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Paintball 2: The Game => Help and Support => Topic started by: LittleAce94 on March 29, 2010, 04:13:58 PM
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Ok, so I have an ASUS netbook (no gaming rig i know, but the specs are all double the requirement) that I use at home. I found dp and it worked great with xp. Then i "upgraded" to windows 7... Most people get that stupid "opengl" graphics error which I somehow got around. The game will run, but it's incredibly jerky/laggy/slow. I know it's not the hardware because it ran flawlessly with xp. Anyone have any clue what i could do differently?
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video card driver / and or cpu usage is at max
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Cpu usage is good and it should be the same driver. Im using an intel 945 express chipset. Should i reinstall the drivers?
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go to control panel in there is a tab in the top bar select view by : large icons, then select device manager. once you double click it do you have any yellow question marks in any of the tabs?
also please give the notebook model number.
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Nope. Ans sorry its an asus 1000HE. Upgraded to 2gb of ram
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http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx
did you get your drivers fron this website?
enter your model number in the search bar in the left then after selecting your computer select Win 7 on the os tab. download the chipset and vga drivers and install them see if that will work.
if your looking in the general tab its >Eee Family > Eee PC > 1000HE
also what i found helps is start the game then ctrl alt delete , select task manager, go to processes find paitnball2 and set the priority to high. i still think the cpu load is to high for it to handle.
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What's your fps like? And netgraph?
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vLaD: I got the drivers. I know what im doing as far as that goes. Only thing different is i had to update the bios for windows 7. Ill have to check what the cpu usage is but like i said xp ran it fine. With wmp limewire skype and whatever else running in the background. But ive closed all unnecessary stuff and it still lags using 7.
And I'll get back to you and justin on the specs.
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it because Windows 7 needs A LOT more power then XP (power meaning RAM, and CPU etc...) . I have windows 7 right now, and so far i don't really like it. I kinda wish i had XP back.
This is the requirements for windows 7:
1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)
16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver
This is XP:
Pentium 233-megahertz (MHz) processor or faster (300 MHz is recommended)
At least 64 megabytes (MB) of RAM (128 MB is recommended)
At least 1.5 gigabytes (GB) of available space on the hard disk
CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive
Keyboard and a Microsoft Mouse or some other compatible pointing device
Video adapter and monitor with Super VGA (800 x 600)or higher resolution
Sound card
Speakers or headphones
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Here are the specs on my netbook:
Atom processor (1.66 GHz)
2 gb ram
160 gb hdd
directx 11 graphics card
I know that windows 7 puts more of a strain on the processor, but it shouldnt be enough to kill a low-power game like this should it?
Oh and im using 32 bit.
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hm, thats weird. Did you buy the windows 7 disk? or did you find it online? If you bought it take it to a computer place and get them to check it out. (Best Buy, Future shop..etc) Now if you found it online, i'm betting that it must be missing some files or something like that, but i'm no computer wiz.
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No we ordered it but its a genuine copy. And vLaD i just had task manager in the background and it stayed at a solid 1gb memory usage and it ranged from about 60-75% cpu usage. Occasionally it would spike, but for whatever reason it did it when the game was running like it should be. Its fine if its just me but the instant someone comes about it slows down. In a roomful i cant even turn around fast enough without getting killed 20 times.
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it is probably a dual core and 60-75% could say one side is maxed and the other side is not.
dp only uses 1 core so when you check your cpu usage under the performance tab and see if one side is all the way up. if it is then set the priority.
its the processor or video card.
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also try this go to task manager click new task. type in msconfig. hit enter select selective startup. and uncheck load start up items. close select never show again and restart. that will kill most of the pointless processes.
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Im not saying youre wrong, im just wondering why theres so much of a drastic difference between 7 and xps performance.
And ill think ill just go with this solution: put xp on an external hard drive.
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I'm believing that it should be the video card, that's why I wanted to see the fps vs netgraph to rule out comp vs. internet also.
Since you have windows 7 now, look at your windows experience index in the computer properties and tell what your gaming graphics sub-score is. If anything, try changing the theme to windows 7 basic while playing, to get rid of a lot of graphic intensive things.
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Justin - All the downloads for netgraph couldnt be found and i forgot about the fps. But i normally play fullscreen so the graphic interface shouldnt matter should it? But as for internet that wouldnt be a good judge right now because like every server i got on was lagging pretty bad (on everyones part)
Oh, and experience index is 2.0.
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You do realize XP is directx 9 and Win7 is directx 10 and 11. Your video card probably can't handle directx 10. I'm sure there is a way to force DX9, but I'm not sure exactly how to do it.
Did you happen to change your screen resolution when you installed Windows 7? If you increased it you could see a drop in video performance.
@battle - How can you not like Windows 7? It's has all the bells and whistles like Vista, only runs like XP. It does require more powerful computers to run it, but if your computer can handle it, it runs like a beast.
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windows 7 can take directx9 it is only saying that windows 7 is compatible with directX 10 and 11 and xp is not.
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Yes Windows 7 can use directx9, but it is set by default to use 10 or higher. His netbook probably can't handle that.
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hmm doubt that will be the case. you can always change the color scheme to basic as justin said that will improve his fps.
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Yes the Windows Areo themes are based in DirectX 10. The basic are probably DirectX 9.
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LittleAce, get the desktop gadget 'GPU Observer' and dock it. In the options you can choose to show the specs of your GPU clocks and loads. I suggest you use this next time when trying dp2 to see if it's your GPU maxing out.
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LittleAce94
you will need scores like in the screen shot below to have
a chance at running dp without any sort of lag whatsoever.
hearing about your 2.1 score, i'd say its time to do one of
two things, upgrade your hard ware, downgrade your os.
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c42/jotos_/roflcopter.jpg)
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one thing that pisses me off about windows rating is that it does not calculate my hard drives properly i have set up striped raid and it calculates it at 5.9. benchmarked it shows twice the performance but on windows nothing.
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my specs :[ ill improve them. i think it don't go higher than 7.9
i think its lying my cpu is OC to 3.6
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well, i run everything stock, vlad as for the hard drive index
have a gander at this.
http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/01/19/engineering-the-windows-7-windows-experience-index.aspx
i run win7 64bit ultimate off a scsi320 74gb 10k hdd, yet i still
rate at 5.5, quaint.
one other thing i just checked out, when i run dp, all four
cores are doing work evenly. nifty eh? ;D
LittleAce94
you can do what you wish disabling this and that in windows7
to make it "run" better. but trust me, if you don't have at least
3gb of ram for that 32bit version, you're not going to enjoy
any speed that won't be robbed by something else.
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My HD score has been stuck at the same 5.9 also vlad.
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So I need to roll back to directx9? I did research and i actually have a gma 950, but it supports directx 9. Apparently it can run 10-11, but its made for 9. And if i do roll back the drivers, with it affect 7s performance?
And everyone else: I know i am on a netbook, and its by no means a powerhouse. But dp did work with windows xp. It worked great.
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win7 > all ^_^ lock it ... =D
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@battle - How can you not like Windows 7? It's has all the bells and whistles like Vista, only runs like XP. It does require more powerful computers to run it, but if your computer can handle it, it runs like a beast.
I just don't like it yet because i just got it a week or 2 ago and i'm so used to XP. And my computer can handle it, its almost top of the line. =]
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I've given up on Windows 7 for now. Trying my luck with linux. Mint will run the game but it will give out too easily. Any stronger distros that would take advantage of the hardware?
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do not change to linux becouse pb isnt working on it!
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I figured that out lol I got the same problem everyone else has with the running then randomly crashing. But it crashes around the same point that the windows version lags. I took some netgraph screenshots buuuut my screenshot directory isn't there. Anyone know where it went?