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Paintball 2: The Game => Paintball 2 Discussion => Topic started by: Riddick on January 05, 2008, 08:54:27 PM
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You were dishonest before, so why should I believe you now? The committee will decide
now thats a direct quote from jitspoe on my situation. now lets think about this
1)i have a new internet
2) i moved
3) new computer
So why would i go to jitspoe for help on the fact that i noticed my old accounts were still there if i knew full well i would never be caught with this one? its because i thought those accounts would have been deleted or suspended so i thought i needed to make a new one.so why ban me for an honest mistake, this makes no sense to me anyone else wanna share their view
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Well jitspoe runs the game and can pretty much do what he wants. But yeah, I dunno. Maybe you shouldn't be banned at all or 8 days or something. Not really fair.
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This is the way I see it...
1) reaver loses his password, posts about it on the forums
2) reaver leaves dp for a little while
3) reaver moves to his dad's, complete new ip, new computer, all new. no way to track him
4) reaver asks jitspoe to resolve the problem
5) jitspoe tells reaver that he's being dishonest and it's up to the comittee whether or not he gets banned over something nobody would have found out about had he not asked jitspoe to help him fix it
6) onslaught(reaver) posts a thread about his "injustice"
7) thread is deleted for no reason(forethought). whole thing probably being covered up(still forethought :D). onslaught will be banned for no reason(probably going to happen based on the members of the committee and favoritism).
Maybe being honest is a mistake around here?
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So this is a multi-account issue? I'm confused about the timeline here.
Reaver moves (new IP, etc) -> Reaver asks jits to recover password -> Reaver banned?
You must be leaving something out, that doesn't make any sense. :P
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No Reaver has a new ISP, a new MAC address, and a new address for his house...
How would anyone have pinned him as being Reaver without physically going to his house and watching him log in as Onslaught.
He was convinced the Reaver accounts were deleted so he was surprised when he saw the Reaver ones on old members list so he told jits, and jits smacked him with a ban...
...thats what i know to my knowledge anyway
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i don't think he should be banned, it was an honest mistake. it's kinda like the boy who cried wolf, you lied once and are now labeled as a liar. pretty unfair, but that is the way it goes. maybe you should have checked to see if your old accounts had been deleted before you created the new one. or maybe you should have went to jitspoe first, before you did anything.
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Unless he actually logged in with the account then he shouldn't be banned. After his multiple account ban before he figured his accounts were deleted.
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Afaik, he hasn't logged into reaver since he was last banned.
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Ok, you want to play hardball? Fine.
#1 - When you returned to the game, you lied about your identity and pretended to be a new player. Somebody suspected you and reported you to the committee.
#2 - When I asked you about some of the accounts used on your computer, you lied about them.
#3 - You're lying right now. Due to a slight oversight, I missed the hardware ID match on my first check:
Old: 3,8,809,1253,1254,1817,1818,1819,1819,55266
New: 8,809,1253,1254,1817,1818,1819,1819,216440
You didn't get a new computer. Changed a couple things, maybe, but we could have still tracked down your old account.
So, fair action? By the books? 32 day ban. 16 day ban because you were reported before admitting, x2 for second offense. You may have gotten by with just an 8 day ban, too. You should have just shut up and let the committee decide. I don't have time to deal with this, and I'm tired of rule breakers pretending to be the victim.
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lmfao reaver you cant lie about stuff like a new comp...
MAC Addresses dont change silly n00b...
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Sigh. He was being truthful about why he created a new account. But, lying about getting a new computer is just his own stupidity. Have fun in ban land bro :P
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i didnt lie about a new computer rofl.
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The numbers say differently, it would seem. I don't see why getting a new computer would make you exempt from the 'one account per person' thing, anyway.
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i didnt lie about a new computer rofl.
are you sure it wasnt something like a simple cage replacement?
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considering i bought an alienware yes i am. i took a couple things out and replaced them with my old computer stuff but thats it. and i highly doubt that would change the id. but w/e. jitspoe is just hiding
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i replaced the stuff because it was better than some of the alienware hardware :P / my father replaced it cuz hes a computer genius o_O. heh
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considering i bought an alienware yes i am. i took a couple things out and replaced them with my old computer stuff but thats it. and i highly doubt that would change the id. but w/e. jitspoe is just hiding
Well gee, that sounds like exactly what jitspoe's describing. Remember that thing you agreed to when you signed up for an account that said you get one per person? That even applies if you move.
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eiii i was banned once for multiple accounts . i was under the impression that they were all either deleted or suspended. dont talk unless you know the whole story. no offense :P
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don't believe that you would replace stuff out of an alienware pc, since those are near top line factorymade, and if your parts are better than the alienware, than you would have just upgraded your old one other than buying a new few thousand dollar machine... Am I right?
Anyways, its not my say on questioning things, since I don't know the matter.... I just found it odd..... :P
p.s. - I believe a pm to Jitspoe or committee was more appropriate...
*edit - I won't even touch the post below... 7 years old LOL, I don't believe many new parts that are better than Alienware would be compatible with 7 year old comp's...??? anyone know otherwise???
p.s. - then please don't make topics for everyone to post if you don't want them meddling... thats why I believe pm's would be better :P
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my old computer was like 7 years old with a few new parts. im sorry that i wanted a better computer. you people are meddling retards. have fun driving all your players from your game jitspoe.
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steroid usage affects you not only mentally but physically =X
no need to rage
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i was under the impression that they were all either deleted or suspended.
Yeah, thats what usually happens when you get banned...
Also, I dont think that just because you thought your old account was gone you shoudlnt receive a ban.
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You blatantly lied. You tried to portray a noob. It took over a month before you decide to admit it. Liars burn in hell enjoy the ban
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see you in hell hades =P
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Lol sorry but no pity for this guy the fact he is trying to act like a victim is pathetic. I know I was the first person to have him in a clan when he came back. Asking me stupid donkey questions like what is ventrilo. How do I specinvite. I know pbcup and pbcup_renoir though but played for only 2 weeks. You deserve it just for trying to make jitspoe look like a hard ass which we all know is obviously not true. Jitspoe is usually overly nice and tolerates too much nonsense from you guys. Yea I knew I was going to hell the day I took over leadership for DABO.
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hades try a week. i thought all my accounts were either suspended/deleted, so i wanted to start over and be less hated in the community. and when i found out they werent i went to jitspoe. you take way to many drugs
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in his defense hades, you werent active when all the reaver drama went down
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He lied. End of story.
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well youd lie too if everyone spammed how much they hated you when you left...
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so i wanted to start over and be less hated in the community
Thats the problem right there.
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Uhm No? I was one of the most hated guys when I lead DABO Jitspoe and them thought i was a disgust to the game. Now one of the most enjoyed people around people change people grow up. He can do the same like a big boy
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lol rephrase that...
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He lied. End of story.
That's arguable, but whether he did or not all that matters is he created the account without knowledge that his other account was still active. That's what this ban talk is about. Not whether or not he lied about some completely random fact (which he didn't. He has multiple computers. One is a new alienware. And the part that he took from his old one was just the hard drive to preserve files)
Not trying to choose sides here. But I think this topic is getting way off on a tangent and/or turning into some kind of witch hunt
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the new ISP would have thrown you all off anyway...
Riddle me this: would you have been able to prove his ban had he not told you he had made a new account
...did he login to Reaver during the time he logged into onslaught?
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its not questionable would you like the demo's of when he first came back 3+ weeks ago when he joined cF. Saying he just started playing for two weeks and was a nooblet?
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hades i lied. it was my 2nd day back jitspoe could tell you the same thing. cuz i created it the day before. lol
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i wanted people to think i was new, so why would i say o its my 2nd day playing and im just good
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there you go you lied. End of story, end this thread. If you weren't liked then and if you haven't changed personality wise. Guess what you aren't going to be liked again. So no matter how many new names you make etc. You are who you are. Sick and tired of these pathetic threads over the dumbest effing things. You are arguing something that is deserved. If i can change from a racist spamming immature loser anyone can. Give it a try before trying to portray a fake identity. If you wanna harass jitspoe then do it for his lack of match improvements and caring about noobs way to much. Not this petty bullexcrement.
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since when do people get banned for lying?
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TY flame at least someone is using the brain they were given
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He's gonna be banned for having more then once account, we know it was a mistake, but it is a 2nd offense and he's getting off very easy.
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i hear ya spook. but idk just seems like anything > 8 days is stupid since he never logged into Reaver and had a new ISP...
idk how anyone would have proved it...
Its only illegal if ya get caught?
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The lie was he was portraying someone he actually wasn't with another account. I am using my brain and see this as all being fair.
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The lie was he was portraying someone he actually wasn't with another account. I am using my brain and see this as all being fair.
He never lied to me about who he was.. dunno where you get this from. Maybe he only lied to people that were detectives to him when he played as reaver?
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i semi-believe the transferred harddrive story... and like i said... since when do people get banned for lying
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He never lied to me about who he was.. dunno where you get this from. Maybe he only lied to people that were detectives to him when he played as reaver?
He lied to me right off the back and all of cF also Allstarz and eW I think it was. Constantly saying he was not reaver and only been playing for two weeks.
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we know this... HE DIDNT WANT TO ADMIT HE WAS REAVER... PEOPLE DISLIKED REAVER... omg... lmao why do u find this so hard...
People hated him when he left... he wanted to start fresh... he just realized livin a lie is too much hard work after too long a time
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Running out of steam to flame on this thread either way the ban is happening kthxbai
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just my 10cents.. its only a game kids :-) if you hate how its run sooo much, pay for your own server and dont use the login system
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The committee had voted 5-3 for an 8 day ban (vs.16). I was just about to call the issue resolved when I see OnSlaught has posted a thread calling me an ass. Not interested in another flame fest, I promptly deleted the thread, but he was persistent. This time he altered it slightly calling me "unfair." All because I doubted his honesty and left it in the hands of the committee.
So I made it fair. I bypassed the committee and gave him a standard second offense ban for multiple accounts: 32 days. Ignorance is no excuse. Besides, if he were honest and tried to come back with one of his original names, he would have realized it was still in the system. If people want to come crying to me about the committee's decision on something, I can make it worse. If you want to get on my bad side, lie to me.
Also, there's a 2 for 1 special on forum bans tonight. iEATn00bs and Moe_Lester just got a good deal for spamming this thread. If anybody else feels like pushing the boundaries of my tolerance, now is the time, since I'm not presently in a good mood.
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Good decision Jitspoe. He obviously knew that his other account was still active. And obviously he cannot be trusted as evidenced by the multiple times he has been caught lying to the committee.
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darkness is mad i quit his clan. grow up
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grow up
Guess who this is coming from? :D
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Don't make me laugh so hard OnSlaught.