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Title: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 01, 2006, 05:41:04 AM
I've found as of late that my current computer has grown grossly inadequate. So, I'm looking into building a new one.

I'm better versed in software when it comes to dealing with computers, so I don't know much about the hardware side of things-- I know basically what I'll need, but have no clue how to put it together.

So, I need somewhere that can tell me what to do to put together a good gaming computer, and recommend where to look for some parts. Searches have turned up stuff that looks pretty out of date and unreliable, but I don't know all that much. Can anyone here help? Well, you can, but will you?

EDIT: Yeah, I looked around on NewEgg and made a list of parts. Yeeeeah... that's about all. I assume I'll need to check if they're all compatable with each other, something I'm not sure how to do.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: XtremeBain on July 01, 2006, 10:29:02 AM
Here's a guide from Tom's Hardware from June 12th.  I don't know if it's exactly what you're aiming for, though.
Link: Your DIY 4 GHz Dual Core Gaming Rig For $720 (http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/06/12/your_diy_gaming_rig_for_720/)


It might be a good point of reference to take a look at the Guides over at Sharky Extreme.  They've got a Value Gaming System guide for May '06 and a High End Gaming System guide for March '06.  You can follow up with their June price guides to adjust the costs a little and use newegg.com or whatever for actual figures. 
Link: Sharky Extreme Guides (http://www.sharkyextreme.com/guides/index.php)

If there's any other sites that frequently offer similar guides, post them up.  They're always an interesting read.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on July 01, 2006, 03:23:12 PM
Here's my partslist: http://neonpulse.net/2006/04/02/new-computer/
You're in time to go AM2, I was too early  :'(
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: jitspoe on July 01, 2006, 03:23:50 PM
Re: Your DIY 4 GHz Dual Core Gaming Rig For $720

Wow, that's like everything I wouldn't do in a machine.
- ATI Radeon = suck.
- Overclocking that much = shortens component lifespan.
- Raid 0 = lose one drive, you lose everything.
- Water cooling = not portable, and plenty of room for disaster if there's a leak or something.
- ASRock mobo = super budget.  Probably won't work.

Personally I'd go with a single core opteron and an nVidia card.  I've had my new machine for a few months now and haven't had a single lockup or blue screen.  My previous ATI system had all kinds of problems and I was lucky if I could play a whole round without it freezing up.

Here's the details on my machine: http://dpball.com/forums/index.php?topic=1468.0 -- I have 2 gigs in it now, though.  2 1gb chips in dual channel is the fastest.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on July 01, 2006, 03:28:47 PM
4 1gb chips in dual channel is the fastest.  :P
wait! no, a huge cluster of boxes with 4 1gb chips in dual channel is the fastest.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 01, 2006, 03:40:37 PM
Yeah, I don't really want to overclock and don't like water cooling. You and I are alike, jits. I also am all about the nVidia. I'll post my note-taking Notepad thingy... now.

Quote
RAM:
 2 GB
 ~$200

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227210 - $190

Vid Card:
 Nvidia
 OpenGL 2.0
 ~$300

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150149 - $300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814139004 - $270


Hard Drive:
 >250 GB
 ~$100

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144701 - $90


MotherBoard:
 *AMD*/Intel ?
 PCI Express x16
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135220 - $87
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131524 - $110

CPU:
 AMD
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103603 - $123


CD-ROM:
 CD/DVD RW
 ~$40

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827131031 - $36


Case:
 Mid-sized tower?
 ~$100 (or less)

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129017 - $130
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119094 - $75
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144105 - $58

Power Supply:
 12V@26A
 24-Pin
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817182009 - $55
EDIT: ^not up to date. See my most recent post.

Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: jitspoe on July 01, 2006, 03:52:48 PM
4 1gb chips in dual channel is the fastest.  :P
wait! no, a huge cluster of boxes with 4 1gb chips in dual channel is the fastest.
Negative.  The overhead for extra chips actually slows it down.  I had 3 gigs (2x1gb, 2x512mb) and it was slower than 2 gigs, so I just removed the extra chips.  Unless you're actually using that much memory, which is unlikely, then you're hurting yourself.

Edit: For an extra $20, you might as well get a DVD burner, and why did you have to put that stuff in code tags.  The links don't work. I have a seasonic power supply.  They're a little pricey, but I heard they were the best, and I haven't had any problems with it.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: SkateR on July 01, 2006, 04:02:26 PM
Is the operton better than the ahtlon. I planned on getting a dual core athlon most likely
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 01, 2006, 04:05:32 PM
I used code because I like the font. Fine, I'll change it.

And yeah, those SeaSonic power supplies are 'a bit' pricy. If there are less expensive alternatives I'd be glad to hear about them...

Until then, is a 20+4 connector the same as a 24 connector? Despite math telling me yes, logic tells me no.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on July 01, 2006, 04:09:30 PM
The Dual-Core Athlons run well, and Jits, some people do use all that and wouldn't be able to do what they do at 2Gigs  :P

1 .heard bad reviews from friends on that "elitegroup" mobo brand, but the reviews on it look good (all my friends are ASUS and SOYO fanboys)
2. corsair has some cheap ram if you're not an ocz fanboy
3. the 7900GT is cheaper than that card, so I don't know why you'd get an older model  :P
4. AMD is a very good choice

and whatever you do with your ram, never have 3 chips, either go with 2 or 4, having 3 kills the dual-channel speed.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 01, 2006, 04:20:18 PM
3. the 7900GT is cheaper than that card, so I don't know why you'd get an older model  :P
Yeeeeeah, that's why I came here. So, now I have to decide between video cards. I'm blindly looking at these three:
Vun. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814170100)
(Not so much, due to lack of reviews)
Too. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150149)
(Looks great, but the loud fan thing kinda turns me off)
Free. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814139004)
(Yay?)
and whatever you do with your ram, never have 3 chips, either go with 2 or 4, having 3 kills the dual-channel speed.
Yeah, I'm having two 1 gigs.

4. AMD is a very good choice
Too bad.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on July 01, 2006, 05:12:01 PM
You mean you're going Intel? What's the point in that?
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 01, 2006, 05:15:56 PM
I... was... being sarcastic?

No, I just haven't gotten any sleep in 22 hours. Forgive me.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on July 01, 2006, 05:39:32 PM
You are forgiven.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: jitspoe on July 02, 2006, 04:42:15 AM
The 7900 didn't exist when I built my machine.  It would probably be the more logical choice now.  I'm actually quite satisfied with what I have.  It's been a few months, and the prices really haven't gone down any.

And Opterons are better than Athlons.  They're server-grade.  More cache and more thorough testing, which means they're more likely to overclock well (and just work well in general).  When I got mine, the prices were about the same, so it was really a no-brainer.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 02, 2006, 02:49:27 PM
The Opterons look kinda expensive. Is what I have right now for the motherboard good? I also realized I don't have a CPU yet. I should probably get one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103603
Looks to me like that would work...

EDIT: modified list o' parts to reflect changes...
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on July 02, 2006, 04:52:53 PM
For the motherboard/CPU comparability you just make sure that the sockets are the same, most motherboards actually have a list of compatable CPUs in their specs area.
Like my CPU is socket 939, so I bought a socket 939 motherboard for it.
Some Opterons are socket 939 and some are 940.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_939
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_940

My Athlon 64 4200+ Dual-Core runs fine, I still haven't hit 100% CPU usage without trying to.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 02, 2006, 04:58:30 PM
Yeah, I read about that some. It seems everything is 939. :P

I found a power supply that should work. Will it?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817182009

EDIT: Oh, and should I get a sound card, or will the onboard card do?
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on July 02, 2006, 05:02:33 PM
That looks good to me, it has 24 pins and has SATA power on it.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 02, 2006, 05:05:14 PM
And the 12V@26A my video card needs. :D

Btw, what's SATA?
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on July 02, 2006, 05:12:39 PM
Serial ATA, its a faster alternative for IDE, you use it for newer HardDrives and CD/DVD drives. That motherboard you have picked out will do SATA, and so will the PSU, so you can use it. I do recommend a SATA HDD instead of IDE if its reasonably in your price range. I just upgraded to one recently because Quake 4 was lagging on my box and I was clueless to what could possibly be the problem, it was my old harddrive slowing it down.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 02, 2006, 05:14:12 PM
Yeah, I looked it up, but I don't get what it has to do with the PSU. :P
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on July 02, 2006, 05:35:10 PM
The PSU has the right connector to power it, SATA devices don't use a normal 4-pin connector like other devices, they use a special conector. You don't really need the PSU to have those connectors on it to run SATA devices though because most SATA things come with a 4-pin molex to SATA adapter thingy-ma-bobber.
here's what it looks like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sata#Cables_and_Connectors

Here's all my parts, I didn't get them all off of NewEgg, but I'll try to find them on NewEgg so that its easy to compare stuff to them.

AMD Athlon 64 4200+ X2 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103547) - Has been serving me well in 32-bit and 64-bit software.

 ASUS A8N-SLI (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131524) - I got it because I have friends who are ASUS fanboys, it hasn't let me down and its BIOS is great for tweaking stuff in, also its got some neat features to it like being able to replace the BIOS screen image.

 ASPIRE X-Plorer Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144105) - Its actually a normal green, not neon at all unless for if you happen to have a blacklight in your room, the fan layout on this case is great though, not loud at all for me, the CPU fan-duct has a plastic filter on it that I clean once in a great while.

 ASPIRE ATX 520W PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817148008) - has a fan speed controller on it, but if its not all the way turned down then its loud, good speakers cover it up well though.

1GB 184-pin PC3200 DDR SDRAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145505) - they're cheap and they work fine, a friend of mine recommended that I got them, so I did

Fatal1ty 1010 Mouse (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826158016) - This and the Wingman are the only mice that I've ever felt comfortable with in my lion-paw like hand, sadly its not designed for extended use and my left-click is almost broke, as for the driver problems people have, I don't have those problems in linux  :P

 eVGA Geforce 7900GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814130281) - I had an AGP eVga MX400 a while back, so I decided that it wouldn't be bad to buy this card even though it was one of the cheaper 7900GTs, it suits me well, so far there's no game that I've tried with it that I couldn't get good settings out of at 1280x1024. If you run this in linux you will need to modify your xorg.conf to get the full potential of this videocard.

Logitech Z-4 2.1 Speakers (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16836121130) - my headphones hurt my ears, and my old speakers crackled too much, so I got these, they work very well and don't crackle for me. I have the woofer at my feet and the left and right speakers on each side of my monitor, with the wired remote right next to my keyboard for easy adjustment of volume and bass while in a game.


Segate 160GB SATA HDD (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1639147&CatId=0) - I picked this up at the local TigerDirect, I wanted a Maxtor, but they didn't have squat in stock in the actual store so I got this, its been holding up for a month or so, and has already outlived two of my WesternDigital harddrives from the past, so I'm hoping that the Segate brand which I've never bought before this, won't let me down. Everyone told me to get a Raptor, but I didn't for these reasons 1.) Price, 2.) Don't really know that I need more than 7900 RPM, and 3.) WD harddrives have let me down a lot.

Ergonomic Multimedia PS/2 Keybord (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=523095&CatId=535) - it was in stock at the local TigerDirect, it had multimedia keys, and I need ergonomic or my wrists hurt. Also the split spacebar is great for double-jumping  :P
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 02, 2006, 06:27:21 PM
Thanks. I'll consider that motherboard and case, but the CPU looks a little bit too expensive. I need hard drive reccomendations-- is the one I have right now any good?
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on July 02, 2006, 07:05:09 PM
From the reviews on that HardDrive I'd say that it looks fine, not too many people have had trouble with it. WD's newer harddrives are a lot better than their old ones, so if you get WD stick to the newer SATA ones, not their IDE ones.

Another SATA thing is that in windows when you install you sometimes have to stick in a Floppy disk that comes with the motherboard that has the SATA drivers, this isn't always the case though and I didn't have to do it with mine.

Some heads up on my case are that people who have larger powersupplies have trouble with the fan on the top of the case getting in the way of it, also I don't recommend getting a case with lights like this if you sleep in the same room as your computer and leave it on at night, the lights are really bright. The slide out motherboard tray saves a lot of trouble on putting the motherboard in, this case is large, so that's not too important, on smaller and more crammed cases its more important to have.
I always hear bad things about dual-channeling PNY ram in ASUS motherboards, so if you get an ASUS make sure you aren't getting PNY ram too, although you aren't.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 02, 2006, 10:26:30 PM
I don't sleep anywhere near my computer, but I'd prefer it not have lights and junk. Is there a similar case without the lights and fancyness?

Also, if WD doesn't have the best  hard drives, is there another manufacturer that does SATA that has more reliable drives?
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on July 03, 2006, 01:44:16 AM
The whole harddrive thing will be different for any person you ask, just like if you ask them about Operating Systems, you're best bet there is to just stick to the reviews and see what the majority has to say about the individual harddrive model.

Aspire has a case like mine that doesn't have the clear side-panel, but it still has the lights on the front door to the drive-bays.
On personal opinion I was gonna get one of these Ultra Fulltower Cases (http://www.ultraproducts.com/product_details.php?cPath=13&pPath=433&productID=433) but the price is the reason that I didn't, also the size, I move my case a lot for lan parties and hacker meets, so a fulltower case, nomatter how cool it is, wouldn't work well for me.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 04, 2006, 04:39:07 AM
Now I need to make sure all the components I've selected are compatable... I need some advice on that. Also, I'm still can't decide on motherboards or cases. Both motherboards seem good, but I'm not so sure I want to go with the cheaper option on such an important thing as the motherboard. The cases are near the same price, and I just don't know which one to get.

So, this is what I have now. The '<-'s are the parts I'm planning on getting.
Quote
RAM:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227210 - $190 (-$30 +$5) <-

Vid Card:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150149 - $300 (+$0)
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814139004 - $270 (-$20 +$5) <-
 

Hard Drive:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148105 - $65 (+$5) <-


MotherBoard:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135220 - $87 (+$8)
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131524 - $110 (+$8)

CPU:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103603 - $123 (+$0) <-


CD-ROM:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152060 - $35 (+$0) <-


Case:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119094 - $80 (+$0)
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144105 - $58 (+$12.89)

Power Supply:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817182009 - $55 (+$9) <-
EDIT: ^not up to date. See my most recent post.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 05, 2006, 02:37:50 AM
Um, bump. I need help. See above.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: jitspoe on July 05, 2006, 12:37:13 PM
Wow, it seems Opterons have gone up in price.  I guess they're probably not worth it.  I'd stay away from that WD Caviar drive.  I've had 2 die and my friend has had one die.  Granted, they were refurbs, but why would woot.com have thousands of refurbs to sell unless thousands of people had problems (which it seems weren't even fixed for the most part).  Spend a little more and get something more reliable like a Seagate.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 05, 2006, 07:30:44 PM
Seagate you say? Found one. I decided I probably don't need more than about 150GB, so I moved down in size. I can always get another, or something.

Well, changed the above post to reflect that. Now, what do I need to make sure is compatable? As far as I can tell, this all works, but I don't know much about this.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 07, 2006, 08:03:16 AM
Bump again because I need help.

Everything on newegg says they're compatable, but as I've said many times before, I don't really know what I'm doing. Can anyone help out in any way? :P

Also, don't buy hard drives from Hitachi. Because they made this (http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/research/recording_head/pr/PerpendicularAnimation.html).
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on July 07, 2006, 03:03:17 PM
OMG. Thanks for the heads up on that one, anyone who makes a horrid movie that seems to rip off of the School House Rock "I'm just a bill" song is just sick.
From what I see, it'll all work...but I didn't check out any of the power stuff...I'm not good with my Volts, when I put my boxes together I never checked any of that either and they worked though, lol.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 07, 2006, 03:11:21 PM
I think I have the power down, but I don't know what specific components require power. The motherboard does, and the videocard does, but none of the other parts say anything...
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on July 07, 2006, 03:49:13 PM
The SATA HDD is powered from the PSU's special SATA power cable, the CD/DVD drive is powered by a 4-pin molex thingy (also a PSU cable), the RAM is of course powered by being plugged into the mobo, it looks like neither of those video cards require any power other than what the PCI-e16 gives them, and the Aspire case has a 4-pin molex piece that another 4-pin molex from the PSU plugs into to power the front lights, most of the other fans plug into either the little power wires that come out of the PSU, or the ones on the mobo (that way it can control their speed). The fan that comes with the CPU will definately plug right into the spot on the mobo next to the CPU socket.
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Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: jitspoe on July 07, 2006, 10:29:42 PM
eiii double posted!  We should all give him a hard time about it since he bugs everybody else!

RAM:
Should be fine, but you could probably get something cheaper if need be.  I think this is what I got: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220040

Vid:
I don't think the brand really makes much of a diffrence.  The XFX looks like it comes stock overclocked.  I've never heard of the other brand.

HD:
Should hold you over well.  As for Hitachi, they also made the "Deathstar" drives for IBM.

Mobo:
Don't know much about ECS, but I've heard good things about ASUS.  Never owned one myself.

CPU:
Basically the budget version of what I have.  Should be good and has lots of positive reviews.

DVD burner:
I think this technology has pretty much leveled out, so you'll probably be fine with whatever.  I usually go with lite-on because they're cheap and reliable, but I think lite-on may actually make the drives for NEC, so whichever is cheaper.

Case:
Really up to what you think looks good.  Just make sure it allows for good air flow (vents in the front and back that fans can be attached to).

PSU:
I think rosewill PSU's are the ones that come with cases that people throw out to put in antec or seasonic psu's, so I don't know how much I'd trust that.  Seems to have a fair number of good reviews, though, so you may be OK.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 08, 2006, 01:24:56 AM
Yeah, it was a bump. :P I needed to draw attention to the topic, as modifying won't make it say there's been new posts.

I really don't care if my case looks good or not, it should just have enough room for everything and keep cool. It could be hot pink and have ponies on it for all I care.

As for lite-on, a good number of their reviews say that they died after a year or so of use, so I'll stay away from them. They're only about $10 cheapor than my current one, anyway.

I'll go with the ASUS motherboard, then. And I'm the PSU has enough good reviews that I trust it.

Here's what I have now:
Quote
MotherBoard:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135220 - $87 (+$8)
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131524 - $110 (+$8) <-

Vid Card:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150149 - $300 (+$0)
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814139004 - $270 (-$20 +$5) <-

RAM:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220040 - $188 (-$55 +$5) <-
 
CPU:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103603 - $123 (+$0) <-

Hard Drive:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144701 - $90 (+$0) <-

Power Supply:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817182009 - $55 (+$9) <-

CD/DVD:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152060 - $35 (+$0) <-

Case:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119094 - $80 (+$0)
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144105 - $58 (+$13) <-

OS:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837102059 - $88 (+$5) <-

I'm happy with it.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: XtremeBain on July 08, 2006, 07:39:17 PM
This is the point where you admit to having no money and thank us all for wasting our time.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on July 08, 2006, 08:00:21 PM
You're buying Windows?...hit me up and I'll save you the $88+$5 and get you Pro too...
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 08, 2006, 09:14:42 PM
ORLY? PM time.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on July 08, 2006, 09:45:36 PM
I got your aim sn, next time I see you on I'll hit you up.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 08, 2006, 09:46:05 PM
That sn is out of date. New one, for whoever wants it: eiii bob.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Smokey on July 09, 2006, 01:44:31 AM
KeWL!
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: XtremeBain on July 09, 2006, 09:21:49 AM
Problem with valid generated keys now is that they're not activated(and 99% of the time can't be) and fail WGA authentication.  This causes nag screens and prevents you from downloading things from the MS Download Centre. Then it becomes a hobby to crack it each time they push a new WGA update through Windows Update.

Good luck with it anyway, though  :-\
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 09, 2006, 11:47:40 AM
Yeah, I'm not looking to pirate things.
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Post by: IronFist on July 09, 2006, 11:55:33 AM
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Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: jitspoe on July 09, 2006, 06:56:50 PM
Hey, you stole my serial number!
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 09, 2006, 06:59:08 PM
I've actually changed a lot of stuff now, chose a slightly more expensive thing here and made up for it by getting a slightly less expensive something else. I also discovered that the case I thought was more expensive than TinMan's at first is actually a little more if you factor in mail-in rebates and shipping, and I like the other option more.

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MotherBoard:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135220 - $87 (+$8)
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131524 - $120 (+$8) <-

Vid Card:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150149 - $300 (+$0)
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814139004 - $270 (+$5) <-

RAM:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220040 - $188 (-$55 +$5) <-
 
CPU:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103603 - $118 (+$0)
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103531 - $145 (+$0) <-

Hard Drive:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144701 - $90 (+$0)
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148105 - $65 (+$6) <-

Power Supply:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817182009 - $55 (+$9) <-

CD/DVD:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827131409 - $20 (+$7) <-
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152060 - $35 (+$0)

Case:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119094 - $70 (-$25 +$15) <-
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144105 - $58 (+$13)

OS:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837102059 - $88 (+$5) <-

Parts:     $1021
Shipping: +$60
Rebates:  -$80
Total:     $1001

Heh, funny final price too.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: jitspoe on July 09, 2006, 07:07:27 PM
Uh-oh! You're $1 over budget!
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 09, 2006, 07:09:34 PM
I'm the worst shopper ever. :<
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on July 09, 2006, 08:01:32 PM
lol, you can always do something naughty for a dollar  :P
My XP Corp always works 100% with WGA, probably because the keys that I use for it are legal, and since its corporate I really only need one of them, but I got more than one because I got my connections with people who's sucker businesses use XP Pro.

Go with Ubuntu man!!! Or maybe dual-boot!!!!! lol
I try to avoid using XP, I still have a hologramemd Win2K Pro CD that I try to use when I'm running windows, it runs oh-so-smooth and doesn't hog anything at all, just get rid of the default explorer shell and install bb4win and I'm set.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: namebrand on July 09, 2006, 09:33:55 PM
HEY KID!
I'MMA COMPUTA!!...STOP ALL THE DOWNLOADIN'!

I'onno much bout' computas otha then the one we got at ma house my mom putta couple games on it n I play em
SLoHDASDOJKF.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 09, 2006, 09:37:30 PM
...an impressive second post.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: jitspoe on July 09, 2006, 09:38:49 PM
Aww, hell naw, what's up, dog?
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Smokey on July 10, 2006, 12:26:19 AM
lmfao i just laughed so hard at jistpoe. I think his fear of unibonger is getting to him
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: jitspoe on July 10, 2006, 02:55:28 PM
And I think Smokey lacks a critical piece of Internet culture (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/gijoe-computer.html).
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Smokey on July 10, 2006, 04:16:08 PM
old.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: jitspoe on July 10, 2006, 04:35:03 PM
And yet you still didn't catch the reference?
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: jitspoe on July 13, 2006, 03:37:59 PM
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2800 -- looks like AMD CPU prices are dropping after the 24th, so you might want to hold off a few days.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 13, 2006, 05:55:45 PM
Ooh. Wasn't planning on buying until near the end of the month, but that's good to know anyway.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 31, 2006, 04:36:55 PM
I'm going to order the parts today, so I figured that it'd be good to re-check the prices again... and the video card I had chosen seems to have dissappeared.
Ah well. *switches to secondary option*

Also, with the CPU price drop, I might as well get something better. I've got my eye on  this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103562)... which has a combo deal with  this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138272)... which looks like a good motherboard.

I also decided not to get the case over newegg, I'll just go to Fry's and save myself the shipping fee.

EDIT: Power supply gone too. Sheesh. Going with this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817182013).
CD/DVD also gone... I'mma get this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827131014).

EDIT AGAIN: After all that, price down to $985. Anything I should see if I can improve $15 on? ;)
It's now down to $970. Is there anything I have here that's sub-par and I should improve?

(Parts list out of date =D )
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Post by: P!nk on July 31, 2006, 04:45:42 PM
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Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 31, 2006, 04:54:45 PM
Heh, I needed to bump it.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: jitspoe on July 31, 2006, 05:31:54 PM
Strange, I looked for 7900GT's, and saw an XFX in the list for about $50 less: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2000380048+1305520548+106790717+1067920129&Submit=ENE&Subcategory=48

Not sure where you found the $300 one.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on July 31, 2006, 06:26:38 PM
Those two are actually the same price, with the $300 one having a $30 mail in rebate, but yeah. Lol, overall, that one is $5 more. On a side note, I found one that has a one day sale today. And I'm buying it today, soooooo...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150150

Down to $959. Awesome.

EDIT: Parts ordered about 3 hours ago. Yay!
EDIT 2: So, now that the parts are coming I have to get the case. So, should I make sure everything will fit, or will most cases just work?
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Cobo on August 01, 2006, 10:51:14 PM
* Cobo reads EDIT 2...
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: MaDMaN on August 02, 2006, 04:05:06 AM
I would go with the 7950, and probably an AMD athlon 4800+ with 2 gbs of ram, a biostar mb, then 2 500gb sata2 drives...
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on August 05, 2006, 01:55:08 AM
Computer up and running. ;) It' s currently formating the HD so I can install windows. Couldn't have done it without you guys.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Smokey on August 05, 2006, 03:03:11 AM
<3
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on August 05, 2006, 03:53:46 AM
Using new computer to make this post. YAAAAAAAAAY. Drivers installed and everything.

Hope you enjoyed your 12 hours of eiii-freeness, Dpball forums.

EDIT: Runs BF2 (Demo, at least) on highest settings at a smooth rate. TM Nations looks reeeeeally good.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: MaDMaN on August 05, 2006, 08:08:41 PM
what all did you get for it? like spec wise?
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on August 06, 2006, 01:03:37 AM
Sexy.

But let's see what I can remember.

160 GB
2GHz Dual Core
2Gigs RAM
256MB Nvidia 7900

Can't think of anything else. Technophilia setting in.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on August 06, 2006, 09:32:40 PM
Since the topic is back up, in my previous post, that PSU, don't buy it.
P.S.
Spook, you shoulda seen Default get freakin owned by that thing, I saw the blue electricity hit him.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on August 07, 2006, 12:07:55 AM
Seems to work fine.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on August 07, 2006, 12:26:16 AM
You bought it? Return it while you can, lol. The wire inside it for the ground melted, so I'm told, which is why it started electricuting people... it was poor quality too, the labels on it were upside down, and the 4 fans in the thing rubbed wires in the PSU case.
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: Eiii on August 07, 2006, 10:10:26 PM
Google says nothing. Give me some evidence, and I'll consider it. =D
Title: Re: I'mma make a computer.
Post by: TinMan on August 07, 2006, 11:06:10 PM
Alright, Spook, gonna need you to back me up on this one, you're gonna need to get confirmation from Default that it zapped the excrement outa him.

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Just picked up a 500w Ultra X2-Connect PSU from TigerDirect today, works fine, and nobody gets zapped anymore. There is also no smoke coming out of my machine. The Ultra Lifetime Warranty makes me feel all warm and cozy too.