Digital Paint Discussion Board
Fairness Enforcement => Cheater Reports and Bans => Topic started by: MarawaNa on December 02, 2011, 06:10:21 PM
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Whats'upp i thought it was maybe about time to ask the question but what happened to Jitspoe relooking over that group of players who all cheated/reported themselves this past summer? After seeing the decline in activity, I think it's a good time to question why it's taken so long... I realize unbanning cheaters may not be a priority to Jitspoe, but considering he gave an unfair amount of time (based off the average ban lengths, you cannot argue that fact). It becomes a personal issue to disagree, which means you have a skewed opinion, its only just for him to relook it.
They've served about 120-130 days, when most of them are 1st/2nd offenders for cheating... and clearly aren't all distributors... so why do they all get a 3 year ban? The way you work the ban lengths is terrible, simply because by the time their bans are up, do you really expect them to come back and play? yeah they hacked, but i bet most of them were just curious what hacks actually looked like to see through the perspective of DaRkNeSS or Zaltekk, who are completely different. If you're asking me, your killing your own game, i say you reduce ban lengths (by this i mean dont double ban times, giving people 3 years ban time is stupid, i mean even nick123 is going to come back as a mature adult by this stage!)
From what I've heard (which may not be completely valid) - Jaypeak was the distributor - so why do they all have equal ban times to the distributors? If you ask me i think this is just crazy..
There's been many players who have had 3+ offences, still in this community today because they had 128 or 256 as the most they ever had. To kick out people on their 1st/2nd offence is ridiculous.
Discuss.
- MarawaNa
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Yo Jitspoe, don't ban people for 1024 days after the 2nd ban ok?
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ye the bans need to be relooked at, they don't deserve 1024 for what they did... and if you're going to ban people on their 1st/2nd/3rd offences for 3yrs, then do it to everyone, dont pick n choose. These bans need to be relooked at.
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I say myers distributed. How can they prove different? oh by giving jaypeak, the kid who doesn't even like this game, the blame.
keep the bans, this wasn't like they were hacking and trying to get away with it. In this case it was people who said this was our last hurrah and that they would go out by hacking all together and go play some other game.
apparently they shoulda thought about it first.
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They are a disease. Don't unban them.
edit: I'm talking about all of the people that had the intent to "kill the game"
They should remain banned for 1024 days in my opinion. Maybe we can look at the others.
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Keep it :P
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Foxhound. I don't know where you got any of that bs from. None of the people who hacked ever talked you to you, let alone liked you, so I don't know what made you think it was our "last hurrah". We played other games BECAUSE we got banned idiot.
So according to you hacking and trying to get away with it is ok? and people who do that deserve 32/64 day bans? People who realize they wont have time for the game and cheat for some fun time openly, and report themselves deserve 1024?
I say myers distributed.
Yea, because that means sooooo much.
The only ones who don't want them unbanned are people who dont match/barely play. (and CC who just hates losing)
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all yall keep sippin on dat haterade
ik ur afraid of gettin raped
but its closest ull get to gettin laid
trust me. ive seen all the demos
if this was real life. man youd be outside the limo
CC.why dont you want him to remove the ban
open ur frikin eyes. there's a major hacker in ur clan
your payin for a server when the clan count is 3
whatve you got lose.cmon the game is free...
the game is dying. it could go anyday
stop takin these players for granted.
Or they might not choose to stay
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Oh and Foxhound, Throwing random assumptions seems more childish, harder to take your post seriously. I heard Cyntex distributed, and it was Jaypeak who originally gave them to him - but that's just what I heard. Nobody is just putting the blame on jaypeak...
So fox, is hacking to pretend to be good better than hacking to have fun with a few friends? The first deserves 32/63 and second deserves 1024? makes sense.....?
They are a disease. Don't unban them.
How are they a disease? There's been many 'group hacking' sessions before - in fact, most hacking happens in groups. (Ij spiked models, paf/spartax COD cheat, rick/cusoman modded walls etc...) - Why is this group the only disease?
Keep it :P
Not trying to downgrade your opinion, but you don't play often... nor are into the matching scene, so I'm curious why you say keep it, please elaborate and back up your option? You believe 1st/2nd offenders deserve 1024 days? Even jitspoe admitted he'd review the bans after he got the info, so that means even he disagrees with the ban lengths, I'm just trying to remind him to review it, its been a long time...
- MarawaNa
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I say myers distributed. How can they prove different? oh by giving jaypeak, the kid who doesn't even like this game, the blame.
keep the bans, this wasn't like they were hacking and trying to get away with it. In this case it was people who said this was our last hurrah and that they would go out by hacking all together and go play some other game.
apparently they shoulda thought about it first.
When people speak and have no clue of what they're saying, that's the result. Bullshizzle.
I won't comment on who distributed or not because I already told jits every thing he needed to know, but I guarantee it wasn't MyeRs. Let me get this straight, so you say if we were hacking and trying to get away with it we deserved to be unbanned? Sounds logic!
Most of us reported ourselves after a week of hacking, few/none people suspected and it was undetected, proof of that are the people that distributed had been using it for months, and only got caught after we gave our informations up, so yes, we could actually be quite a role model, as far as it comes to hackers because we admitted :)
Yes, we hacked. Most of us have already served their supposed bantimes, and more, get on with it, while some people have been unbanned and did more than us...
@Mara: Jitspoe has already told me he'd look into my case and he would get to reviewing the bans whenever he had the time to, but obviously his priority is the game right now. He might do the same for others, who knows...
*Idias_ wonders what Chalk had to do to be unbanned ::)
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Marawana, several things. Superman didn't say only that group was a disease, he simply they that they were a disease.
I'm sure one of the things Jitspoe's taking into account is the guilt by association principle. A few members of the group seem to have pissed him off pretty bad, so he's probably pissed at all of them.
Also, they have no right to complain about ban time. If they didn't hack they wouldn't be banned any ways.
There were still several active clans at the time of the ban with enough people to have matches every day. The loss of any US match servers killed the game more than the bans, which Superman was kind enough to host a serv close enough for us to use with out getting too high of a ping.
Furthermore, you tell Foxhound not to make assumptions, yet you made them your self. You "heard" jaypeak distributed and claim that he should have the highest ban time for this. You made the assumption that what you "heard" was absolute truth. Yet, you later contradicted yourself in the latest post by saying Cyntex distributed the hack he got from Jaypeak, which would really make Cyntex more to blame because from what you said you "heard" he gave them to more people than Jaypeak.
Also, you have bashed several Dp players for not being "active" and claim that they're opinion shouldn't matter. Following that same logic, anyone that's banned shouldn't have a say either because they cant be a part of the match scene right now (provided that the active clans aren't dumb enough to play on private servers.)
Next, you claim that Jitspoe "admitted" he'd review the bans after he got the info, but from your statement it seems that he didn't specify how long after, or that there would be action because of the results from reviewing them.
In summation, don't go around flaming other players or former players for voicing their opinion on a topic, when they have every right to do so just because they oppose your position on the topic at hand. If you want to discuss a topic, you have to be able to take criticism and opposing views into consideration. This is why no one is taking you seriously, and frankly, no one should until you learn that.
I can't express these next statements enough.
THIS IS A FREE GAME THAT JITSPOE RUNS. YOU ARE SUBJECT TO HIS WILL, WHATEVER HIS WILL MAY BE. DON'T LIKE IT? TOO BAD, MAKE YOUR OWN GAME.
If you don't like how he's handling a situation, there really is nothing that you can do about it except voice your opinion as long as he allows you to.
YOU'RE POSTING ON HIS BOARD, YOU CAN ONLY CORRESPOND ON THIS BOARD BECAUSE HE ALLOWS YOU TO.
If you think he's still being unfair, I don't believe you have the mental capacity to truly understand why it is fair.
REVIEWING THE BANS OR DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THEM WILL INVOLVE HIS FREE TIME.
I realize some of you haven't entered your adult life yet. Free time is precious. Very very precious. You're lucky that you get to enjoy a game at any point in time due to him sacrificing his free time for the enjoyment of others.
I know I've bashed him/the committee before, but it was (childishly) for the sake of angering certain unnamed people, not that my comments at the time were really my opinion.
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@Likeabawss
The rolemodels should be people that never hacked, not hackers that admitted it.
No one suspected it? Untrue, some of us just didn't do anything about suspicions.
I see that you'd like to be unbanned. Personally, I hope you don't.
Won't comment on who distributed? Your decision, but withholding information from the community won't make them have a better opinion of you.
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Marawana, several things. Superman didn't say only that group was a disease, he simply they that they were a disease.
firstly that doesnt make sense, but because im not dumb i know what you mean
In summation, don't go around flaming other players or former players for voicing their opinion on a topic, when they have every right to do so just because they oppose your position on the topic at hand. If you want to discuss a topic, you have to be able to take criticism and opposing views into consideration. This is why no one is taking you seriously, and frankly, no one should until you learn that.
Can you explain how im flaming other players? and also how i cant take criticism into consideration? Talking about criticism, why are you taking points out on me only? im not the only one thats had my say on this post. And if nobody's taking this post seriously, why has there been more activity in this post than the past month.. I would say the majority of people who currently play realise that the game is dying too much.
Can i just ask seriously, how did chalk actually get his ban reduced? you cant say he 'wasn't' all part of it, if jitspoes treating him like that, i say he treats them all like that.
- MarawaNa
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Sorry, I was interrupted several times during the preparation of the post. Though I directed a lot of the content toward you, i really wanted to say it to a lot of people.
Flaming? You did say, "spainter, your views dont count in the post, sorrrayyy"
Perhaps this was an inside joke that I was aware of.
You're right, some people are taking you seriously. I used the wrong term.
I should've mentioned this too.
<GoNAsS> and i'm not disputing fairness, its not fair at all. but its also not fair for people to demand that jitspoe sacrifices his free time so that they can play a game that they abused
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@Likeabawss
The rolemodels should be people that never hacked, not hackers that admitted it.
No one suspected it? Untrue, some of us just didn't do anything about suspicions.
I see that you'd like to be unbanned. Personally, I hope you don't.
Won't comment on who distributed? Your decision, but withholding information from the community won't make them have a better opinion of you.
Try reading everything...
I said a role model, and I even put the main part in bold, as far as it comes to hackers. Which means, in case you didn't understand, that among the dirty, filthy hackers, we actually did a decent thing and admitted... I've never said I wasn't guilty or anything, and I knew I was gonna be banned, just didn't see the 3 years coming...
Another thing I said is "I won't comment on who distributed or not because I already told jits every thing he needed to know" - The community doesn't really have to have a good opinion of me, some people know me and want me back, some don't care, jitspoe is still the one that makes the choice, regardless of others' opinions... Also everyone keeps making wrong assumption about the distributors even though it's been said who it was multiple times.
Also, it was a 1 time offence that was hardly "harmfull" in comparison to others who got unbanned for far more than I did, not trying to excuse myself for what I did, far from it, just trying to say the bantime is unfair... Jitspoe said he would REVIEW it and I will accept whatever the outcome is, if he choose not to unban me, fine...
And at last, MarawaNa didn't flame anyone's opinion, he just told T3RR0R15T that since he wasn't an active member of the matching community he didn't really feel the effect of the lack of people.
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I know what you meant, but you didn't understand me. They don't have to look to another hacker for a role model.
I read that you told Jitspoe what he "needed to know." So there may be more that you didn't tell him which is relevant? Your opinion of what is "needed to know" may differ from some one else's.
To use your words, "try reading everything....." I did say that I'm not disputing fairness of the topic at hand. Granted, you may have been typing your response while I created that addendum.
I was refering more to the comment "spainter, your views dont count in the post, sorrrayyy" and mentioned that it may be an inside joke that I was unaware of. I have done childish acts in my past, even recent past, and will admit that I have flamed people on this forum before. I didn't really take the situation I was commenting on during that time seriously.
I would like to reiterate that I'm not disputing the fairness of the situation. It is not fair. I wanted to explain that there is probably a good reason why they're still banned. I work at a law firm so I have a tendency to pick out things that may diminish the plausibility of another party or their argument.
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lol Jitspoe can do whatever the hell he wants, its his game, end of. Playing the game is not a right, it is a privelege.
However, irregardless of the fact that the active community has severely declined, the fact of the matter is that the ban times dont seem to make sense/ correlate on a whole, so it is understable why some may feel wrongly done. It is understandable, but that does not mean Jitspoe has to take it into account, although perhaps he should for the sake of 'fairness'.
The whole 'they shouldnt have banned in the first place' comment is rubbish. Thats not what is being discussed, theyve already made that mistake/choice so deserve a ban time, but if ban times are allocated by certain paramaters, then it should be ensured that those parameters are applied to each case..
All in all, Jitspoe should review the times, but he can do it whenever he wants to if he chooses to.
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These guys should be banned for ever and ever. Then shot.
/sarcasm
Need people to match!
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P.S Not HomingBullet though, he has had too many chances.
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hey myles i talked to Riddick who told me all of this sop dont blame me blame him. plus i dont give a intercourse who believes what. you all got banned and i dont know why you got unbanned along with Riddick.
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I think you would make THE BEST rolemodels LIKE EVER if you would wait 1024 days and match every day after that!
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oh and hey marawana, i didnt hack because if i did i would be in the same boat as you guys. hacking in this game that doesnt even matter.
at least im not the one who is begging to play again. sure the 1000+ day ban might be bs, but you have to admit, 10+ people hacking and getting caught all at once forced jitspoe into doing what he did. i dont blame him at all.
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Everybody on the ban list sucked anyways. Let them play, let them hack, and let them continue sucking with those same hacks. They should get extra brownie points for having to cheat in a game to get on the same level as some of us legit players. Makes me giggle inside.
Having just came back from a break, more players to match against would be nice but hell, most of the people playing now probably continue to hack, continue to use modded textures + slight undetectable speedhacks, and will continue to do so until banned themselves. Why not just add a few more to the crew so we can have more of a variety of people to play against and more people for jitspoe to ban later. Let's be realistic, it's not like any of them were half decent anyways.
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just retarded to give everyone over 1000 days ban :Dd lol my whole clan hacked like 4 years ago and we all got just 32 days ban so why these guys get so many days ? and yeah this isnt first time some kids decide to hack but its the first time stupid bans are given
ps : phen and pauline broke up again =(
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Not trying to downgrade your opinion, but you don't play often... nor are into the matching scene, so I'm curious why you say keep it, please elaborate and back up your option? You believe 1st/2nd offenders deserve 1024 days? Even jitspoe admitted he'd review the bans after he got the info, so that means even he disagrees with the ban lengths, I'm just trying to remind him to review it, its been a long time...
This are the rules [64 days (if you sent him infos 32 days), not 1024 days for the first offense]:
I've decided to make a slight change in the way ban times work for cheaters. This has been done in the past with a few select people, but I might as well make it standard. You must be willing to provide some or all of the following:
- Demos of matches in question.
- All of the cheats you've used (don't send these to anybody but me, obviously, or put them on public download sites - cheat distribution has a stiff penalty)
- Any other files requested (textures, etc.)
- Who/where you got the cheats from.
Failure to do so will result in a doubled ban time (currently, a first time offense will result in a 64 day ban unless the info requested is provided). As always, ban times are subject to change. Also, don't lie. I log a lot of information and can usually verify the information given.
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unban ivo
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Everybody on the ban list sucked anyways. Let them play, let them hack, and let them continue sucking with those same hacks. They should get extra brownie points for having to cheat in a game to get on the same level as some of us legit players. Makes me giggle inside.
Having just came back from a break, more players to match against would be nice but hell, most of the people playing now probably continue to hack, continue to use modded textures + slight undetectable speedhacks, and will continue to do so until banned themselves. Why not just add a few more to the crew so we can have more of a variety of people to play against and more people for jitspoe to ban later. Let's be realistic, it's not like any of them were half decent anyways.
MyeRs is TeHBeSt bro... And for those who say we had been hacking since we started, that's a retarded lie. Hardly consider a week a long time.
You clearly got back from a break, so you don't know the whole story but none of us hacked to "get at the same level" as all you badass pros...
This are the rules [64 days (if you sent him infos 32 days), not 1024 days for the first offense]:
Exactly...
I think you would make THE BEST rolemodels LIKE EVER if you would wait 1024 days and match every day after that!
Thank you, that's exactly what I thought!!!!1one
unban ivo
Hii rabii ^^ <3
@Gonass: Sorry if I misunderstood what you meant...
ps : phen and pauline broke up again =(
Yayyy... Now I'm gonna try my luck with Romu
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MyeRs is TeHBeSt bro... And for those who say we had been hacking since we started, that's a retarded lie. Hardly consider a week a long time.
You clearly got back from a break, so you don't know the whole story but none of us hacked to "get at the same level" as all you badass pros...
Exactly...
Thank you, that's exactly what I thought!!!!1one
Hii rabii ^^ <3
@Gonass: Sorry if I misunderstood what you meant...
Yayyy... Now I'm gonna try my luck with Romu
who are u? can some tell me...
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calm down
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nice colors... my friend told me once "patience is a virtue bro" by ptvjimmy..
Jitspoe is trying to solve are cases i know how frustrated u all are.. so i m.. i know this cuz had gotten a message from him about like 3 weeks ago ;D. after all if u cant do the time then don't the time.
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hey myles i talked to Riddick who told me all of this sop dont blame me blame him. plus i dont give a intercourse who believes what. you all got banned and i dont know why you got unbanned along with Riddick.
yea Riddick. the only one who denied hacking after he got banned...
I got unbanned because my ban time expired...(I'm just assuming, since that's usually how it works)
I don't understand your last sentence :( Riddick is banned and I'm not
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oh and hey marawana, i didnt hack because if i did i would be in the same boat as you guys. hacking in this game that doesnt even matter.
at least im not the one who is begging to play again. sure the 1000+ day ban might be bs, but you have to admit, 10+ people hacking and getting caught all at once forced jitspoe into doing what he did. i dont blame him at all.
Did i even accuse you of hacking? i think at the most i was making a joke about the multi situation.. but now i got my doubts, spainter does come out with some stupid stuff, and that just equalled it for me
ps : phen and pauline broke up again =(
Heard about it D= tr0lawolll
who are u? can some tell me...
who are you is what im thinking, neverheard asking who idias is.. keep toxiic banned thx
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Heard about it D= tr0lawolll
who are you is what im thinking, neverheard asking who idias is.. keep toxiic banned thx
why do u hate me soo much? is that my skill level always amazed you? ;D
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I agree with what mara has to say, and as an active player in dp2, the game is calling for a coffin. And as mara said, jitspoe should have thought about the responsibility needed and be up-to-date with msotly everything in this game.. Not just to give everyone 1000+ days and forget about it.
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I agree with what mara has to say, and as an active player in dp2, the game is calling for a coffin. And as mara said, jitspoe should have thought about the responsibility needed and be up-to-date with msotly everything in this game.. Not just to give everyone 1000+ days and forget about it.
but he never forgot about it....
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I agree with what mara has to say, and as an active player in dp2, the game is calling for a coffin. And as mara said, jitspoe should have thought about the responsibility needed and be up-to-date with msotly everything in this game.. Not just to give everyone 1000+ days and forget about it.
He didn't just toss a 1000 day ban to get rid of us for good, there was the assumption that it was a major hack off, so jitspoe gave us high bans until he figured out what happenned. We told him what happenned and he said he'd review our cases, he's just been busy with updating the game and real life, which is probably a priority over unbanning hackers.
Jitspoe told me to contact him again when he had finished releasing and updating the build so I guess I'll just have to do that :P
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yea Riddick. the only one who denied hacking after he got banned...
I got unbanned because my ban time expired...(I'm just assuming, since that's usually how it works)
I don't understand your last sentence :( Riddick is banned and I'm not
Supposedly after b33 is released he will be unbanned, not sure if this goes for a lot of the rest of the people. Also, i do recall him saying that he denied hacking before that hell week, but he DID DO IT BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE WAS AND THAT THEY WERE ALL QUITTING TO GO PLAY ANOTHER GAME... thats what he said. the "last hurrah" so to speak.
@ mara sorry at 3 am i just got back from the bar and was drunk, sorry if my english wasn't superb. Also while being drunk i misread this sentence: So fox, is hacking to pretend to be good better than hacking to have fun with a few friends? The first deserves 32/63 and second deserves 1024? makes sense.....? i saw that without the comma meaning you stated i was hacking to be good. my apologies.
as far as spainter goes, think what you want. I really don't care.
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unban myers
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id just like to say that everything spewing out of foxhounds mouth has nothing to do with me. the only thing i told him was
1) i didnt hack
2) jitspoe might be unbanning me after b33
other then that i have no thoughts or desire to share anything with the community. jitspoe can ask me anything he wants to though. ty
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Some of the people that were part of this group think like full blown criminals.. Giving yourself in is a sign of you regretting what you've done, that you feel guilt, that you do have respect for the community and its laws, something along those lines. None of that is true when you guys gave yourselves in, it was simply a preplanned move which only served to show how low you guys can go. Stop deluding yourselves.
This got me to comment:
Most of us reported ourselves after a week of hacking, few/none people suspected and it was undetected, proof of that are the people that distributed had been using it for months, and only got caught after we gave our informations up, so yes, we could actually be quite a role model, as far as it comes to hackers because we admitted :)
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everyone who wasn't involved seems to think they know everything lol ^^
We turned ourselves in because we saw how boring the game was when we hacked, so we wanted to get our bans over with and come back with a clean slate, rather than get banned a month after we stopped hacking.
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I think the ban is unfair for some. 1000+ days d*** that sucks. Should be looked over.
Since I never hacked does that mean i'm a role model?
Or would I be disqualified because I was e-friends with hackers and stood by them because they are my e-friends?
Sorry to take the topic off track, that was really eating away at me.
FTR, Myself, Pro, and Fitz has found a match everyday since coming back. So bout a week now.
Unban everyone :D.
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I just cheated and got 1024 on a second offense, there was no intention to kill the game at all. I should start making up stories to get my post count up too.
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Reading posts from a collection of threads preaching for unbanning these players seems reasonable.
Ulitmately one must put aside personal feelings towards the peopel themselves, whether they are polite or just rude, and realise that if a certain 'dogma' is put in place, the parameters of those rules must therefore be followed.
It makes sense to unban them if they have served the time that was supposed to have been served.
And seeing as they have already carried out a larger ban than they were supposed to have, it further supports the notion that they may have realised their mistake, even if it is not definite.
From Britland, UnRateD.
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Man you guys are pretty lucky, at least you got a message from jits saying "you might get unbanned when b33 is release"... so why don't you guys just chill abit.
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I like how they "hacked and turned themselves in" because they don't care about the game, yet they want to be unbanned.
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Dear Gonass,
We turned ourselves in because we saw how boring the game was when we hacked, so we wanted to get our bans over with and come back with a clean slate, rather than get banned a month after we stopped hacking.
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I like how they "hacked and turned themselves in" because they don't care about the game, yet they want to be unbanned.
I dont think banning rules should be changed just because supposedly some people do not care about the game. And doesnt the fact that they want to be unbanned show that perhaps they do care?
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why does it matter? that's not why we did it anyway....
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why does it matter? that's not why we did it anyway....
thats my point, it shouldnt matter
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the real one who got f**ked over was cusoman
UNBAN CUSOMAN
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Clean slate? Its not like you're turning 18 and your record is wiped. People remember. Its always open for public view to see if you've ever been banned.
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the real one who got f**ked over was cusoman
UNBAN CUSOMAN
CUSOMAN SHOULD BE UNBANNED!
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CUSOMAN SHOULD BE UNBANNED!
Idias_*
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Why Idias? ;)
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I lifted a few forum bans. Check to see if your original accounts are working. Please pm me to let me know if yours was not among those lifted. If you would, also add your multiple forum account to that pm so I may delete these useless ones.
P.S. Yes, this is a prelude to some crazy decision making from the committee and the boss.
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Makes me wonder how many people could fill up a "banned only" server. Since they are so eager to play and all.
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I don't see how those of you that were banned can pretend like you did "the right thing". You didn't "turn yourselves in", you went and stirred up a big crapfest up on the forums. "Hey, look at us! We cheated! Jitspoe's cheat detection sucks! Let's all go play some other game!" Of the 10-20 people that were using that cheat not a single one of them came forward to me directly and provided the cheat and info about how it was distributed (until they were forced to later if they wanted a chance to be unbanned, even then, some of them still haven't contacted me).
Also, I don't have a magic "ban" button. Banning people probably takes an average of 40 minutes (scanning logs, getting appropriate IP's and hardware ID's, and making my best attempt not to ban other players that might have the same hardware), and often takes a lot longer when the accounts are older and have been used on a number of computers (as it did with many of these cases). When I only have a couple of hours of free time per day to dedicate to Paintball2, that's days, if not weeks, worth of work when banning a large number of players, not to mention all of the fallout on the forums.
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unsure about alot of what you said but as for "lets all go play some other game!" what other choice did any of us have? you banned the majority of us for 1054 days i hope you werent expecting a big ol "Lets wait out our 3 year ban guys! dp is worth it!" i dont see any precedent for the ban times that got handed out especially for those of us who it would have been considered their 1st offense.
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I'm talking about before the bans. Example:
Names used:
.xeNt.blewberry
[B<==8]CheMiCaL
blewberry
yeah i hacked this week.
jitspoe for future reference .. get a better cheat detection.
edit: i only hacked a week so all you haters that are gunna say HE DID IT FOR SO LONG AND PROBABLY THROUGH THE LEAGUE! you're wrong. this game just got to inactive/boring, and with the creator of the game not caring about it anymore was kinda useless to play. we're moving to different games such as TF2, CS:S and maybe somemore. by all!
BTW cyntex hacked too he just doesnt have a fourms account so i posted it for him.
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Also, I don't have a magic "ban" button. Banning people probably takes an average of 40 minutes (scanning logs, getting appropriate IP's and hardware ID's, and making my best attempt not to ban other players that might have the same hardware), and often takes a lot longer when the accounts are older and have been used on a number of computers (as it did with many of these cases). When I only have a couple of hours of free time per day to dedicate to Paintball2, that's days, if not weeks, worth of work when banning a large number of players, not to mention all of the fallout on the forums.
Not going to comment on the first part, since I'm pretty sure I sent everything instantly. But I might've been under DPSurfer, or something... And I probably started the crapfest on the forums... then everyone followed me... but I didn't pretend I did the right thing, I cheated, there's no way to put a positive spin on it... unless... I did it so Jitspoe could find a new cheat and make it detectable!
I thought banning takes time - since it's finding all the IP's etc.etc... but isn't unbanning relatively quick? Since it's just removing it, rather than searching through logs and whatnot. I'm just curious, not trying to make this into an argument to unban people. But anyways, take your time, nobody is in a rush. I'd rather see your time spent improving the game, instead of reviewing mine, and other players bantimes.
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I'm talking about before the bans. Example:
k forget what i said then. i wasnt aware that anything was said before people were banned :)
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I think I like this quote "again i didnt hack. i could care less what you think. you can make my ban 10000000000 days for all i care. why would i come back to a game that i got banned in without even hacking.".
Oh, and this one "either way the only reason i ever came to this game was because it was free. now that tf2 is free and obviously superior to this i dont see the point in staying in a dieing game or even attempting to find new players for it.".
Another? "if that was the case shockwave would have been banned for his demo against bix. this game is lame".
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LoL nice one rick, i like these quotes. :]
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the only reason many people go to many games is because they are free. are you not currently playing dp becauses it was free. i dont know why youd even attempt to argue against that i can guarentee you that if you had to pay to play dp most of you wouldnt be here.
1. i still play tf2 i just happen to suck balls at the modes they match in.
2. considering my ban which would have been a 1st offense was 1054 days. if the ban stays he can change it to 10000000000 for all i care. why would i come back after that sir?
3.not sure what your last quote was about but i bet the majority of the community believes shockwave should have been banned for his demo against bix.
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They are a disease. Don't unban them.
edit: I'm talking about all of the people that had the intent to "kill the game"
They should remain banned for 1024 days in my opinion. Maybe we can look at the others.
im with superman =)
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Unban them. There aren't any good players currently. Maybe we will have some exciting matches again then. !!!!!!! buuuuuu
Matches against myers, shk and chemical have always been best matches. 8)