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Paintball 2: The Game => Paintball 2 Discussion => Topic started by: capo on January 25, 2009, 11:53:57 PM

Title: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: capo on January 25, 2009, 11:53:57 PM
Okay, I was just wondering about the ball speed. Why was it lowered again?

I don't think its right that the ball speed is being lowered without players approval. But what Can you do, right? And no, I'm not complaining so don't jump at me. Just asking questions.

Well, I think we should have a vote to see if the active players like the current ball speed, or if they like the older high setting for the ball speed.

Recently some players have been getting less and less active without any real reason. Perhaps they're not fond of the new ball speed and have given up on trying to relearn some of the lines in the game. Not saying THAT'S the case, but could be one of the reasons, you know?

Kids can just run through lines now and what not. I understand Jitspoe want's to make this game realistic, but is strafe jumping realistic?

I'm Pretty sure there has been post on this before?

Was just wondering if the ball speed will stay the same...Or change again? Thanks in advance.

I'd like active players to vote. No disrespect but I just want to see how the players feel without admins or mods voting on it. That is, if you're active ;).
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: Eiii on January 26, 2009, 12:34:03 AM
I can't say too much on the new ball speed's effect on gameplay-- I really haven't noticed anything, but I don't memorize any lines for maps or anything-- but if you're playing a game that's in alpha, you're going to have to accept that changes are going to be made. Big ones, probably. What happens when, say, a new map format comes along? Then you'd have to learn completely new maps! The horror.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: Spook on January 26, 2009, 01:00:02 AM
I voted new, by now most of the good active players are used to it, and to change it again is going to be horrible.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: wafflez205 on January 26, 2009, 01:49:01 AM
the ball speed is server controlled. Jits only turned down the default speed.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: Cameron on January 26, 2009, 02:00:25 AM
We know that, but its nice to be able to go to servers with the same ball speed, because if 1 group of servers change, then it will be different to others.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: sk89q on January 26, 2009, 03:08:57 AM
Last time I checked, the ball speed resets to jit's default when the map changes.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: KnacK on January 26, 2009, 06:21:46 AM
Also, I believe this was changed a few years ago and I do not believe any server admins have changed the speed.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: MosEz on January 26, 2009, 07:18:36 AM
i didnt even check there was a differecne lol
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: Justinph5 on January 26, 2009, 07:53:13 AM
im sure most don't want it changed again, it would cause more complaining.

I'm not even sure how to vote for this one, since we had to get used to the new one either way, and i wouldn't want it changed again.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: Viper on January 26, 2009, 07:56:12 AM
Old value of ballspeed ?
New value of ballspeed ?
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: KnacK on January 26, 2009, 07:57:56 AM
Reference to change:

http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=11143.0
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: Playah on January 26, 2009, 11:54:18 AM
Definately the new one is the better. The older one was way too fast!
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: Br55HiT on January 26, 2009, 11:54:53 AM
Is the ballspeed in the eR33t match servers different than the pubs?  It seems if I go from superman's pub or any other pub for that matter and into an eR33t match server the speed is different.  I'm gonna try to get a set distance and see where the balls fall in different servers to compare if it is different or not.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: capo on January 26, 2009, 02:04:02 PM
Yea, I don't know.

Not really complaining or nothing. The new ball speed is fine and all.

Just wanted some opinions on it, ya know?

Seems like, when I go on different severs, I have to re-adjust my prediction... If that makes sense to any of you.

Some of you said, it's server side settings, right? Is it possible to make it client side? Or what?
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: blaa on January 26, 2009, 02:04:54 PM
 Client side?

Seriously dude.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: capo on January 26, 2009, 02:06:00 PM
Client side?

Seriously dude.

Hm? I'm just asking questions, lmao.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: skitzo on January 26, 2009, 03:46:10 PM
If it was made client side, everyone with sense would boost it up all the way so as long as you were aiming at them it would hit them. instantly. there wouldn't be any dip, time to avoid, anything.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: Kaos on January 26, 2009, 08:31:52 PM
if its to high all it does is end up bouncing off the guy so that wouldnt really help :X
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: Gamabunta on January 27, 2009, 06:46:14 AM
I'm all for faster balls, was it 300fps? I couldn't get used to lower ball speed last year, now any newbie can just walk across a line from autococker or carbine. In this poll, is new ball speed 285 and old one 300 fps or so?
edit: nvm got it
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: lekky on January 27, 2009, 10:52:42 AM
I stopped playing just after the increase, and just coming back can really tell the difference. (Disclaimer: I may have said something different originally)
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: Tini on January 27, 2009, 11:09:29 AM
AGREED WITH CAPO.
old ball speed just because i can camp agian lmao
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: wafflez205 on January 27, 2009, 12:11:11 PM
Yay just what we need more campers
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: capo on January 27, 2009, 12:16:31 PM
Yay just what we need more campers

Wafflez, Do you even play this game? I'm pretty sure I've never heard of you, or seen you in a match or pub. GG.

If it was made client side, everyone with sense would boost it up all the way so as long as you were aiming at them it would hit them. instantly. there wouldn't be any dip, time to avoid, anything.

Ah, thanks skitzo.
I was thinking that, If it was client side - all servers for the ball speed would be the same or something. I don't know. But now I do [=.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: jitspoe on January 27, 2009, 01:16:43 PM
This poll should really have 3 options.  The initial ball speed was quite slow and required you to aim up about 45 degrees and rain paint down on people.  Then there was the excessively fast ball speed.  Now we have the not-quite-as-excessive ball speed.

I'm all for faster balls, was it 300fps? I couldn't get used to lower ball speed last year, now any newbie can just walk across a line from autococker or carbine. In this poll, is new ball speed 285 and old one 300 fps or so?
edit: nvm got it
For a long time the base ball speed was 300fps.  That meant with different weapon and barrel upgrades, you could get speeds over 400fps.  Now you can still get speeds approaching 400fps, so it's still quite a bit faster than real life (unless you have no barrel upgrades, in which case, it's pretty close to life speed).

Is giving new players a better chance a bad thing?  The game can't grow without fresh blood.  Don't you have better playing strategies than lining newbies, anyway?
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: Gamabunta on January 27, 2009, 01:55:05 PM
Jumping over lines required at least some skill, I just tried to say that now one can just walk across it, what makes lining quite pointless. Also, try to play on a map like theice.bsp with higher ping - chances of hitting anyone are equal to your luck that time. And in my opinion, mentioned new players can be quite surprised when they shoot directly at someone, but before ball reaches the target, target is 10m away.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: Playah on January 27, 2009, 02:40:46 PM
I can only see advantages in lines sometimes not hitting the victim. Because then people actually have be skilled to get that kill.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: T3RR0R15T on January 27, 2009, 03:32:18 PM
Don't you have better playing strategies than lining newbies, anyway?
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Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: Eiii on January 27, 2009, 05:04:04 PM
And in my opinion, mentioned new players can be quite surprised when they shoot directly at someone, but before ball reaches the target, target is 10m away.

They also might be surprised when they see a more experienced player jumping around about four times faster then they can move. This isn't instagib.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: Gamabunta on January 27, 2009, 05:45:49 PM
Good point you have, I've got to agree. But this game is already way unrealistic, so why care about newbies, if they will die anyway? And then again, it's a poll, so I vote for old ball speed because I liked it more than current one.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: wafflez205 on January 28, 2009, 02:10:14 AM
Wafflez, Do you even play this game? I'm pretty sure I've never heard of you, or seen you in a match or pub. GG.

Used to play alot but my computer is broken and is currently being fixed ( just waiting on more ram) and I completly agree with jits.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: lekky on January 28, 2009, 05:02:17 AM
I thought we already came to the conclusion that this isn't a sim anyway, so who cares if the ball speed is faster than in real life! I hate the loop that has to be put on shots now to send the ball further.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: Playah on January 28, 2009, 07:35:14 AM
Oh you old rusty boon, you...
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: zimtstern on January 28, 2009, 09:08:55 AM
I like the not-quite-as-excessive ball speed.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: m7feettall on January 29, 2009, 03:42:58 AM

For a long time the base ball speed was 300fps. 

A long time in which the people who played regularly trained their reflexes to that speed, and learned the areas on that map keyed to that speed.

That was the reason it was a big issue--the long time it was at that speed before suddenly being changed.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: eradicator on January 29, 2009, 05:19:38 PM
It needs to be changed back.
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: Ranger on December 19, 2009, 09:24:53 AM
I agree with gamabunta
Title: Re: Ball speed... New or old?
Post by: Tupac(Chalk) on November 28, 2011, 08:31:58 PM
alright so check it. uh uh

change the ball speed back yo

where i live the bullets aint slow

cant even walk down the street

without hearin pop pop

all i hear is sirens

yo will the violence ever stop

i could be trainin for the street when i play dp

but the ball speed is slower than it really should ever be.

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change the ball speed back son.