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Digital Paint Community => Clans, Matches, and Tournaments => Topic started by: JMR on January 11, 2017, 09:32:23 PM
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Congratulations to [DPLEGENDS] For winning the 2v2 tournament!
Tonight 8 Teams turned up to battle it out late into the night to see who was skilled enough to take victory.
[DPLEGENDS] consisting of aveiRik and SQZ, stormed through the bracket, not losing a single match, then dominated at the final. A big congratulations.
1st: [DPLEGENDS] (aveiRik & SQZ)
2nd: .cM8t- (picky & rockitude)
3rd: SHK & Apollon
Check out (make sure you have sound turned on) http://pro-paintball.com/winnerz.php
Bracket results can be found here:
http://challonge.com/dp2v2tournament1
Thank you everyone who participated. it would be fun to do this again sometime when we're online.
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What maps was set for the tournament? When I see Picky & Spain loosing against Peppah & Senix Im curious about the maplist... :) ..
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What maps was set for the tournament? When I see Picky & Spain loosing against Peppah & Senix Im curious about the maplist... :) ..
who is this guy?? you should try playing vs us
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What maps was set for the tournament? When I see Picky & Spain loosing against Peppah & Senix Im curious about the maplist... :) ..
JMR is changing map list every tournament I believe, so it's not the same all the time. By the way Senix(NA) and Peppah(NA) had good performance beating picky and rockitude on EU server, they deserved win in that match.
pbcup_renoir, pbcup_pforest, carpathian, propaint1, pbcup_sassault, castle1, pp_sw, beta/twiling_b3, ruggedcountry
http://paintball.jordanmrichards.com/
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who is this guy?? you should try playing vs us
Sorry man ;)
pbcup_renoir, pbcup_pforest, carpathian, propaint1, pbcup_sassault, castle1, pp_sw, beta/twiling_b3, ruggedcountry
Bleh, disgusting.. :D Flags for free
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pbcup_renoir, pbcup_pforest, carpathian, propaint1, pbcup_sassault, castle1, pp_sw, beta/twiling_b3, ruggedcountry
so many new maps, no wonder the oldschewlerz lost to teh newschoolers!11!!1 am i rite renger?!ß!1?
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doenst matter the map we played cus we had some fun fun fun funfunf funnnnnn
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what are you talking about, that maplist is nice
spain is just new, give him time I can see GREATNESS in this guy
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what are you talking about, that maplist is nice
Are you serious? Only reason why was established this maplist is JMRs lack of time which he can pay to his tournament.
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some of those maps are the best match maps ever created man show some respect, you hate filled bloak.
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some of those maps are the best match maps ever created man show some respect, you hate filled bloak.
That is matter of opinion.. Also you have to distinguish between match and tournament and also between 2vs2 and 4vs4
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You do not even play matches, let alone playing competitively in tournaments Ranger, so why do you even complain about?
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thats because he needs attention
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Did I say so much? ... First I was curious Spain and Picky lost against Peppah and Senix.. I remember how Senix played.. If he skilled up, then good job, I havent seen him for some time... Then I appologized to them... Secondly I have said something about maplist which is tournament after tournament more or less the same.. And attract only the same kind of 10 - 15 players. What about the others? ... You cannot play wobluda or carpathian in 1s or 2s and be taken seriously... What about some smaller face to face maps? I remember these big maps with ice and more flags was always picked up by 2nd class players who couldnt win another way.. Thats the fact. Howgh.. And omg, you guys dont fight with every different opinion which appears on your little pond..
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Secondly I have said something about maplist which is tournament after tournament more or less the same.. And attract only the same kind of 10 - 15 players. What about the others?
Those maps keep staying around because people found out, that these maps have got the best flow for matches. You need tactics if you want to win a 3vs3 or 2vs2 on one of those maps. All of them are really hard to learn or to master. Also, which other players do you mean? Mention at least some players who are ACTIVE in the matching scene who complain about the nowadays' maps.
You cannot play wobluda or carpathian in 1s or 2s and be taken seriously... What about some smaller face to face maps?
Why not? First of all, I've never seen anyone playing carpathian in 1s. I've also never seen any rules for which maps are not allowed in a 2v2/3v3 etc. People are playing maps like these because it's FUN to play them. Sure, sometimes it's better to pick smaller, slower maps for 2s or 1s, cause it would be a 24/7 tradefest otherwise, in this point i agree with you. But on the other hand, smaller face to face maps are just boring for 90% of the community, since it's just spraying and sitting behind corners.
I remember these big maps with ice and more flags was always picked up by 2nd class players who couldnt win another way.. Thats the fact.
When was this? 2004? In my opinion ice maps like Tatras or Prolandr or maps like Renoir, Carp, castle1... are the hardest maps to learn in this game. You HAVE to be a decent jumper if you want to win there. Obviously the so called "2nd class players" were better jumpers, than the "oldschooler pros". I doubt, that the required skill on maps like pbcup or airtime is anywhere near to the skilllevel of the maps I've mentioned. I don't see how those players could be anywhere worse than those, who've played face-to-face maps. (Btw, didn't DaRk' match a lot on c1, even tho it's a 2-Flag-Map?)
Howgh.. And omg, you guys dont fight with every different opinion which appears on your little pond..
You are allowed to have your opinion, nobody says the opposite. But You should not complain about things you're not even taking part at and other players who are directly involved are fine with. Also, if you share your opinion you have to expect criticism and arguments, that are against your opinion.
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Ranger, it does seem like you are out of touch with the new meta of the game, heck it isn't even that new. People don't play oddjob or blitz anymore, but I will ask JMR about the possibility of replacing ruggedcountry and pp_sw with other, maybe oldschool, maps, to attract
the other
players you speak of.
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Okay, one more response to your questions..
Zenit, such a maps gives advantage only for a certain kind of players - Because not everybody is able to hit fast moving (flying) targets and its not always matter of practise. Which other players did I mean? Players from public servers for example.. Even those, who are not so active but from time to time they are reading forum..
On smaller maps you can learn some important lessons, like the ability of patience and clear concentration. Why are such a maps for you guys boring? Because you too much used to get everything fast.
"2nd class players" was not necessary better jumpers, others are able to do same jumps but thea know they are an easy target while jumping, thats all.. I didnt ment necessary pb_cup or airtime, it wouldnt be ideal maps for tournament.. More ways to flag is absolutely Ok, but without crazy speeds. I ment maps where your goal is not to grab a flag and trying to run as fast as you can and make 5 points because your opponent blocked somewhere.. thats not a clear victory in my opinion. Its true that DaRk played a lot maps like C1, etc.. But you know not everybody has mates with who can practise tactic and on smaller maps where you can rely more on your concentration, chances are beginning to ~ balance :) ... I admit some of your points, but some not
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When was this? 2004? In my opinion ice maps like Tatras or Prolandr or maps like Renoir, Carp, castle1... are the hardest maps to learn in this game. You HAVE to be a decent jumper if you want to win there. Obviously the so called "2nd class players" were better jumpers, than the "oldschooler pros".
I wouldn't say that you need special jump skills to play well on most maps you mentioned, certainly not on c1, carp or renoir where team play and some tactics are much more important and there are not so many difficult jumps. Believe me or not but those people you ironically call ''oldschooler pros'' knew how to jump.
I get Ranger's point because I myself don't like playing big maps in 2vs2 games, I believe that pace of the game on maps like carp, c1, renoir or tatras is much better and you have to show more skill when it's actually 3vs3. I remember that couple of years ago most people wouldn't think about choosing these maps in 2vs2 matches and if someone would it was irritating. Oh well, time changes and popularity and number of players in this game decreased which is probably a reason why people started playing these great maps in any game.
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I apologise for the poor maplist this tournament. It was all organised on the fly, last moment, so I did not bother to update the website with a new maplist, it was left over from my last 3v3 tournament.
I could hold another Global Maplist Vote (http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=27740.0) including perhaps some older maps.
I cannot please everyone. But I can try to listen to what the majority want. Feel free to send me a message with the maps which you'd like to see on the global maplist and I'll consider creating another poll including those maps.
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Doing a poll is a mistake JMR. Polls wont give you anything new. Tournament should be little different than ordinary matching scene.
In school you also dont vote from which subjects do you want to be examined to find out your level of knowledge. You have to choose the right maps.
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Good prank Rengar. If the community doesn't like maplist, why would they play it. In every game, there is community, which vote for maps, because the community plays the game. If there is tournament with poor map list for "camping skilled players" then expect low participation.
On maps like pforest (what is one of the best maps so far for matching) you have potential to use some team tactics, make timer for respawn and rescap, regrab etc. You have better potential to outplay enemy in 1v2, 1v3. Bigger maps, where u show ur individual skill in everything, jumps, aim, map knowledge etc. are good maps. Pbcup? LMAO u sit on flag in 1v3 and get ace because team is trying to grab a flag or they just kill u what is pointless in 1v3 scenario for only 1 point.
CSGO matchmaking maps, same tournament maps. LoL one summoners rift in ranked and tournaments, dafuq mate, get ur stuff together.
This what u talking right now is garbage.
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there are quite a few people, especially ones who played this game many many years ago who dont like the fact that matching scene is getting more and more into jumping and positioning game.
they may dont like that its not the game anymore where you sit behind shields or stand on some point and win by lining or shooting across like on shock.
it got more than that and jumping/positioning/timing require more skill than "old" players used to need in my opinion.
such a maps gives advantage only for a certain kind of players - Because not everybody is able to hit fast moving (flying) targets and its not always matter of practise.
surly ping makes a difference, but you shouldnt take it as an excuse aslong as its not on the level of an NA player on EU server or contravise. it is how it is and you cant change it, so just accept it.
there are also high-ping players who are really good.
i wanted to evade posting in this non-sense discussion, but meh..
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Ranger, your points don't make much sense. You seem to be saying that they dont like small maps because they don't play them. In reality they don't play them because they don't like them. You said 'don't do a poll because it won't give anything new', but that isn't what the majority want. You still haven't suggested any small maps that you would prefer to be in the maplist. The right approach is a balance between played and un-played maps, which is why rugged country is in the 3v3 maplist. If you want new maps in there, then please suggest them.
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You just showed how dumb you are if you consider yourselves as the whole community. And Im already bored with your constant crying about campers.. Show some self confident.. And look sometimes at maps from Jitspoe how he intended this game to look like.
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You just showed how dumb you are if you consider yourself as the whole community. And Im already bored with your constant crying about campers.. Show some self confident.. And look sometimes at maps from Jitspoe how he intended this game to look like.
This game has changed over time. Accept that.
Maps from jitspoe don't matter anymore as noone plays them.
All you're trying to do is justifying your "camping-behind-flag-playstyle" with "old times"
If everybody played like you the game would never end.
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Game didnt changed, only newbs stayed..
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Im glad i left before this statement was made... phew.. lucky me.
Btw has Rengar been nerfed recently ? It would explain the mood.. Anyways:
Runescape > dp .
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ROFL jeo
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You just showed how dumb you are if you consider yourselves as the whole community.
waitwhat? How is it dumb to call the players, who are matching+playing actively the whole community? What is your point here? If you want to change anything, get ACTIVE in the GAME and play MATCHES with maps YOU like. And stop crying about pointless excrement in the forums, it's getting ridiculous.
And look sometimes at maps from Jitspoe how he intended this game to look like.
Jitspoes old maps are not played anymore. Guess why? Right, the game has been changed, as kKd said. It is nowhere near the real-life-paintball, as it used to be. It evolved. That's nothing special, time changes things. It's always been like that and will ever be. You can not stop that process. If you can not accept it you should move on. Simple as that.
Game didnt changed, only newbs stayed..
im crying :D:D thats by far the greatest argument ive ever seen! you definetly do not contradict yourself here! i think you really got it! vote rengar! sorry, but i can't be serious here anymore, it's just way too ridiculous :D youre basically crying about everything everyone else likes, starting with frag-movies, over community and ends with maps. even_though_you_are_not_even_matching. do you really need that much attention? i mean it obviously works, so gg wp. either youre just a really good troll or youre actually serious. if you are serious id recommend to move to another game, would be better for your poor nerves.
- last post, since it's really senseless do discuss with you, Rengar. #betternerf
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#betternerf Rengar
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Ranger: " I remember these big maps with ice and more flags was always picked up by 2nd class players who couldnt win another way. "
there are quite a few people, especially ones who played this game many many years ago who dont like the fact that matching scene is getting more and more into jumping and positioning game.
btw, the top teams always been the best on a tactic level and the map they used to play were mostly big & jumping maps. So if you guys really believe that, then you are wrongs. The only moment they used to play smaller maps was for a tie choice so both team were on a more equal level in terms of possibilities as a tie map. (instead of nowadays where most of the teams just wana play their "homemap" as a tie decider, the fairplay on this game has only gone down but its not new. Neither the old or the young scene is better on a team comparison, i havnt seen any real progress in term of teamplay And there were already decent individual players back then. The only thing that really changed is the game physic and the ballspeed but the "decent players" has been raplaced by newer, its really rare to find a player that has kept the same top level on both era for obvious reasons.
Talking back about the tournament it was a bo1 format, even the final was a bo1 because it was super late. JMR made the tournament because there were a higher amount of players than usual so they decided to do something with it. But in all honesty i dont think it would have changed the results.
Its a pity to blame the results on the maplist since the maplist for tournaments has mainly been the same 10 map rotation over & over for more than 15 years ( not saying that its good, but everyteam know the map & gameplay of it for sure )
Ranger: " has Senix changed ? ".
Every players playing actively on the matching scene progress obviously. Senix has became one of the most talented players of NA and prooved it by playing among the european scene while being an equal to them if not better. ( i have not played in a while but i believe he will still be there as long as he is active. )
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Top maps for the tournament : pbcup, oddjob, shazam33. Yeah? @ranger
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ranger : i rember how senix use to play
like a beast xD i love yall!
Ranger : did i ever played vs you ? if not why you started talking about me and peppah then ?
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You are a newbs when you complain about campers.. Newbies do that Zenit... Oh, you will say that the game changed... Sorry man, some truth is universal and dont try to relativize that..
JeongWa... "Rengar".. What about some new nickname for you? I have got it.. "Mr. left the scene" ;) ...
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What do you expect ? You are pretty much calling any remaining player trash. You even mention nicknames of players that would beat you.. and even if they were not better, they atleast played the tournament (on EU servers.) so be atleast respectful to them. Most of the time i'm reading you on forum, its mostly to complain about something or someone while being arrogant but you got nothing to back it up. Do some constructive criticism instead of doing pre-made sentences, Come and play the game in order to call us trash and maybe i'll consider giving credit to your says.
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I said everything what I wanted. If you want constructive criticism, then read between the lines.
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you a biiiitccchhh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix1dMTj3qXw#t=0m15s
btch btch btch
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:) This is so hard not to react.. JeongWa I sometimes forget when you were nice guy you werent in adolescence age yet.
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(http://i.imgur.com/UcprxtC.png)
inb4banLUL
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lmao
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(http://i.imgur.com/UcprxtC.png)
inb4banLUL
LMAO
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You just showed how dumb you are if you consider yourselves as the whole community. And Im already bored with your constant crying about campers.. Show some self confident.. And look sometimes at maps from Jitspoe how he intended this game to look like.
You mean, the game that would have been dead years ago? A game that is focused on strategic, slow-pace gameplay, and 1 shot kill? Remove 1 shot kill, and you have CoD and every other better-quality game out there.
DP evolved into what it is today. And this evolving is the ONLY reason it has ANY players still playing. The 'slow-pace' game died over a decade ago. Why is this conversation even happening right now? Are you angry that you cannot keep up. A lot of games evolve into games that are not the same as the original vision the developers had, but you have to go with it to keep the game alive - pleasing the majority is how you make a game. It's a 1-hit-kill capture the flag game, it makes complete sense to be focused on jumping, as it should be difficult (which it really isn't) to hit people.
DP has managed to stay alive for like 2 decades, that's more than almost any game out there. And that is because the game has changed drastically, with the help of the community (some great mappers), which kept people entertained, and increased the learning curve to give players a reason to play. Static games die - and you seem to lack the basic understanding of how the game grew.
But hey, I guess it's a good thing you don't have control over the game. Most tournaments in the past have had voting for map lists, and the same maps would come out on top.
Good mappers and unique physics are what kept this game alive.
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Evolving is not always synonym for something possitive. And Im not really ashamed of cannot keeping up with others, Im not ready yet to develop an attention deficite disorder what is exactly where this leads to.
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Evolving is not always synonym for something possitive. And Im not really ashamed of cannot keeping up with others, Im not ready yet to develop an attention deficite disorder what is exactly where this leads to.
Wow... I think I lost some brain cells reading this... but I'm bored enough to respond.
Evolving is not always synonymous to positive, sure - but that's also subjective. So, it actually is pretty but always synonymous to someone - and if it's positive to the majority, you can assume its overall a positive outcome. By that logic, which - is pretty sound logic, the game lasting this two decades would suggest the evolution was positive. You realize if arenaball and those types of maps were the way the game should be played, then people would have stuck around playing those games. People PREFERRED faster pace, that's why people played it - if the majority preferred slower pace maps, they would have kept happily playing it. So uhh... yeah... I'd say in this case, its pretty intercoursen obvious that it is a synonym for something positive.
You being unable to keep up is a result of you lacking the skill. I mean, I've been around for a decade, and know plenty of people who have been around for 15+ years, and never have I once heard someone say "wow Ranger is good". Like, you're someone nobody knows who couldn't keep up in any meta of the game.
Also, if you're going to try to bring up forms of mental illness your poor argument, you should know "ADD" is not actually a thing. There is no such thing as attention deficit disorder. Your statement also contradicts itself - because just by words, having attention deficit disorder would mean you can't hold your attention span down, which would mean you can't keep concentrated to learn the new things of jumping/speed etc... So, by you "not having" this fabricated illness, you should be at an advantage, no? You should easily be able to out class the majority of this game.
But anyways, that was fun to respond to. You're just some never-was who pretends hes a has-been and spends so much time arguing about the game to hope new players think you were something talented at one time. But in a game that's only alive from people who play 5+ years, you're just some annoying person who I really hope is a troll, otherwise you're just retarded.
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PogChamp
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Ok Myers, you say this evolving kept the game alive, but you havent any proof for that. In fact there is less players than ever before. Logically thinking person would consider exact opposite of what you are saying is true..
My skill level is not lower than yours or anybody here. Its not any science to play well with a good connection and low traffic. Everybody knows that, it seems only you guys on forum had felt into that illusion that you are somehow special..
And I never heard about your nickname, so its fair.
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Lets just sit around a table in a pub, order pints & celebrate the wonderful thing that is life with a friendly atmosphere.
(no need to arg on who is better.. its really pointless gaming is for fun after all)
Cheers.
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Okay, i could't keep staying away, your bs just got me again Ranger.
Ok Myers, you say this evolving kept the game alive, but you havent any proof for that. In fact there is less players than ever before. Logically thinking person would consider exact opposite of what you are saying is true..
Yes, ofc, every logically thinking person would consider the game's evolution is, what made players leaving. It's definetly not the fact, that most of the older players grew older, got family, got carreers (you're obviously not one of them, otherwise you wouldn't find time to post useless nonsense here). Nope, it's definetly the changed gamestyle. Also, nobody would think about playing other games which had better graphics, a story or tons of players. No, why'd that be a reason, right? I mean, evolution is a bad thing, as you say, so the evolution of the Gaming-Sector must be bad too. Better hardware, better games, better everything. Ew, right?
My skill level is not lower than yours or anybody here.
I like your jokes :D Makes your serious posts more fun to read! Keep it up!
Its not any science to play well with a good connection and low traffic. Everybody knows that, it seems only you guys on forum had felt into that illusion that you are somehow special..
And another one! Oh, you little troll you! This is comlpete bs. Every decent player can keep his level even with high ping. Give them a bit time to get used to it and they will be almost equal to their low-ping-skill. Ofc it limits them a bit, but looking to Senix, shk and other high-ping players on eu servers can easily compete to eu players and vice versa. Also I'm thinking of Shep, who was a player from Australia (correct me if im wrong). He had always around 300-400 ping and still could keep up. Also the brazilian community, Hox, Minerva etc. All of them didn't really struggle even tho their ping was 200-300. If you would play matches, you'd know that. But well, you're rather talking complete senseless trash in forums, trying to get noticed.
Still trying to figure out if you are really serious with strong limited mindset or just a great troll.
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Oh really? Im trying to get noticed Zenit? Im typing relatively briefly, look who is typing the whole stories.. Its not me.. .. For your information, I didnt talk about ping, but about quality of connection and net traffic, read it again. Ping is only theoretical information and says nothing about how playable the game for each player is.
And before I end posting to this topic, I said some not nice words about JeongWa, I appologize for that.
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So basically you are only responding to one of the points I've made, since you obviously wouldn't find arguments for the others. Yes, just ignore like 90% of my arguments and pick out the easiest to argue on. Well played sir. I don't really understand, how only "quality of connection and net traffic" can make the diffrence between good, average and bad players. This game is not about about good connection at all. If you want to be good, you have to outsmart and outplay your opponent, which is the case in almost every competitive game, looking at CS, League or Dota. In DP it's prediction, lining, thinking about ways your opponent could go, how to counter his gameplay, things that could happen in 1v3, 1v1 and so on. 50% is about using your brain, 45% is about jumping and aim (rhymeskills onpoint). Maybe 5% is about connection/ping/hardware. That's how I see it. Also, my "whole stories" are here just for you, trying to make you understand this whole thing, which clearly isn't the case. Well, I tried.
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Ranger, basically what I see in your sentences is you talking bs about other players or talking big about yourself. Can you back it up? Get server if yes. If you will loose with 30 pts difference or less I will consider that as your win.
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Ok Myers, you say this evolving kept the game alive, but you havent any proof for that. In fact there is less players than ever before. Logically thinking person would consider exact opposite of what you are saying is true..
And I never heard about your nickname, so its fair.
177 posts says never heard of person with 1570 posts.... hmm wonder who the newbie around here is. Not to mention, my participation and majority winning of all tournaments in the last decade...
Anyways, wheres my proof? Are you illiterate? My proof is this post, and your post, and every player whos playing a game thats 2 decades old. Thats my proof about evolution of this game - the majority has always controlled the direction of the game - because this game is only controlled by the player base. Small things like ball speed change etc.. may have caused some people to quit, but the community dictates the maps, they own the servers, etc.etc.. that the majority rules in this game. Therefore, any changes that aren't done by Jitspoe are always done by majority preference - which allowed the game to get this far. Sure, its pretty dead, but it had no business being alive the last 7 or so years
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Firstly, it gives me no pleasure beating you Squeeze.. Secondly, Zenit, Myers: I understand you are happy when is somebody talking with you and for a moment takes your nonsenses seriously, lesson learned
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peace & love, we are all equal
edit: #luckiesclubisback#myersyourewelcome#missedyou
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177 posts says never heard of person with 1570 posts.... hmm wonder who the newbie around here is.
I can confirm we have been going through bullexcrement with Myers since multiple years. Myers' e-peen definitely is bigger!
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tbh looking back, my favourite matches were against uR on blitz. Well, not when they were aimbotting I guess.
I added this because I am the supreme leader of Australia.
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tbh looking back, my favourite matches were against uR on blitz. Well, not when they were aimbotting I guess.
I added this because I am the supreme leader of Australia.
zpar11beta_betazpar11 is #1
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Supreme leader of Australia approves
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Supreme leader of Australia approves
Kim Jong-Un is that you?