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Fairness Enforcement => Issues for Committee Review => Topic started by: Bix on May 08, 2011, 11:48:07 PM
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First I am just going to lay out a few facts.
#1 [20:21] <@dystro> [18:52:39] <fl1p> <chalk> i dont plan on staying
[20:21] <@dystro> [18:52:39] <fl1p> <fl1p> bad manners
[20:21] <@dystro> [18:52:39] <fl1p> <chalk> it was more for me
[20:21] <@dystro> [18:52:39] <fl1p> <chalk> watching dystro get mad :(
#2 The person who "revived" the clan didn't even bother to stay in.
#3 The original 3iob (dystro myself and jigsaw) never intended for some idiots to revive the clan without us knowing.
#4 They don't even have the real #team_3iob IRC channel.
It seems that Tini, who was a member for 3iob for just a few weeks, decided to come back and revive 3iob just to piss off the original members then return back to silence. These children have no right to "revive" the clan.
I don't really want to rant too much. All I want is for Jitspoe to remove these children from 3iob as they have no right to it. That is all. Thanks
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Hey female dog quit whining, looks like you care way to much for this game or else you would leave it alone. It's a team shut up about it, go cry somewhere else. No one cares.
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that's not even "navyseal" just some kid with one post who's realizing we're exposing their immaturity.
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how much you wana bet its navy. and if we did it to piss you off wouldnt we of actually made a team and made a new chan and everything... and we would of accepted a whole bunch of pub stars.. we are actually making a team so QQ.
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how much you wana bet its navy. and if we did it to piss you off wouldnt we of actually made a team and made a new chan and everything... and we would of accepted a whole bunch of pub stars.. we are actually making a team so QQ.
LESS QQ MORE PEW PEW... as the dp gods (eR33t) would say.
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that's not even "navyseal" just some kid with one post who's realizing we're exposing their immaturity.
actually that is navyseal evading his forum ban.
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To my knowledge, a person can only revive a clan if they were a leader before they left. So when you guys (dystro, bix, etc) were in the 'real' [3iob], the only way someone like TiNi could revive the clan is if he was a leader back when he was in [3iob].
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as i recall. jigsaw was the last leader of 3iob. before he went to CC. so it doesn't seem irrelevant that tini had gave them the clan would be a factor if the last person with owner ship can do that.
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actually that is navyseal evading his forum ban.
LOL CAUGHT!
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To my knowledge, a person can only revive a clan if they were a leader before they left. So when you guys (dystro, bix, etc) were in the 'real' [3iob], the only way someone like TiNi could revive the clan is if he was a leader back when he was in [3iob].
we used to make almost everyone a leader not knowing this could happen, which is why this happened, they realized that and took it as an advantage. would we have done that knowing this was a possibility -- no chance in hell. not all of us have been in 40+ clans and know the full extensive of how login works with that.
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I was sent to make a comment on this rage thread.
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According to CNN, 3iob vastly improved in those 2 weeks tini was there. /thread
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According to CNN, 3iob vastly improved in those 2 weeks tini was there. /thread
^ True words spoken from JBrown
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^ True words spoken from JBrown
MrGz0r says it's past your bedtime.
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MrGz0r says it's past your bedtime.
whose MrGz0r??
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Not taking sides cause I really don't care what happens either way, but this type of topic has been raised many times and the only response it gets is: Watch who you put leader. It was a dead team and former members revived it. Sure, not the originals or potentially the 'ideal' people in your eyes, but they had leadership and revived it.
The thing I found odd (since at the start I assumed it wouldve been to just annoy CC members) is that they actually are running a team, not just letting anyone in to ruin the name.
But basically, it was a dead team that none of you had any intention of reviving, somebody else with leadership revived it. I don't get how it could be tiNi, since I'm the only other leader of Silence and I didn't accept him back. Are you sure CheMiCaL didn't have leadership from his time in 3iob?
So, as previous events show this SHOULD be all you get: Be more responsible with who you give leadership to! ---- What does them owning a different channel has to do with anything? Not like any of you guys idle #team_3iob on IRC, but there were probably a few randoms in it not allowing them to reg the channel.
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1. Why do you care about a team that was dead before?
2. If you care that much about that clan, why didn't you keep it active?
3. If you care even a lot about that clan, why did you leave it in the first place?
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soooo this really isn't an issue the committee can or needs to do anything about. moving thread.
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yup that's what I thought
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Clan hijacking does happen quite a bit. As of now there is no true rule against it so you probably should have been more careful in the first place. I dont know why you would make everybody a leader though. that kind of seems like a stupid idea but maybe that is just me. Oh and have you asked them nicely to give them back your old clan or did you just rage onto the forums about it?
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There's no such thing as clan hijacking.
Teams give leadership to the wrong person ALL the team who ruins the team and the only response is: Watch who you give leadership to. And that situation just mentioned is killing a live and active team.
This situation at hand is a team that is dead and had no intentions of being revived by the originals as they found a new team they were happy with, got revived by somebody else who had leadership. It's happened to so many people and nothing has/can be done about it. That's really all there is to it.
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There's no such thing as clan hijacking.
This. If you really have a problem with them using your former clan name, I'd suggest to get in touch with those people.
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Get over it Bix, these kids will change their clan in a few weeks anyway.
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how about you take a wild guess on how that went. and..... starz does the same thing with making every member they have a leader. they changed it tho
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But wait, when Olbaid and I start the new 'Super Awesome Mega Elite Winning Clan That Has A Lot Of Fun' clan, where would they have to turn to after that?
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3 inches of girth is a better clan name anyways, use it
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First off, I don't know why this thread was moved to here. It is an issue for the committee and that is why i made the thread there.
Second, I still doubt that many of you idiots can read. If people would read my original post then they would have answered half the questions they asked.
I had no intention of posting on this thread again as I knew it would just get blown up with ignorant posts. Which it did. Tini "revived" the clan just to pass it off to his friends then leave again. No one in the current clan has any right to revive it. That is the biggest issue I have with the whole situation. I don't care whether or not these kids invite newbies to the clan. They have no right to take the name and abuse the situation regardless of their intent. They simple used a loophole in the system to gain control of the clan and aggravate the original members. This can easily be seen through the logs of chalk.
Yes, many of you are right. The original members have no intent of reviving the clan at this point. We simply do not want people ruining what we made.
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Question is what are you trying to do when you know nothing will happen. I do understand you and your point but all you will get is sympathy. When you have putted Tini as leader, you probably didn't expect it to blow back to your face but that's why dplogin has an option who will be a leader and who will be a member. You know and understand this as well as you understand that nothing will happen from this thread becuase by giving a leader status you put your trust to that person that he/she won't do anything bad to a clan, not now, not in the future.
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First of all, are you sure it was Tini who revived it? Because I/we are pretty sure it was chemical and not tini. However.
I do not see why this is a problem committee has to care about. None rules are violated here. As it has been said before, you should not give leadership to everyone.
Furthermore I cannot understand why you care about a dead team so much but since you do you should talk to the new leaders and try to convince them to create another new team.
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why do you care about such a newb clan?
loloollol delphi cares much now.. LOLOL RAWR!1!!1
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http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=22312.new#new
Whoever was a leader has rights to revive. Whoever set the person as a leader should be more careful. I wouldn't want this to happen to me and a clan I made, so I feel for you. If you had wanted the leadership back for you to use, I'm sure we would be able to help.
I wouldn't worry about it though. I doubt they will stay in the clan long, look at the member's clan histories.
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tini had nothing to do with it i revived it becuase when i was in 3iob someone made me a leader i guess and when i checked i had leadership so gg.
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yawn.. Vanity/chemical you were NEVER in 3iob, we wouldn't recruit someone we just caught aimbotting, remember that? that's when you first got banned for it. Anyways, bix didn't post the whole irc log:
[18:51:17] <fl1p> <chalk> myers and > chemical were trying to find a new clan
[18:51:17] <fl1p> <chalk> theyre good friends with tini
[18:51:17] <fl1p> <chalk> tini was a leader a long time ago
[18:52:38] <fl1p> <fl1p> you should leave that shyte
[18:52:39] <fl1p> <chalk> i dont plan on staying
[18:52:39] <fl1p> <fl1p> bad manners
[18:52:39] <fl1p> <chalk> it was more for me
[18:52:39] <fl1p> <chalk> watching dystro get mad :(
There you go, chalk outright admitting tini was the one that revived it and not chemical seeing as he was NEVER in the clan. So quit pretending it was you, clown.
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How does my name get entered into all of this? I get pm'd by people saying what I did was childish, and now I'm in chalk's logs. I did nothing folks, that is all.
And my posts in this thread are just based off what SHOULD happen based off past situations (which is nothing) , either way I do not care what should happen. Teams probably wouldn't revive old teams at all if they had the ability to choose a nice tag that wasnt taken by some team who nobody has ever seen and had 2 members ever in it. (Note to 3iob members, do not say 'IF YOU DONT CLANHOP SO OFTEN YOU WOULDNT NEED TAGS!!' cause this topic is about a clan you left and don't want revived. )
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I learned chemical was in 3iob after fl1p pmed me asking how we got a hold of 3iob, so I assumed it was tini. I don't know who revived it , but if you think I'm a reliable source, I'm honored :). We like the clan , we're not trying to ruin it, dystro getting upset is a bonus. If I only wanted to see him get mad, I would just match him...
Dystro/Bix are assuming that I know Myers and Tini well. I really don't talk to them enough for them to trust me. Flip asked me what happened and I told him what I thought at the time .
edited :(
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these kids will change their clan in a few weeks anyway.
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before after
lol which is it chalk?
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after haha my bad.
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actually i was in 3iob. maybe you didn't know it.
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Get over it Bix, these kids will change their clan in a few weeks anyway.
Get over it Bix, these kids will change their clan in a few weeks anyway.
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MOFO, you have more former teams then anyone currently on the 3iob roster, infact you have more formers then just about anyone whoever played this game. (Probably more then Hyphy too) so you're one to talk. I understand Rick and Zimtstern's reasoning when they say that, since look at their formers, they do not switch names/teams often at all. But this thread doesn't involve you at all and your posts are always useless so please refrain posting until you get something slightly useful to say. Thanks b!
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Anyone care to tell the truth? I'm sure the "crew" already knows due to their friends in the committee but we got some cool info from my BOSS lately.
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MOFO, you have more former teams then anyone currently on the 3iob roster, infact you have more formers then just about anyone whoever played this game. (Probably more then Hyphy too) so you're one to talk. I understand Rick and Zimtstern's reasoning when they say that, since look at their formers, they do not switch names/teams often at all. But this thread doesn't involve you at all and your posts are always useless so please refrain posting until you get something slightly useful to say. Thanks b!
You're Cute
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Anyone care to tell the truth? I'm sure the "crew" already knows due to their friends in the committee but we got some cool info from my BOSS lately.
If you got the info from the 'BOSS' aka Jitspoe, then you don't need their truth. And if that's in some way a reference towards me (the not telling the truth part), I already said I don't know what happened, and I do not really care what happens. I was just tossing my opinion out on the situation. Maybe you should try to contact tiNi, he's on IRC daily, instead of pm'ing me telling me I know when I don't. I could probably find out very easily, but I just haven't bothered.
The only 'cool' information you could've found is if CheMiCaL restarted the team, or tiNi, or somebody else, because there's really no other possible information that affects this.
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On a side note, this feature could be useful in situations such as these:
http://dplogin.com/dplogin/featurevote/feature.php?id=10045
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OKAY OKAY, here's the truth:
CheMiCaL was parting from [ s ] and making a team to give [ s ] more competition to play against. Since, the clan scene is pretty weak right now. They wanted to revive Insane, but I refused to give them leadership of that, (since there's no good available tags anymore, they were only looking at former teams) , so then when they found out TiNi had leadership of 3iob they got him to accept CheMiCaL and he ran the team. Then, [CC] found out and they were not pleased (as seen from this thread). The committee got into this, and the votes (as of last night) were No Action: 6 -- Remove new members: 0 ------ So really nothing was going to happen. But then a smart intelligent man, Fl1p, got the idea of using his connections with chalk (potential bribing involved), to get himself put as leader where he then kicked all the members from the clan.
So, a team got leadership from somebody who didn't stick in the team, and ran a team. Problem: The guy who had leadership didn't stick around, and he gave it away. (If you call that a problem, I could give leadership to somebody else and leave my team and no1 would care...) But I guess since they weren't the originals and CC complained till something got done...
Then, a guy gets leadership of the team and kicks everyone leaving himself the only leader. Problem: Isn't this clan-hijacking at it's finest? Pretty sure he wasn't a part of 3iob either? And that's outside of committee's boundaries, they just look into multiple accounts.
SOOO CheMiCaL should get the team back, problem solved. L!o!Lo1L!o1L!ol!O!l!O!L jk!L1!L!!!!!111!! Everything is back to normal, no more need to rage ladies and gentlemen. To be honest, they were planning on leaving it anyways, (or letting Dystro or somebody rejoin it to kick them so he could go back to CC without fear of them reviving it.) I was pretty shocked when Chem told me that, but anyways, I do think [CC] should unban them from their channel and give them another chance to be able to use servers since everything is fixed. They were all planning to do it. That is all. /thread
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no bribing involved.
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bribing involved
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Stop saying [CC], kthx.
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Jigsaw recently started playing again, wasnt it him? he started it any way so there should be no dispute
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That is pretty funny. I bribed chalk. With what exactly Myers? Was I going to give him super secret committee info? lol. What I don't get is if I bribed chalk to get the team why would you pm me claiming it was all your idea for him to give it to me? Seriously you stoop this low?
Just for the record. I ran 3iob-t. So technically I was a member. So according to your posts here I have done nothing wrong. I just took possession of a team I was once a part of and it's not my fault someone put me as leader, giving me the ability to kick all of them. How immature. Whoops. Guess they should have made better judgement as to who they put as leader.
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^ for 1, I said 'potential brides' -- which is unlikely, but the way Chalk said to me that by doing this he gets unbanned from CC servers, and to keep his [ x ] server admin, I just assumed there were bribes with that.
I did not pm you saying it was my idea to give it to you, I explained the truth of the story :) Since really I was just aware of what happened, all I did was accept tiNi back to Silence and wanted my name not involved so I just denied it. But either way the teams back everything is fine.
You running 3iob-t doesn't mean you were part of the team. That lasted what, a week? But that is irrelevant to the situation, you got leadership and they shouldve had better judgment of who they put leader. It's true, and thats why I was joking (notice the LOL!OL!O!L!OL! JK!!!! in previous post) when I commented on it. I was actually pretty impressed that you put this much effort (questioning everyone) on this topic, and then when you figured out the committee wouldn't of done anything you took matters into your own hands and got the job done. Congrats. It shows people do still enjoy the game and will work hard to try to keep it good, and improve on it. Hopefully you just stay consistent when it's not about the team you look up to, even if you personally dislike the person it's for.
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fl1p has the same authority in x as me since hes not actually in the clan.
My admin in x was never threatened.
I assumed I would get unbanned from cc servers.
I was the one who came to flip and asked if he wanted me to give the clan back. I would've done it earlier if I had leader the whole time.
I was not trying to defend myself, I was coming up with random reasons so that you would shut up.
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Just to clear things up: fl1p did not do that on behalf of the whole committee (might already be obvious since somehow information leaked...).
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I was the one who came to flip and asked if he wanted me to give the clan back. I would've done it earlier if I had leader the whole time.
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Just to clear things up: fl1p did not do that on behalf of the whole committee (might already be obvious since somehow information leaked...).
That is correct. I did this with my own conniving. I played with what tools I had in order to make the situation right. It is that simple. The committee took no action in this. I did this on behalf of a group of individuals that have have always been truthful and open to myself. They also didn't know this was going to happen but I told them as soon as I got the team back. If anyone has a problem with me playing their game and winning put it on me, not the committee or the creators of 3iob.
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Here I originally wrote a reply to Myers but have since decided to let this matter drop after my previous post. I will now sit and wait to see what comes of my actions. The thread will be locked since the matter is at an end.