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Title: what is hamachi.
Post by: godzilla on January 10, 2008, 04:47:58 AM
hamachi is a program used to make a local area game. for instance.

if you wanted to make a server without having the trouble of setting a normal one up, use hamachi and get peaople to join on your ip on hamachi.

here is the download

http://hamachi.en.softonic.com/
Title: Re: what is hamachi.
Post by: Eiii on January 10, 2008, 09:29:26 AM
This wouldn't work for DP at all.
Title: Re: what is hamachi.
Post by: ViciouZ on January 10, 2008, 11:06:58 AM
Well, it does, but just getting a GT/QeHs/OTB is easier, and almost guaranteed to work.
Title: Re: what is hamachi.
Post by: y00tz on January 10, 2008, 11:27:31 AM
Yeah it works, but first, why is this guy linking to a third-party no-name download site?  Smells a little phishy to me.

Official: www.hamachi.cc
Title: Re: what is hamachi.
Post by: godzilla on January 10, 2008, 11:33:06 PM
well i tryed to find that site yootz

but i couldnt so i just gave a website on some info...

and yes it does work for paintball....if you wanted to play your friend or something in a server that has your rules, your preference then use hamachi.

Title: Re: what is hamachi.
Post by: atmays on January 11, 2008, 12:54:34 AM
how would you set it up
Title: Re: what is hamachi.
Post by: godzilla on January 11, 2008, 03:53:20 AM
well you would first get a channel....

make a pass for it then get your friend to connect to that channel.

then when you start a game on paintball

your friend can see the game on the server list.

its that easy =]
Title: Re: what is hamachi.
Post by: KnacK on January 11, 2008, 09:58:35 AM
Have you tried it yet?
Title: Re: what is hamachi.
Post by: godzilla on January 12, 2008, 04:33:18 AM
yes i have

actually i play warcraft and paintball with my friends using hamachi
Title: Re: what is hamachi.
Post by: DrRickDaglessMD on January 12, 2008, 06:15:14 PM
Hamachi is pretty good in my experience, though I'd never use it for DP (whats the point? just setting up normal port forwards is a much better permanent fix to any connectivity problems you might have).

I use it for games like C&C Generals, GTA2, etc... which are older and can have real problems in playing over the internet without it.

You can have some problems with it on certain ISP's, at least in the UK. When I was on PlusNet, it seemed their traffic classification system held up encrypted UDP packets (such as those used in the default hamachi VPN's) as a matter of policy; this meant really high latency and dropped packets - problem was solved when you configured the tunnels to be unencrypted, however this is obviously less safe.

- Dagless
Title: Re: what is hamachi.
Post by: y00tz on January 13, 2008, 02:12:02 PM
Hamachi is pretty good in my experience, though I'd never use it for DP (whats the point? just setting up normal port forwards is a much better permanent fix to any connectivity problems you might have).

For me it was a matter of convenience, if 4 people are already on Hamachi playing Doom 2, Armies of Exigo, or whatever, it's easy just to load up Hamachi and play non-public via vpn.
Title: Re: what is hamachi.
Post by: sk89q on January 13, 2008, 05:07:10 PM
UDP doesn't have an encryption bit. :/ Encrypted data looks like unencrypted data. Maybe it was the overhead of encryption, since it does tend to significantly increase the size of the payload.
Title: Re: what is hamachi.
Post by: DrRickDaglessMD on January 13, 2008, 10:46:42 PM
from what I have gathered of their classification system, it does at least some DPI on all the traffic. Initially it was very flaky and frustrating, now its been running a year or two and appears to have adapted pretty well to the demands of gamers and VoIP users. I'm not with them anymore so I can't really try it out. The difference between pinging a local friend on an encrypted VPN and an unencrypted vpn was often >1000ms.

- Dagless

edit: and no sooner do I post this I come across the wiki article that mentions the DPI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plusnet#Deep_Packet_Inspection_and_Bandwidth_Management