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Digital Paint Community => Other Stuff => Topic started by: Zorchenhimer on August 16, 2008, 10:55:09 PM
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This could be a great protection and deterrence from the nukes Russia is about to first strike us with any time now. This is obvious to me. Russia pounced on Georgia, who's been screaming to get under NATO, just to see what our response would be. If we show weakness I believe Russia may just first strike us to gain world supremacy.
I can't see that Georgia thing ending well. Have a feeling all Hell is gonna break loose. :-\
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Yeah i'm actually scared for my daughter. I've lived a good portion of my life, but she's got her entire life ahead of her....or not.
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Actually, I'm curious as to what everybody thinks about the whole Georgia thing that happened-- I really don't know much about it, but what I have seen is that the Georgian government has done a fantastic job of literally playing the media, and now they seem to have the sympathy of most of the world.
What I've seen is the following: Georgia invades South Ossetia, friend of Russia, then Russia rolls in to stop it (perhaps too aggressively-- again I don't know too much here) and Georgia cries out, runs to just about every media outlet possible, and makes it look like Russia is beating up on them. I haven't really seen any fallout from Russia propaganda in the news or otherwise, perhaps just because Georgia got there first. Who knows, maybe the Russian psyops people don't know what they're doing or are non-existent, but it sure looks to me like Georgia knows exactly what they're doing in that regard.
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Actually, I'm curious as to what everybody thinks about the whole Georgia thing that happened-- I really don't know much about it, but what I have seen is that the Georgian government has done a fantastic job of literally playing the media, and now they seem to have the sympathy of most of the world.
My saying in this matter is probably not the fairest, because when georgia became democratic and said "intercourse off russia", then estonia supported georgia, because we were in the same position in the early 90's.
Few years ago georgia was russias puppet. Then the revolution was made and country set their sight to europe and nato. In some winter (2006/2007 maybe), when there was really cold weather, russia turned off the gas lines supporting georgia, and told that they will turn them on, if georgia would pay a quadruple price or whatnot. This was because russia is a piece of excrement (their politics, not its people) and wants to control everything.
This time, russia said they are "peace keepers". Lol like yeah, then skater is a good boy.
What I've seen is the following: Georgia invades South Ossetia, friend of Russia, then Russia rolls in to stop it
South ossetia is part of georgia. By invading to south ossetia russia breaks the rules of sovereignty of georgia. By what i have read from interviews with people, who were in georgia, it seems that regular ossetian people have nothing against georgian people and vice versa. If some ossetian rebels yell that georgia is harrassing them and everything sucks without russian help, then i wouldnt believe it.
I haven't really seen any fallout from Russia propaganda in the news or otherwise, perhaps just because Georgia got there first.
Well, georgia got everyones sympathy 1) when they became democratic 2)when russia intercoursed with gas lines 3) when russia provoked the war.
You should see russian media. I dont have many russian channels, which i can see, but on some talkshow where they talked about the war, they showed russian boys with short pants who were helping the elders and giving food and blabla and georgian army who were shooting and bombing.
I believe if you ask a random russian, then he would believe that russia has done everything right.
Oh and, about who started the war? Russia claims "GEORGIA, GEORGIA", well d000h. Of course they started it. But who gives a intercourse. Those south ossetians, russian puppets, provoked them hard enough, to get russia to save them all.
Oh and 1 more thing. Russia told that the reason why they are peace keeping is because there are many russia citizens in south ossetia, which is true, and they must save them. Well, that smells like 1939 and nazi germany... (think czechoslovakia)
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WOAH blaa are you from Estonia or there abouts?
You just gave us a perspective we would not have seen otherwise. It doesn't make me feel any better about the situation though. In fact maybe worse.
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What worries me is the exaggerated fear of some people. They overrate an action and overreact. I'm not against reacting, just overreacting.
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usa told georgia to invade russia so that russia would have to invade a smaller country. the usa could wag here finger at russia for being a "bully". this makes usa invading iran not look as bad, and if anyone says its wrong, the u.s will just say well look what russia is doing.
why do you think there is so much attention to this little invasion in america,when stuff like this happens all the time in other countries but always gets over looked.
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I was wondering, When is the Iraq war really gonna end for the US?, and when will we go to war again, and with whom?
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That is a really stupid question, no one can possibly answer that. You can't give dates and names for something that hasn't happened yet.
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USA didn't "TELL" Georgia to invade Russia...do you seriously think that?
...and 911 was done by the US?
...and we never went to the moon?
LOL I ROFLMAO
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The media over there in america is contributing much to the heat up. Over here in Europe, it's not as radical as over there.
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USA didn't "TELL" Georgia to invade Russia...do you seriously think that?
...and 911 was done by the US?
...and we never went to the moon?
LOL I ROFLMAO
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope
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Georgia must have thought that they'd get support from the West if they invaded South Ossetia, and that's probably why they did it. The West doesn't see Russia in that well of a light, but we know that if anyone tried to go in and fight Russia, we'd have a much larger war on our hands. Georgia wants South Ossetia back, but 99% of voters on the independence referendum in South Ossestia from two years supported independence. The international community has not acknowledged either of the independence referendums though, so South Ossetia is still considered part of Georgia.
It's Georgia's fault here for provoking the conflict, and it was a very dumb idea. With the Olympics going on at the same time too, a lot of people won't even care.
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why do you think there is so much attention to this little invasion in america,when stuff like this happens all the time in other countries but always gets over looked.
Wait, what? You know that we are talking about a small European country, and not the state of Georgia, correct?
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The sentence just needs better construction.
Why do you think America is paying so much attention to this little invasion, when stuff like this happens all the time in other countries but always gets overlooked?
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thank you eiii. thats what i meant
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Stupid canadians in American affairs. Get out.
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a neutral opinion. thats all
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Hey spook maybe you can not be so negative, I don't expect you to pull out your crystal ball and tell me, I expect you to at least share your thoughts on what you think will happen. Thank You Very Much
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Not my style, would rather be excessively rude. Should have seen the last post I had before it was deleted.
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We are human
We are selfish
We will forever want
We will forever war
We are human
Blind is the eye that can not see the truth of what we are.
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Fighting and wars have always happened and will continue to do so. The reasons for each war depend on which eye is looking at them. We as a society feed on drama way too much. The news media of course will talk about this constantly with 24 hour news stations going on with so little to talk about. As people sit here crying about something that they can not stop from happening (be it in Georgia or somewhere else) there are thousands of little puppies that need rehoming. Please contact your local chapter of the humane society.
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Wait, what? You know that we are talking about a small European country, and not the state of Georgia, correct?
(http://g.photos.cx/4-71.jpg)
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Has anyone else seen these amateur photographs from South Ossetia yet? Surreal:
http://englishrussia.com/?p=2010
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I saw that Yahoo Answers page on 4chan, I lol'd
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The news media of course will talk about this constantly with 24 hour news stations going on with so little to talk about.
*american media
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I don't really understand war. It's quite stupid. "I don't like the way they've been handling their affairs....I know I'll go kill a few of them." Why can't it all be settle over a friendly game of checkers....Or DP!?
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*american media
Is there any other? I didn't know that European countries had news media. I'm sorry. That is why I didn't specify.
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I think he is referring to the fact that a lot of european media is no longer mentioning georgia in the headlines and preferring to concentrate on the olympics.
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Is there any other? I didn't know that European countries had news media. I'm sorry. That is why I didn't specify.
lol? Don't know if you are joking or not...
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I sure hope this ends we dont need another war
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Yes lekky, I am joking. Please remember I spent a good portion of my childhood growing up in the shadow of the IronCurtain. Hopefully, if there is a chance the nukes will fly, I will be safe here in the mountains. Muhahahha.
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:P
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The media over there in america is contributing much to the heat up. Over here in Europe, it's not as radical as over there.
Not correct. To be fair, the actions by some "big" nations in EU is stunning to some of the nations, who were in a similar situations early 90's. Germany is building a gas pipe from russia to germany. Of course money is bigger than some nubs in georgia.
Although I heard merkel told that medvedvev didnt hold his word, I believe the vast majority of germans think that "OOHHH, dont think we should rush with judgement yet!!! dunno who is to blame!"
WOAH blaa are you from Estonia or there abouts?
yeah
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i have done allot of research on this war and realized that Russia is not the aggressor in this case. what Georgia did to civilian was immorally wrong. they first hit them with artillery killing many then they went in and tried to kill as many civilians as they could. they threw grenades into basements where they knew only civilians where hiding. there was even a incident where a 80 old guy got shot with a sniper. there was over two thousand Casualties of civilians only in those two break away regions. America's actions are embarrassing. acting as Georgia was innocent protecting genocide , news media will go with the flow of nato and the u.s government. also Georgia Violated a peace treaty that they had with Russia to leave them alone they knew that Russia would attack them for those actions. but the president being the retard he is still attacked thinking hey we got nato weapons we can win and what do you know a two-day war.
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news media will go with the flow of nato and the u.s government.
You miss the most important detail: They enhance (being subjective) the flow, they don't just flow with it (being rather objective).
Yet another thing you miss: Both parties have been acting wrong on some issues in this conflict in different ways. But the media is only trying to blame it on the others which can somewhen result in something dangerous. It is way too populist and influential.
Now let this thread rest as i think this will lead to nowhere.
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what Georgia did to civilian was immorally wrong.
Your claim is that it was morally right?
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lol good call yootz error in typin