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Paintball 2: The Game => Paintball 2 Discussion => Topic started by: loial21 on August 11, 2005, 01:41:15 AM
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Jitspoe,
This is very old I know but this best describes my complaints in regards to cheating and using more than one name.
In posting this I hope to have my complaints about cheating reduced. I am trying. No matter my ignorance.
*thus the client side proxy cheat comments.
My largest hope is that you understand my ignorance and sense of urgency to be rid of crap like this. Nothing personal to anyone better than me. :)
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To be honest, aimbots are pretty useless in paintball2. There's already some anti-zbot code in there, too.
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No offensive, I am trying to be mature, less ignorant about laying blame. Something we need to be responsible for. Unlike Bob and UNi's desire for me to be a phag the past couple of nights, I am not.
Sorry fellas i like grown women that beg :)
You mean a client-side proxy cheat can not be used on my server?
What so ever?
Despite of the clients version?
I asssume that by pretty useless you mean that ball flight negates the cheat being utterly useless be cause of the lead factor?. I have also heard lately the term Liners , meaning no arc , used by alot of newer players this year. Again, any idea what they mean, I assume since its mostly on xb1 (i know,i know) that the shots they are recieving are not being arched correctly? Is this known or player toggleable?
God bless
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I'm not sure what is meant by "liners", but the ball flight is controlled entirely server side, so there's no way clients can cheat or make it act differently.
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I believe you are wrong on what you think is meant by "liners"...
As far as I have seen, people who are called "liners" are those who stand in one spot and "line" to a certain other spot where people are most likely running through. Corners, typically, or narrowways. Just dont worry about them :)
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I like reading your posts because they're like trying to solve a crossword puzzle. Anyway, the only "cheat" that is an issue is the wallhack. It's been this way for years. The aimbots/speedcheats/etc. are all extremely easy to identify, and thus deal with.
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I like reading your posts because they're like trying to solve a crossword puzzle.
Thanks :)
The aimbots/speedcheats/etc. are all extremely easy to identify, and thus deal with.
Any helpful hints how to spot? And how to deal with them?
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Sorry for the America's Army referrance again but they have the abillity to go to a web site and view the offending players screen shots. A really good tool, how easy is to make something like this?
Is it really that easy :)
Thanks Iron, I was pointing this questions to Blitzen.
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np
we all texans
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I'm not texan.
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To bad.
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I was recently in texas...
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Did it remind you of being in hell?
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No. Well, almost. There was the world's largest cross in the western hemisphere. It was windy. The cross was big. Lots of boring things. Didn't stop long.
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If you like trees, go to oregon. Also, bad economy. And sometimes stupid head people.
WE NEED A NEW JAIL! LET'S NOT USE THE NEW ONE THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD TO RUN, LET'S BUILD A WHOLE NEW ONE INSTEAD!!!!
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i think az is hell...
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that would be the 1st plane of Hell. New mexico being the 3rd and California the 4th
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Hm... california has disneyland, so that'd bump it up one or two.
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ITS A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL......KILL ME NOW!!!!
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lol
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sighs i died in florida disney world / epcot center
aka the 666 layer of the abyss. No one speaks english. I can live with that. No one speaks the same languge!!!! NOOOOO!!!!!!!!
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loial is a zombie. I knew it! That explains why his posts are so hard to read!
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(Actually, the new space mountain is REALLY great)
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I like boobs. Not brains.
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O.o
I like space mountain.
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AZ is hell...why do you think I moved from it. BTW (off subject), Im very happy moving to Colorado.
Texas? lol. ok. It's almost like Arizona, but bigger and with a beach, right? :)
Loial. the way I've heard 'Liner' referd to is like a sprayer. One who sits in a spot spraying a popular entrance into one's fort. I started hearing this months (a year??) ago first coined by the German players (which kinda explains the term). Any time they would get killed by rushing into a fort and it was by some one that sprayed in one spot without moving, they would 'yell' out "LINER". I asked and that was the definition that I recieved.
Im infavor of a stats page, btw. Make the game something worth playing well. give people a reason to want to play well, and they will. Also, I think one main reason that people do not want to play with skill (read: stratagy) is because: why should they have a stratagy when they can just jump like hell and rush the other team in surprise?? Take that away, and they will be forced to play on even terms.
I my self am guilty of this. I realize this and still do it cause it is available.
Wicked has not (and may never) perfect the speed jump and because of that fact, she plays with much more stratagy. I end up with more kills, but she plays much better them me at times. Often in a one-on-one, she will kick my arse.
While the speed jump continues to exsist, the faster players will always travel the fastest path on a map. This will always make a multi pathed map into a single path map and then the bigger multi pathed maps are rarly desired(the logic goes...why should I jump all that way just to get killed in the first 10 - 20 seconds of the round? give me a smaller map where all the people dies about the same time as me so I dont have to wait around for a minute before I can play for another 10 seconds!). People will want to play the smaller, simpler maps so that the speed jump has less advantage against them.
The game has degraded from a skilled/stratigicly played map into 'who can kill the fastest and the most just to strut thier excrement'. Im not sure how much of this is due to the old school (better??) players leaving, and due to the physics of the game being changed to advantage those who desire speed.
my $.02
-Derrek
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Hail your post. Well put sir.
Loial asks that ever question Derrek asked *better than ever could have... to be sincerely anwsered in a timly fasion by Jits and him only.
In summation, Jitspoe in regards to our server please be more attentive I dont ask much. But logical fair play. In fact I have been accused of being "to" fair and or logical.
With that being said I read your post you were Jitspoe was going to be gone.
My apology i will dupe this post on Loial's map requests..for its a worthy post. I wish more would speak up. For the sake of the game, instead of putting down others try explain your point of view, instead of being a bob in or out of game ;)
As a matter of fact Bob besides james are you smoke? sad? bob? or to me ur princess BOB :)
Sumer says hello and stop picking on meh you should know better . She laughed at me for calling you and UNI exploiters. I should know better. I have lost sleep over this. But.......
She then reminded me of clan (NIN) q2WOD and (NIN)Ruiner and other (NIN)CUM_poops. That would completely pj everyone via a proxy despite map/server or Mod. Thus my comments on oversizing packets.
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due to the physics of the game being changed to advantage those who desire speed
Eh... I haven't changed the physics of the game. The strafe jumping/bunny hopping/double jumping is there from quake2. I'm afraid I'd by lynched if I took that out. :)
The NIN clan probably sent oversized packets directly to other clients. This is difficult to do now as the client ports are randomized in order to prevent those types of attacks.
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due to the physics of the game being changed to advantage those who desire speed
Eh... I haven't changed the physics of the game. The strafe jumping/bunny hopping/double jumping is there from quake2. I'm afraid I'd by lynched if I took that out. :)
The NIN clan probably sent oversized packets directly to other clients. This is difficult to do now as the client ports are randomized in order to prevent those types of attacks.
Jitspoe thanks I did not know this I assumed that is what was being done to me as been done in other q2mods. If what your saying is cant be done then I owe a few more apolgiies. No scrafe jump yes not double jumping up on something that normally require a rocket jump to do.
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Randomized maybe but still seeable at console thus still possible. I heard rumors about it happening in pball. Gee it's fun to post on every thread... when I run out of comments I'll just type gibberish like that LGM guy :)
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On multi-path maps eR33t uses a cover-all approach and hardly ever travels in packs through the faster or better path. Putting all your players through the same path either leaves you wide open to the other team grabbing, your entire team falling victim to a significantly smaller group of defenders("campers") or both, resulting in a 3 point loss or even a bad grab-cap-grab-kill situation if the other team can sand-bag you long enough. Covering all the paths lets you retreat in case one of the paths becomes wide open while not suffering major losses.
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its Ogier.. not gibberish.