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Digital Paint Community => Clans, Matches, and Tournaments => Topic started by: mRokita on August 21, 2015, 04:46:56 PM

Title: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: mRokita on August 21, 2015, 04:46:56 PM
Yeah, I've started working on DPLeague again.
I want to know if i'm going to waste soooo much time or I'm not.
You can motivate me here, It really matters to me because then I feel that my work is not pointless.

hTml
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: kKd on August 21, 2015, 04:50:40 PM
do it
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: mRokita on August 21, 2015, 05:47:05 PM
The man who voted "No" -_-
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: GameZET on August 21, 2015, 06:12:31 PM
Do it
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: MON1TOR on August 22, 2015, 01:34:27 AM
Yeah do it.
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: mRokita on August 22, 2015, 02:35:22 PM
(http://img.htmldp.com/htmldp-1-20-34-50.png) <- why the hell?
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: JeongWa on August 22, 2015, 02:58:21 PM
It's a poll, ofc that there will be " no" . If you want to be recognized, you needs to achieve things, not just start a poll or to comes here with says. But you got the attention since you mentionned  attractive features, you wont get alot of hype like that ^^' Also, i don't like the idea of " you need hype to do things " it feel like you could leaves until you finish something, or that you could leave if you got frustrated. (remember me how it ended up with JMR's tournaments). What ever, To answer the question, of course the DP League would be useful, but there will be alot of adjustement to be made before it will fit the requirements / Needs, and alot of work to do :) So do it newb.
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: webhead on August 22, 2015, 03:47:24 PM
The best way to find out what a community wants/needs is to immerse yourself in its culture – which would be playing the game, in this case. Not the forums, really.

My quick-and-dirty recommendation for accomplishing that? Maybe just hop in a few servers and don't join a team, just chat with the players and ask them if they would be interested in joining something like that.
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: prozajik on August 22, 2015, 04:09:16 PM
(http://img.htmldp.com/htmldp-1-20-34-50.png) <- why the hell?
If you put No, why are you surprised people actually vote for it. And there is honestly no value in such a forum poll, since you have no idea if the votes are genuine or just trolls. There is too few people to make the result an actual representation of majority's opinion. The only time it has some kind of value is when there is no negative option, but all are options which result in a positive/similar result. For example maplist votes, it's not prefect since there still can be trolls, but it's probably the closes you get to a genuine result.

And pretty much what webhead said, 90% of people who actually play the game aren't on the forums/don't care for it.

I would add one more thing to webhead's suggestion: Get on skype and talk to known players if they would come back to play this etc. I can give you quite a few skype contacts if you are interested (my skype:prozajik). Skype was most commonly used by PB players to setup matches alongside irc (I would still say skype was/is bigger last 2 years) (EDIT:In EU).
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: webhead on August 22, 2015, 06:45:41 PM
I would add one more thing to webhead's suggestion: Get on skype and talk to known players if they would come back to play this etc. I can give you quite a few skype contacts if you are interested (my skype:prozajik). Skype most commonly used by PB players to setup matches alongside irc (I would still say skype was/is bigger last 2 years).
Maybe I was never into this game enough to know that, but I never used Skype with anyone from here. That's good to know though!
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: Oberhippie on August 23, 2015, 09:04:05 AM
I voted with "No". First of all organize a tournament or something like that, to find out what a league system need. It won't be a good project without that experience and input.
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: mRokita on August 23, 2015, 09:12:05 AM
I voted with "No". First of all organize a tournament or something like that, to find out what a league system need. It won't be a good project without that experience and input.
It's all about a ranking system and map elimination, I dont see any problem here.
I know how the tournaments work. The problem is that it will work in another way than any tournament/league that was organized before.
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: Oberhippie on August 23, 2015, 04:05:41 PM
[...]The problem is that it will work in another way than any tournament/league that was organized before.
And you want to test or discuss the new organization? Don't waste your time by implementing feature/s nobody wants. Maybe describe your plans and get some feedback first.
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: lukip on August 23, 2015, 04:29:50 PM
And you want to test or discuss the new organization? Don't waste your time by implementing feature/s nobody wants. Maybe describe your plans and get some feedback first.
i want the league system.
Do it
Yeah do it.
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: mRokita on August 23, 2015, 04:48:01 PM
kay so im working on it :]
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: prozajik on August 23, 2015, 05:41:37 PM
Maybe I was never into this game enough to know that, but I never used Skype with anyone from here. That's good to know though!
Interesting, did you use something else beside IRC? Also, I guess Skype was more of EU thing, didn't seem like NA's were too happy to ask for a match on Skype, always last resort.
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: webhead on August 27, 2015, 11:44:12 PM
Interesting, did you use something else beside IRC? Also, I guess Skype was more of EU thing, didn't seem like NA's were too happy to ask for a match on Skype, always last resort.

IRC mainly, plus Xfire on rare occasions – and there were probably instances when it was organized from within the game.
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: prozajik on August 28, 2015, 03:22:02 AM
IRC mainly, plus Xfire on rare occasions – and there were probably instances when it was organized from within the game.
Oh yea totally forgot about ingame hah. If I had to sum it up, back in days when we were vT (and FlyOver was still active, I remember spending the whole holidays just playing 3-5 matches a day  and grinding our win streak ^^) back in these days we used probably a fair distribution of IRC, ingame and Skype, I would say even IRC the most.

When it became more difficult to get matches and people started to leave, it was mainly Skype with a little of IRC.

Anyway, cool thanks for the info :p
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: flamer on August 28, 2015, 10:39:18 PM
If you want to be recognized, you needs to achieve things, not just start a poll or to comes here with says.

Je pense que tu ne le connais pas bien si tu dis ca. Il en a fait des choses t'as pas idée.
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: JACKLER on November 23, 2015, 03:30:29 AM
so what's the deal?  this still going ahead or what?
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: MON1TOR on November 23, 2015, 09:32:38 AM
No. hTml quit DP, and, due to lack of interest hes probably not going to finish it. Btw it was a great plan and a great project, I worked on the website of it.
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: JeongWa on November 23, 2015, 10:18:07 AM
Je pense que tu ne le connais pas bien si tu dis ca. Il en a fait des choses t'as pas idée.


Depuis que j'ai repris Paintball, je l'ai seulement vue annoncé des choses, qu'il n'a jamais términé. Comme ce projet d'ailleurs, quelque chose d'autre d'annoncé, qu'il abandonne.
Donc non, je ne lui donne aucun crédit, comme beaucoup de gens avec qui j'ai parler de lui, et de la durée de vie de ses pojets. Qu'il ai fait des choses ou pas, je juge seulement ce qu'il annonce au moment présent ^^' puis comme je l'avais prévû, ça n'a pas survécu longtemps cette idée. Dommâge pour lui, personnellement je ne donne plus de crédit à ses intérventions sur le forum.
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: mRokita on November 23, 2015, 01:08:47 PM
TeMaRu, I tried to understand your post, It would be nice to see it in English too ;)

Well, the main part of the system is already finished, the only thing that has to be done is some ranking system (Propably something ELO-based as Ace said).
It's not a big project, I don't want to work on it anymore because I don't want to waste my time.
Git repo:
https://github.com/mRokita/DPLeague
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: mRokita on November 24, 2015, 03:07:44 AM
So well, find me a Python programmer and I'll finish it.
And i want some support from the community to test the parser
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: DooCi on November 25, 2015, 03:58:48 PM
There is no community anymore. Seems like its time to kiss this game goodbye
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: kKd on November 26, 2015, 12:48:49 AM
Np i can help with all except programming.....
And Dooci you already said that very often.
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: mRokita on November 26, 2015, 12:58:42 AM
Np i can help with all except programming.....
And Dooci you already said that very often.
So you can grab the project and finish the ranking system, everything but not this is finished i think. :)
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: kKd on November 26, 2015, 07:16:45 AM
If i knew how to do it then yes. I wanna rly help but i can't program if this is required....
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: MON1TOR on November 26, 2015, 10:02:47 AM
If i knew how to do it then yes. I wanna rly help but i can't program if this is required....
What about promoting it? You could do that (but not aggressively,on pubs only).
Title: Re: The DPLeague project - Do you want me to complete it?
Post by: mRokita on November 26, 2015, 10:35:36 AM
Some python script for ELO scoring would motivate me ;)