Digital Paint Discussion Board
Paintball 2: The Game => Paintball 2 Discussion => Topic started by: FlaMe on January 03, 2008, 03:25:31 PM
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I do not want this to become a flamefest... Just want to see how this turns out.
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looks familiar. hm........ which way should i vote.
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Horrible, get em out!
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uhm too many mistakes in too many cases thats my opinion...
and the most of them dont even have the qualifikation to sit in the commitee
(dont want to say i would do the job better)
it is just not needed
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Me? this has nothing to do with me I just wanna see how the poll goes... looks a bit one sided right now though
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I like the fact that having a committee takes a lot of pressure and decissions off of jitspoe making his life easier and what not, can't always agree with decissions.
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I never really liked the idea of a committe, I think I even said so before it was made.
But hey, you dont see me complaining about every single decicion they make, why? Well, first I believe most of their decicions are right, and second I think that dp needs this, and changing the committe members is only going to favor some people more than others... And I think we all know who those people are.
So basicly my point is... Theyre doing fine.
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Yes they are, someone is going a little bit too far with all this i guess.
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I dont see what you guys mean by me "getting out of hand" or "setting a bad name for myself"
I have not attacked anyone... I respect 8 out of 9 of the committee members...
I just want to see what this poll says about what everyone thinks about the positives / negatives of said committee...
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I have not attacked anyone... I respect 8 out of 9 of the committee members...
Aren't there 10 members?
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there were but Viciouz dropped out I'm pretty sure.
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Not yet, if there is a re-election I will.
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I would be surprised if anyone stays in the committee after keep being disrespected for no reson.
Worst "job" in the world.
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12@10FlaMe4:: 00!members #dpcommittee
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My bad Viciouz
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Theyre doing fine
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I like what they are doing but there are too many people. I am neutral because it doesn't affect me and regardless of what I think, it won't change anything and the committee is cleaning out all people with more then one account.
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i think of it as less ppl less idea's/choices from all the ppl i think that with all the inactive ppl the committee really isnt work with full 100 % agree with every 1 not their fault but let me ask this when we started voting how many of us really looked at who we voted for or went o this is my friend ill vote for them like seriously this is like when bush ran from pres his 1st time
every 1 liked him now every 1 hates him alot of ppl dont relize this but its tru if u think about i see the committee saying their gonna do something and doing the complete oppsite
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I think they're doing fine.
It is not a perfect world and everyone is not always going to be happy. Leadership is all about learning and making decisions based on information.
Will everyone be pleased with the outcome? No way. But it's all about the better good and I think that all of the members are doing a fine job.
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Not really happy.
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Not really happy.
Care to elaborate?
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Yeah...a rotation Committee.
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The thing that bugs me is that only Lekky and Knack speak in front of committee.
So naturally they are attacked more often.
And also, because of that it seems like they are running the committee (not saying it's the truth, it just looks like that from my aspect). Which leads to diferent problem - how active are the rest of them? They don't need to play the game, but they need to voice their opinion. On the committee matters.
If you don't want to do the job, resign. You were elected by the community to represent all players and their interests.
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I think they're doing fine.
It is not a perfect world and everyone is not always going to be happy. Leadership is all about learning and making decisions based on information.
Will everyone be pleased with the outcome? No way. But it's all about the better good and I think that all of the members are doing a fine job.
Yes, that is true.
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Care to elaborate?
Not really.
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Edge is correct in two ways.
1. Logic of the decisions and activity or lack of the elected, should always be public.
2. Also there should be term limits. In that there is a rotation. In that the more votes you get the longer you stay but, one day you have to go.
3. I D K U tell me
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The thing that bugs me is that only Lekky and Knack speak in front of committee.
I agree 100% with that statement.
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And yet those are the ones you most dislike? o.O
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I agree 100% with that statement.
Please Flame don't quote only part of my reply, I was merely saying that they are in most casses the only one who speaks in front of committee, I don't mind that, I mind that no one else does. 2 out of 10 is really low number and one of them is global mod, so he must speak on those sort of issues.
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Some of you speak like the committee has all this power. The committee has no power. We have rules and guidelines we go by. We discuss each and every case. We investigate each and every accusation.
Each offense has limitations on what is allowed, as far as punishments go. Naturally, because this is all new, we are continually running across special cases that cross lines, or don't fit in any already made category. These cases have to be weeded out and a standard set for them.
The committee acts on facts as they are available. The committee does not, for the most part, act on opinion or emotion as far as I can tell. I have seen committee members vote for bans on their friends. This alone shows that each member is being impartial, and making choices solely on the facts of the case as set forth by the rules.
I don't know if this is legal for me to do, but when DT came up for multiple account vote I voted to ban based on the rules, Uni voted to warn because he thought it must have been a mistake. If either of us were bias don't you think Uni would have voted a large ban, and I a warn?
I commend every single person in the committee. The job is not glorious. The job is often difficult, especially when a friend comes up for vote. But I think every single individual, without exception, has done a fine job. I hope no committee member falls to the predictable public hatred and pressure that I knew would come.
Seriously, I was never a fan of the committee. I hated the fact of 10 people making the rules. But that's not what the committee is about. The committee is about investigating cases and upholding the, already in place, rules to relieve pressure off of Jitspoe. They are his rules, we just go by them on a case by case basis.
Lekky and Knack the only public voice:
The only way I would be willing to entertain public discussion of my choices are if Jitspoe made the committee forum read-only to the public. I think it would perfectly fine for the public to see how we handle things. Being that cases often contain personal data not wise to make public, this would probably never happen.
Committee Member Term:
Whatever choice is made on term should be made by Jitspoe without public pressure. You are not going to please everyone, and if a new vote were held the new committee would face the exact same issues as this committee. I understand you guys, "fight the power."
It is true that some committee members are more active than others. I personally don't think I am active enough, not in public forum, mind you, but in investigation and decision making. But, this is the end of a busy holiday season, so we'll see if the less active spring back into the game.
Committee is doing fine!
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Totaly agreed S8NNSSON although I do believe as Edgecrusher said a few more committee members should be public voices such as Vic, Spook or Zorch (where has he been lately anyways?).
Edit: Just an idea but maybe the committee should use the innocent until proven guilty (or discuss first ban after) rule not guilty until proven innocent (or ban first discuss after)
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Committee is doing great. They havent fallen under the pressure. Although i do feel that committee needs a abit more independency and needs to have more saying in the contents of the game.
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Duplicate thread, locked.