, etc.

This was however the fourth incident, and they had just been taken off the list for swearing and for allowing another person to play who was not invited or mentioned initially, and not in their clan.

This was also the second time that Deranged basically said he could do whatever he wanted.

So he can. He just won't do it while playing us.



Title: Re: What do you expect from a clan?
Post by: m7feettall on November 01, 2007, 02:52:10 PM
It's not like we trash talk you, uE members just like to talk excrement about eachother because.. it's like a game. A game inside a game. You can't sit here and say you've never been part of a group of friends where you would just make fun of them for every little screw up they made, and if you haven't, you've never had friends :)

So get in voice and do it to your heart's content. Then you can use whatever vocabulary comes to mind.


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As for panda, me and him actually got in a fight about something completely different. Nobody has ever left ue because we joke around in matches so far as i know..


I only know what I heard in the GT vent server afterward where he was going on about what he thought of you and the way he and spawn were treated. Spawn also pmed me on irc and expressed that you were hard on them.

You went on for probably 10 minutes in that scrim and Gameover and I couldn't figure out why you treated them that way. It was not joking.

Then you went to your irc channel and started in again on them  about embarrassing the clan, getting capped on,  etc. I came in mid-rant as I was going to try to explain that it was just one scrim, and no big deal.

Did they not get the joke the first 20 times?


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Unless you're going off what m7 says, which, lets face it, he left a scrim because RKFM said that cade "strafes like a meddling wheel barrow."


I left because it is our policy to leave. You violated the policy for the fourth time. By the fourth time I don't care what your reasons are.