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Digital Paint Community => Other Stuff => Topic started by: jitspoe on January 03, 2006, 03:03:54 PM
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It was discussed in this thread (http://dpball.com/forums/index.php?topic=1442.0), but I figured I'd make a new one with the prices and all of that:
eVGA 7800GT + mobo + Quake4: $355.69 + $4 shipping
Opteron 144 (64bit, 1.8GHz, 1MB L2 Cache): $149.99 + $8.07
Transparent case: $36.99 + $16 shipping
Thermalright Xp-90 Heatsink, Panaflo fan, and shipping: $40.95
SeaSonic S12-500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply: $124.99 + $6.99 - $25.00
Lite-On DVD Burner ~$40 (already have one)
2x512 (1GB Dual channel) OCZ PC3200, $55 AR
250GB Seagate: $129.99 + $7.99 + $9.66 - $60.00
Total: $901.31
What I actually paid: $501.62 (already had the burner and got the mobo/vid card for Christmas).
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excrement enjoy the 7800 GT + mobo + opteron combo!
I can't decide whether to upgrade my current rig... or buy a laptop...
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A laptop will easily be twice as much. I got one and hardly ever use it, but a friend of mine got one and uses it for lan parties and such, so... *shrug* I guess that doesn't help your decision much, but I'd go for the desktop, personally. Cheaper and easier to upgrade.
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i just upgraded my computer from 64 mg vid to a 120 mg and also doubled my ram from 512 to 1 gig. the vid card i got was a gefprce fx 5500 i know its not the best but i got it for $20 so
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that's a very good deal excalibur ;)
jits: Idk... I have a decent rig right now... I think ill start a new thread asking for advice on my comp situation so that I dont hijack your thread... also be interesting to hear what you guys have to say
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Sweet. My case and CPU came in today.
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Got the memory in, and the power supply should be here later today. Then I'll have to decide if I want to try building it with the stock heatsink, or wait until tomorrow for the better one. :)
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I'm an arctic silver kind of guy. That is... if I can find it. Power supply made it, btw. Heh, I guess they just read the note on my door and delivered it to the office w/o ringing the doorbell, that or I was asleep when they came. I checked the tracking and it was already in my city at like 7am, so when the doorbell rang, I was expecting UPS, but, no, "Exterminators." Kinda threw me.
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i hate ups i worked for them for 2 weeks before i quit. they pay jack for the work you do. and they just toss boxes around.
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Hmm, I probably should have thought about the case more before I bought it, because...
a) It's all acrylic, which means nothing is grounded by contact with the case.
b) You barely have to touch it to scuff it up and leave permanent marks.
c) I have to unscrew like 8 small screws, some of which are different sizes, just to get the side of the case off.
d) I've just started assembling it, but I don't think the motherboard fits. It sits up too high and doesn't align with the holes in the back. I hope I don't have to bring out the dremmel...
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lol- that sucks.
i hate case shopping. i made the mistake of buying a full tower case. the thing is a beast... weights like 40 lbs... loud as hell...
it fits one of three hard drive cages alongside the PSU on the same plane... that's how wide this mofo is... it's a beast! If I keep my desktop when i go off to college i gotta scale back to a mid-tower and some quieter fans...
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i hate ups i worked for them for 2 weeks before i quit. they pay jack for the work you do. and they just toss boxes around.
The employees toss packages around, and don't get paid well for it? I can't seem to figure that one out..
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what do you guys think about those sonys? im thinking about getting one.
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I'll be upgrading soon...
What i have listed so far...
$200.85 AMD Athlon 64 3500+
$80.43 GIGABYTE MB
$157.59 X800GTO 256Meg
$145.22 2 x DDR400 1gig/64x8
$66.95 SB Audigy
$292.52 19" LCD
$134.93 300gig SATA
$67.98 Plextor CDRWDVDRW+_+_+ (the works in one unit)
$166.86 Dragon sumthinorother case (500W)
$138.02 XP Pro
$1451.26 total
will probably get XP from work here for free though.
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Personally I'd stay away from ATI right now. On top of their typical suckiness, they're doing a rush job to compete with nVidia's SLI (crossfire) and doing a terrible job of it. What core are you getting on that AMD? Heh, I'm amazed that Plextors are that cheap now. Not long ago, you'd have to pay like $200.
As for my stuff... I just got the heatsink and hard drive in today, woot! That means I can work on it over the weekend. I didn't think it would all make it in time. This heatsink is a monster. I'm glad I didn't go with the bigger one. It's crazy, though -- if you just touch it, it feels like ice. It is light, which I like. I had a smaller one in my older computer that weighed like 3x's as much.
The case... well, let's just say it's going through surgery right now. I got the dremmel out last night, and to put things simply: the motherboard fits now. :)
I sure hope this all works when I turn it on...
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so i hsould try to fin dsomething less exspensive and jus upgrade it
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Benchmarks mean nothing if your computer locks up all the time because of heat problems and/or bad drivers. Also, crossfire looks like it limits you to 1 video output.
Well, I tried to put my heatsink together. The motherboard mount was easy (the heatsink actually fits on a P4 mount, but includes a mount that fits on an AMD mobo), but when I went to put the fan on, the snap didn't fit. Most fans are like this:
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=*===========*=(cross section, on the side). The heatsink snaps into the screw holes where the stars are. However, the fan I got has the screw holes on the top and bottom encased in solid plastic, like this:
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Time to bust out the dremmel again tonight, I guess. :\
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Got it to fit with some minor surgery. This thing looks cool. I'll post pics later.
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Everything's working well so far. Paintball2 runs at 1000fps, pretty much nonstop, lol. If I do a timerefresh, I can exceed 3000fps in some areas.
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wow
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Amazingly, no problems so far, aside from the drive I tried to use from a friend not working. Hopefully it's the drive, not the SATA ports...
This thing smokes in games, though. I tried Doom3 at ultra settings, 1280x1024, and it never went below 60fps... 'course it stayed at like 63, so I think there's something capping it somewhere. It the console, it'll got to 4000fps sometimes, hah.
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Doom3 at 60fps? Sign me up.
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Doom 3 (and quake 4 incidentally since it uses the same engine) caps game updates at 60/sec, so it caps the FPS at that as well since you'd just be rendering duplicate frames and wasting processing power if you went above 60. It might actually be 63 I'm not sure if thats a bug in the FPS display or they actually capped it at 63 but shrug.
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Carmack should have done what I did. ;) Though it gets pretty convoluted and I'm still working out bugs. :\
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Yea I really don't know why they hardcapped it in the engine, I guess so that people who have amazing rigs and can run the game at amazing framerates don't have any sort of advantage :\ How did you do it in DP?
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I've decoupled the framerate and packet rate, so it only actually sends packets at a specified rate, otherwise it "pretends" to send them, in order to allow you to move between packet sends. It also sends packets immediately upon input (such as key presses), so you wont screw up your jump timing and whatnot.
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Back to the main topic:
Some more goodies just came in. I didn't like the fans that came with the case. They were noisy and had 3 different colored lights. I got a bunch of blue fans instead. I also got this cool looking thing that monitors the temperature and has fan voltage control and stuff. A also voided the warranty on my power supply because I'm modding it to make it transparent.
I don't know why it is, but all the cool looking power supplies are cheap, and all the high-quality ones are bland, and, well, the mod was a buck or two, so I figured "Why not?" Now I just have to get the guts to cut the wires to the power supply fan and solder on a new one...
Also, I decided I'm gonna go all out and get the best gaming mouse: The Razer Copperhead (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826153105). With all the sniping necessary in new games these days, my old MX500 just isn't precise enough.
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Post some pics of your old case please :)
They're always such a treat to see.
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Pros:
Tracking quality
Light
Grip
Shape
Slick feet
Buttons and mouse wheel <- It having buttons- Definitly a pro.
Cons: Side buttons are hard to reach
Durability?
Learning curve <- Mice are so hard to learn how to use...
Price
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Learning curve <- Mice are so hard to learn how to use...
Well, I touch it and it shoots across both screens on my system... Considering it's 5x's as sensitive as a traditional optical mouse, that's a valid concern.
I got the mouse, by the way. I haven't had a chance to play with it much because I've been "tricking out" my new case. ;D
By my old case, do you mean this?
(http://www.planetquake.com/jitspoe/images/hardware/case_rei_3.jpg)
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I must say I'm really impressed with this machine. I'm glad to have an nVidia card again. Not only does everything run fast and look nice, but it's stable. It has yet to crash, even after a good 24 hours of gaming.
It certainly helped me kick arse in the CCGA F.E.A.R. tournament:
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I'm glad to have an nVidia card again.
I can wait until this day returns for me :P
I'm having the worst experience with the Radeon 9550-256MB card I bought to replace my fried Ti4200-128MB. I can no longer achieve a solid 60fps even in PB2 @ 1024x768 without frequent hiccups and if I have firefox or photoshop open and using >70MB RAM(of 768MB) I can expect framerates dipping into 30s most of the time.
This was amplified when I was using Linux as my operating system, and as result I had to switch to WinXP just so that PB2 was playable.
Oh, btw what does CCGA stand for? Is that LAN at the same place DPCON was held or didn't that place close down?
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http://www.carolinagaming.com/game_info.asp
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Or http://www.carolinagaming.com/news.asp -- the game info page is really outdated as they've kinda quit updating it.
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I'm glad to have an nVidia card again.
I can wait until this day returns for me :P
I'm having the worst experience with the Radeon 9550-256MB card I bought to replace my fried Ti4200-128MB. I can no longer achieve a solid 60fps even in PB2 @ 1024x768 without frequent hiccups and if I have firefox or photoshop open and using >70MB RAM(of 768MB) I can expect framerates dipping into 30s most of the time.
This was amplified when I was using Linux as my operating system, and as result I had to switch to WinXP just so that PB2 was playable.
Oh, btw what does CCGA stand for? Is that LAN at the same place DPCON was held or didn't that place close down?
Get a 6600 GT 128mb. Best value card i've ever purchased ($140 these days?) Plus, it's an nVidia -- yeah I'll admit I'm a nVidia fanboy... :P
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I ordered my new PC 2 days ago! Nothing amazing, Athlon 3200+ 1GB RAM, DVD Dual Layer Burner, basic graphics and sound. For £450 thats quite good and compared to my current P3 1Ghx and a measly 256mb RAM that is constantly crashing it will be a lot faster :D I'm looking forward to it :D.
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I ordered my new PC 2 days ago! Nothing amazing, Athlon 3200+ 1GB RAM, DVD Dual Layer Burner, basic graphics and sound. For £450 thats quite good and compared to my current P3 1Ghx and a measly 256mb RAM that is constantly crashing it will be a lot faster :D I'm looking forward to it :D.
Do you know what graphics card specifically?
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In my new or old?
New: on-board 128mb, I don't need a particularly good graphics card, I may upgrade later but at the moment I am not to bothered.
In my current, I'm not sure. N-videa G-force 3 I think. Not sure of the speeds but probably something poor.
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You should put the geforce in your new machine -- probably better than the onboard.
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There's a little problem when he tries to put his onboard video into his old computer though :-\
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Hacksaw. ;)
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Question, the original post by Jitspoe, thats all I would need? Is there anything cheaper I can get that will preform basically just as good. Can you give me the exact specs on the mobo and stuff so I would know what to get, Im going to start saving.
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... Is there anything cheaper I can get that will preform basically just as good. ....
If Jitspoe could have done that he would have silly :p
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Well, new hardware has come out since I purchased mine, so the stuff I got has probably gone down in price.