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Digital Paint Community => Other Stuff => Topic started by: SkateR on October 11, 2006, 05:59:58 PM
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Jitspoe gave me the idea..
Anyways, I for one think it is pretty evident that the moonlanding was staged. I'm sure you hardcore Americans will disagree, but I think this video deffinetely proves it was fake.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1138935117048624484&q=moon+landing+conspiracy
Watch it all the way through, its very interesting and has some great points.
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I've watched the intro and some more so far.
THERE IS ATMOSPHERE ON THE MOON, RETARD! That old guy no longer has any credibility.
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I've watched the intro and some more so far.
THERE IS ATMOSPHERE ON THE MOON, RETARD! That old guy no longer has any credibility.
Actually, there is no atmosphere on the moon..
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Some very interesting attempts at dis crediting what was very real event. Anyone can take a film, add their own words and obviously appeal to the most gullible of minds.
I was very young when this event took place but I remember it clearly. Back then we only had up wards of maybe 8 TV channels. Cameras weren't near as powerful as they are today. We had to get up off our asses to change the TV channels instead of using a remote because they had not yet been invented.
I remember the anticipation of waiting for the capsule to re-appear in earth's atmosphere on the old black and white TV and how excited we were when we saw the chutes open.
If one takes the time to do a little research rather than be consumed by such ignorance they can get to the truth. Like most things, there are 2 sides to every story and things aren't always as some choose to make them seem.
There are many sites that rebut such feeble attempts as the above video and this is but one :
http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/news/2001/news-moonlanding.asp
I'm sure there are many more but I already know it happened because I was alive at the time and witnessed it. Believe what you want but don't be fooled by everything you see and hear.
Oh and for the record there is NO wind on the moon and there is no atmosphere eiii so look in the mirror before you throw that tard card.
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I'm sure there are many more but I already know it happened because I was alive at the time and witnessed it. Believe what you want but don't be fooled by everything you see and hear.
Don't be fooled by everything we see and hear and yet you say that you know it happend because you where there and witnessed it(on TV.)
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Not just because.... And I wasn't fooled because I have taken the time to research this. I suggest any fool that believes the above hoax get off their asses and do the same.
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I didn't watch this video, but I had seen a really good one that DirtyTaco pasted on mIRC.
The one he posted has me thinking that the whole thing was fake.
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Not just because.... And I wasn't fooled because I have taken the time to research this. I suggest any fool that believes the above hoax get off their asses and do the same.
Wait, do you think it was a hoax or real....?
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The mission actually happened... The video above is a hoax or I should say a clear mis-representation of the facts.
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Well then if your all into believing it, give me some facts.
And of course the link above is to a government controlled web-site.
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Search for your own facts lazy butt... I need no further convincing. ;D Oh and government controlled or not it explains many valid points that aren't up for dispute... try reading it...
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rotflmao here's the puke bucket!
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The video is all government aquired videos from the landing/launch etc. It was aired on fox, therefor it is not fake footage. Nothing was toyed with. It's clearly fake, there is no proof they DID land on the moon. Why can't we see any of the objects they left on the moon? the rover? the flag? If we can get pictures of pluto, we can get pictures of the flag on the moon.
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I'd say it's pretty meddling obvious that this thing never happened. What happened to the 500,000 pounds of thrust that the moon lander module landed with? Wouldn't there be a blast crater...? No stars are represented in the video, and the flag waving should be enough. The deserts surrounding area 51 look exactly like the "moon" that the astronauts walk across. Come on now.
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The footage is original... the commentary is not... I'll leave you with your research.
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i found the 2x speed the most convincing piece of the haox.
the speed it was aired on looked like lower gravity, 2x looked like everyday walking and driving.
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It;s all pretty conclusive
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Conclusive for naive and gullible fools... Try these sites for more explanation... these are non governmental sites for those of you who think it's a government conspiracy... Good lord some of you are so lazy... do some research good gawd.
Less than 10 minutes research:
The Flag and Rover: http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=134
More Explanations of the facts:
http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/
The all famous Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moon_Landing_hoax_accusations
There are tons of sites with facts that prove your so called conspiracy a hoax and "The hoax claims are widely dismissed as baseless by mainstream scientists, technicians and engineers, as well as by NASA" (Wikipedia)
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Picasso, I guarantee you if they were to send some sort of orbital telescope around the moon they could find the flag or rovar. They landed a meddling robot on mars for god sakes, its not impossible. So No, your links prove nothing.
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They could... I suppose if they felt the need... but are you so ignorant to think they would waste millions just to prove your foolish conspiracy theory wrong... I can see it now in the headlines "NASA FTW at the cost of millions"
The few sites I have looked up prove and explain everything my little gullible friend. You have one almost convincing conspiracy video which is nothing more than a pathetic hoax. Instead of further making a fool of yourself, try READING THE MATERIAL I've already took the time to hunt down for you... You'll find you actually made a mistake unless you're smarter than the leaders of many other countries during the time, mainstream scientists, technicians and engineers, and the people from NASA.
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yeah, and I'm sure wikipedia is the most trustworthy source ever.
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yeah, and I'm sure wikipedia is the most trustworthy source ever.
Probably government operated... (NOT)
Go find your own sites... Research it a bit... don't be so lazy!!!
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yeah, and I'm sure wikipedia is the most trustworthy source ever.
actually, it sorta is.
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Must have been the Russians that put this on the moon...
http://www.firstscience.com/site/articles/moon.asp
What an enjoyable debate Skater... Thanks ;D
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Actually, what happened is that they did make it to the moon, but there were aliens there! Yeah! And the reason they're all so secretive is because they don't want anybody to find out!
I mean.... aliens, for crying out loud. Freaking UFOs were hovering around them! Of course they had to doctor the photos up! That's where the other light sources came from. It all makes sense now!
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicphotos.html
I didn't actually bother reading through the site, but what I saw was just as convincing as those videos.
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Anyone can take a film, add their own words and obviously appeal to the most gullible of minds.
Michael Moore. GG.
People are going to believe what they want. Religion or lack of. Proof or lack of.
Not to discredit anyone but lets think. The person disputing this did not put the money and effort searching for real proof. Pics of the landing zone with the most advance technology. It could have been done that way. Lets say he is telling the truth. He watches what he thinks is unedited or authentic tapes that came from allegedly the government and makes very hard argument. He also could have authenticated his proof with interviews of the government official who released the tape that was not done.
The video is all government acquired videos from the landing/launch etc.
That can be debated.
It was aired on fox, therefor it is not fake footage
::) I will ignore that statement.
"We sail through endless skies
stars shine like eyes
the black night sighs
The moon in silver trees
falls down in tears
light of the night
The earth, a purple blaze
of sapphire haze
in orbit always
While down below the trees
bathed in cool breeze
silver starlight breaks down the night
And so we pass on by the crimson eye
of great god Mars
as we travel the universe"
As this song shows I have astral projection. This song also proves that Neal Armstrong does not like puppies because there are none depicted with its ears blowing in a windless environment that has no atmosphere.
I thought the moon had a gravitational pull. It does which means that it attracts matter in all its forms. Solid, gaseous etc etc. Having a pull allows it to collect more mass and and also retain it. This mass includes a gaseous a layer. Does that constitute an atmosphere? I was taught technically yes.
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I thought the video SkateR posted was sweet. Honestly, how do you explain the flag waving in the wind?
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I hope that was sarcasm. THERE IS ATMOSPHERE ON THE MOON.
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Ok, these are such desperate grasps at straws, it's probably not worth replying to. If you find these videos convincing, then there's probably no amount of real evidence that would convince you otherwise.
- Mr. Someguy says "It wasn't possible." and pulls some figure out of his anus. That's not evidence. That's opinion (which was very one-sided through the whole video. How much time did the NASA representative get? Like 10 seconds?). "We didn't have the technology." I strongly disagree there. Even John Carmack says building a rocket can be done with mostly parts from your local hardware store and the technology hasn't changed for years. It's not that complicated. You need two basic things: hardware and an understanding of physics. They had those.
- The flag wasn't flapping in the wind. It was swinging back and forth because the guy was twisting the post all over the place. The segment was so short, I don't see how you can draw any conclusion from that. If it were staged and edited, don't you think they'd do a retake on that anyway if the flag were fluttering about? Notice how the bottom of the flag floated all the way up past the top and slowly came back down? That wasn't because of the wind; it was the low gravity. There was no wind. If there were wind, you'd see all the dust on the ground flying around, too.
- No blast crater. The moon's gravity is much lower than earths, and if you watch the video, the craft drifts quite a bit after they cut the engines off.
- No dust settling on the craft. Come on now. Think about it. This shows how clueless these people really are. It's like they expect this huge cloud of dust to fly up and then slowly settle down on the craft. Guess what. There's no air on the moon. Dust falls at the same speed as a bowling ball. It all fell back to the ground promptly after it was stirred up. If the craft were covered in dust, I'm sure some conspiracy theorist would come up with a theory explaining why that couldn't happen, either.
- Objects lit even though they were in shadow. Ok, this is just sad. Have they never heard of radiosity before? The moon is a very light color. It reflects light. So much light, in fact, that it can provide enough light to see allllll the way back on Earth some nights. And they think that's not enough reflected light to light up an astronaut?
- Multiple light sources claim. If you actually pay attention to where they drew the lines, you'll notice they don't actually line up with the shadows. Not only that, but they imply that there were multiple light sources. If you have multiple light sources, you have multiple shadows. There weren't multiple shadows, therefore, there couldn't have been multiple light sources.
- Objects showing up on top of crosshairs (or whatever you call them). Take a look at some high-resolution NASA photographs. You'll notice those crosshair marks are slightly translucent. If you have a really bright light (such as the sun shining directly on an object with not atmosphere to filter it), the light will bleed through enough to look completely white.
- Same mountains in the background. Have you ever been somewhere and seen mountains in the background? What happens when you move, say across the street? Down the block? A few streets away? Those same mountains still show up in the background. Apparently this is a foreign concept to some people.
- Footage of the same location. Apparently this was mislabeled.
- Speed the video up and it looks like Earth's gravity. I can speed my voice up and sound like a chipmunk. Does that mean I'm really a chipmunk slowing my voice down
- Fox showed it, so it must be true. Remember the Alien Autopsy? http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,4038,00.html
Meh, enough of that. I assume SkateR was just trying to be funny, but I had to get that off my chest in case anybody actually believed those conspiracy theories.
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Honestly, how do you explain the flag waving in the wind?
First how do you explain the authentication process to which you conclude that this is in its original format?
1. Edited. Likely.
2. Exhaust? IDK didn't see the flag waving.
We are be shown something to which we can not reference its original content nor can we authenticate it. We recognize it as something we have seen over and over.
Michael Moorish
If there were wind, you'd see all the dust on the ground flying around, too.
Nice post a valid points. This should be simple enough to understand.
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- Speed the video up and it looks like Earth's gravity. I can speed my voice up and sound like a chipmunk. Does that mean I'm really a chipmunk slowing my voice down
I'm a chipmunk....
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Once again, The videos were not editted. They were aired on fox, do you honestly think they would put editted videos of the moon landing?
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Skater, it doesnt matter if its fox, abc, or even your local public access channel, tv networks will do anything for more viewers. If you look at it from fox's perspective, there are very few people who would take the time to go back and find accuracies in the program, and then there are even more few people who would have the voice to call them out on it. Even then it is possible for fox to just ignore it and everyone forget about it. Just because you saw it on tv does not mean it is real or accurate. I am not saying that this is what happened in this particular case, however it is possible none the less.
Anyway, jitspoe debunked most of those theorys. As does http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/.
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Perhaps if there were evidence present, I could be swayed, but 90% of the video is BS that completely discredits anything else they say, and after a little research, the other 10% can be explained.
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DirtyTaco: If you still have it, could you post that video you showed me some time in the summer about the moon landing hoax. I just want to watch it again after watching this Fox one. If you don't have it anywhere then it doesn't matter.
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if it was fake there is no way that government would have allowed that video to air on fox... thats the main thing to think about..
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Well I will add my 2 cents here.
Back in the late 70's while still in High School, I took several trips to observatories in California ( mount Wilson) that were set up to bounce laser light off the surface of the moon, hit a reflector placed there by an Apollo mission, and reflected back to earth to monitor variations in the moon's orbit.
Read More Here (http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEhelp/ApolloLaser.html)
As I was a first hand witness to these testing procedures at the observatory, I do believe that we have landed on the moon. But then I never doubted it to begin with.
What's great about this country is that everyone is allowed to have his or her own opinion on anything. As long as no one belittles another about his or her beliefs or opinions, I will listen to what anyone has to say.
except....
anyone that doesn't want to see me in speedos....
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loial/picasso: both seem to be gun-toting conservatives and from the south. Both grew up when the moon landing actually happened and probably have fond memories of it bringing together the American society. No amount of evidence to the contrary would sway these two.
The only correct part of the above quote is that I was alive during the actual event.
For your information I have watched that video in full 2 X's from this forum and live on the FOX channel when this ridiculous conspiracy theory transpired. I listened to both sides then, did a little research then came to the same conclusion that over 89% people polled came too that this was nothing more than an ignorant hoax.
Just for the sake of this forum post, I searched for sites that help explain why and how the moon landing conspiracy was just a hoax. This is but one conspiracy theory and there are 100s of websites that contradict it's validity.
Your analogy of me is quiet amusing and typical of a kid who doesn't take the time to think before he blurts out such baseless innuendos.
How you gather from this entire thread that I seem to be a gun-toting conservative from the south and that I cannot be swayed by evidence to the contrary is beyond me. I was swayed by the preponderance of the evidence after researching both sides. Not sucked in by the single ridiculous theory
I did my homework chump and it's obvious by your seemingly "know it all" attempt at judging the users of this board rather than sticking to the subject matter at hand that you forgot to do yours.
The question is do you believe there was a conspiracy or not... Otherwise run along and go pass judgment elsewhere...
except....
anyone that doesn't want to see me in speedos....
Hilarious!!
Knack can I borrow your gun?? I only have a pellet gun for shooting squirrels...
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Lmao, picasso you're getting way to riled up buddy. It's clearly fake, I don't care about your stupid links. They wouldn't meddling edit video and put it on national television. If they did, I'm sure it would have been said somewhere. How can you even say the people in the videos don't know what they're talking about. I had never once thought of the moonlanding to be fake until I saw that show on fox a long time ago. I was young though, so I didn't really pay attention. Then I got interested in all of that stuff (space, etc) and I re-watched it. At that point I had some knowledge of the stuff and I agreed with everything said in the video. I found the evidence to be completely reassuring of a fake landing.
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In the famous words of Darkness I'll say "Nice Try" Skater... I'm not riled up in the least. The fact that you refer to the links I've taken the time to provide for you as "stupid" merely magnifies your stupidity 10 fold. I never said they edited the video. You claim it's clearly a fake landing but you're too lazy, ignorant and obviously illiterate to take the time to do a little research, letting actual facts prove to you that you might be mistaken. There are two sides to most stories but unless you're willing to look at ALL the evidence of both sides then you can't come to a fair conclusion.
If you're still convinced the mission was faked, you are of a tiny minority that does because the majority of people just aren't that gullible.
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ORLY you can't sway my opinion like your alcohol sways yours LOZLOLZ
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Hahahaha pure ignorance and immaturity... Impressive Shane.. Nice work... ::)
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i found the 3 astronauts who died in a simulator fire kind of suspicious.
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As did I so I read up on it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_1 then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_1#Cause
Wiki is probably behind the conspiracy as well... ;D
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From what distance, exactly?
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He's on the moon. Wait, no. He's viewing the moon. And it's no celestial body.
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Maybe he can find the flag and rover that other people can't seem to find. OH WAIT LOLZ ITS FAKE!!!
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wow Picasso, getting a little worked up there.
But I must say, I highly doubt you sat there and researched this for hours as you seem to portray, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
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Its ok Doug, some posters have a clear agenda. Poorly educated personal assumptions on forum members.
Both grew up when the moon landing actually
.. :o ...blinks... :o TACO WHAT!
That is really old Taco, ancient infact for example thats like s8n / knackish old. I am more like a sexy young buck Derrek old. You really don't know me do you? How quaint.
No amount of evidence to the contrary would sway these two.
Is that a fact? Nope. Sounds like another lack of urgency to be correct when making a statement. I would be convinced if this was done correctly. Authentic documents do not exist with hand me down clips from the government during that or any period in recent history.
http://dpball.com/forums/index.php?topic=3687.msg42186#msg42186
Doug Said :)
I never said they edited the video
Skater that was me bro. I said it was edited before they got it. The intelligence community ALWAYS alters sensitive content for asset protection before declassifying it. The reason was and is logical. That way certain facts are only known to a select few. Psst There was a thing called the cold war. Or so we were told.
There was no revolution, only revolutionaries.
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wow Picasso, getting a little worked up there.
Lmao, Picasso you're getting way to riled up buddy.
Awe how cute baiting twins! How old are they?
-5 Originality or if you perfer Monkey see Monkey do.
But I must say, I highly doubt you sat there and researched this for hours as you seem to portray,
I am so proud that you can doubt someone else and manage to completely avoid any counter logic to valid points made to contradict this footage. That must be really difficult and not easily done. Can you teach me to be a doubting thomas?
::)
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Speaking of getting worked up, Lila... :P
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Touche :-[ + ;)
Well it needed to be pointed out that not one person could contradict Jitspoe's post. I also followed up why posts like that with out a helpful or educational point is well pointless.
For example in blue.
"You are this way" "Because I say so." Wow any justification or logic that helped you form such an obtuse opinion of a stranger. I perfer to get to know someone over time before I pass judgment. Assumptive statements need to be claimed as such and not a presented as facts.
"I doubt you" and?
Several short examples of posts with no urgency to accuracy or class.
Ps I am far from perfect. Thanks for pointing that out. Over and over and over and over and over and over :)
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wow Picasso, getting a little worked up there.
But I must say, I highly doubt you sat there and researched this for hours as you seem to portray, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
It didn't come close to hours and I never said it took hours... Don't even begin to think you know me that well...
Loial... Hahaha Reply #55 (baiting twins) Well thought out post and accurate. It's amazing how one can start a thread like this and so few offer any sort of a productive response to it's content. They spend more time name calling, judging others, starting flamefests and mis-representing the facts at hand much like the idiots that came up with this conspiracy idea to begin with. The only difference here is that many in this thread are incapable of carrying out an intelligent and mature conversation.
At least the original people who believed this to be a conspiracy in the first place weren't immature about it. They attempted to make their points, many of which are very convincing however mis-guided they may have been and they voiced their beliefs with respect towards others.
Sadly they only convinced a tiny minority...
(Jitspoe the spell checker doesn't know the word towards)
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I haven't been immature at all until you started attacking me. Calling me ignorant and more. I made this thread to see peoples opinions about it, not to see your stupid rants about people being dumb for thinking its fake.
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not to see your stupid rants about people being dumb for thinking its fake.
Rants??? I take the time to provide factual material to the contrary of this OLD conspiracy theory and you call that material stupid without even taking the time to go view it yourself. The basis of all my replies to this thread are not to attack you and I'm not ranting.
What makes anyone "ignorant" is blatantly accepting a theory like this based on one video without taking the time to research it a bit first.
It is as ignorant as the concept of "guilty until proven innocent" It is an insult to those that took part in one of the greatest events of mankind to have to defend themselves against such an accusation.
If a person does not take the time to look at both sides to a story or in your case call the links I provided to the contrary of your beliefs without even taking the time to look at them "stupid" then that would make you "Ignorant"
ig•no•rant \"ig-n(e-)rent\ adjective (14c)
1 a : destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society>; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics>
b : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>
2 : unaware, uninformed
ig•no•rant•ly adverb
ig•no•rant•ness noun
Synonyms
ignorant, illiterate, unlettered, untutored, unlearned mean not having knowledge. ignorant may imply a general condition or it may apply to lack of knowledge or awareness of a particular thing <an ignorant fool> <ignorant of nuclear physics>. illiterate applies to either an absolute or a relative inability to read and write <much of the population is still illiterate>. unlettered implies ignorance of the knowledge gained by reading <an allusion meaningless to the unlettered>. untutored may imply lack of schooling in the arts and ways of civilization <strange monuments built by an untutored people>. unlearned suggests ignorance of advanced subjects <poetry not for academics but for the unlearned masses>.
(C)1996 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved.
Not a rant, Not an attack... Just a fact.
It is of my opinion that anyone who believes the moon landing was a fake, is a gullible, ignorant mis-guided fool. If you take that as an attack I'm sorry but you asked for our opinions.
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I think the fact that this is so unclear is actually quite great. Not only do you all discuss in this board about this (to the game completely unrelated) stuff, but even in american highschools, this is a topic woth talking about :)
I remember taking US History classes and having a discussion about this topic there. The teacher even provided us with tons of facts providing points pro and contra a fake, quite interesting thing to talk about, isn't it? On the other hand, it doesn't really matter nowadays, but in the 70s, I bet this was a very important argument between the americans and the russians, as at that time, it was of high importance to show the world who is the technological leader (and the russians beat the americans into space). :)
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Interesting indeed b00n although I haven't found any information that there was an argument about this between America and Russia. According to Wiki, -The first book dedicated to the subject, William Kaysing's self-published "We Never Went to the Moon: America's Thirty Billion Dollar Swindle" was released in 1974, two years after the Apollo moon flights had ceased.- 5 years after the moon mission.
The Russians beat us to outer space and we beat them to the Moon... Seems like a ridiculous thing to worry about in my opinion. Both required an abundant amount of intelligence and technical savvy.
At the time all I cared about was where in the hell was my bicycle and mmmm what was momma cookin that smelt so good!!
I wonder how much time loial spends trying to make his posts sounds intelligent.
With remarks like this, I wonder when your's will... You're now 2 for 2 in this thread alone yet you haven't offered anything remotely close to your opinion of the actual subject matter. Instead ONLY your judgments of the people replying to this thread.
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I highly doubt you sat there and researched this for hours
No need. 90+% of that video can be debunked simply by some common sense while you're watching it. Explanations for the rest can be found within just a few minutes.
(Jitspoe the spell checker doesn't know the word towards)
The correct word is "toward".
Anyway, if you prefer videos, watch this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4166049933953240830&q=moon
Then explain how they supposedly staged all of that. I'd like to hear the conspiracy theory explanation from about 9:20 to 11:30.
Notice at 16:05, once the flag is securely planted, it does not move at all.
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1to•ward \"to(-e)rd, "to(-e)rd\ adjective [ME toward, fr. OE toweard facing, imminent, fr. to, prep., to + -weard -ward] (bef. 12c)
1 also to•wards \"to(-e)rdz, "to(-e)rdz\ [ME towardes, fr. OE toweardes, prep., toward, fr. toweard, adj.] a : coming soon : imminent
b : happening at the moment : afoot
2 a obs : quick to learn : apt
b : propitious, favoring <a toward breeze>
(C)1996 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved.
#1. also towards
Do I need a new dictionary this one is 10 years old? LOL
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The US spelling "toward". "towards" is just thrown in there as an "also" because so many people spelled it wrong (mostly in Britan, I think). ;)
Edit: Meh, whatever. Keep going forwards with your weird spelling variations, but I can't add anything to the dictionary. I wonder if "theatre" is in there. Nope. It's because it's using US English.
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1the•ater or the•atre \"the-e-ter, "thi-e-, oftenest in Southern "the-'a- also the-"a-\ noun [ME theatre, fr. MF, fr. L theatrum, fr. Gk theatron, fr. theasthai to view, fr. thea act of seeing; akin to Gk thauma miracle] (14c)
1 a : an outdoor structure for dramatic performances or spectacles in ancient Greece and Rome
b : a building for dramatic performances
c : a building or area for showing motion pictures
2 : a place or sphere of enactment of usu. significant events or action <the theater of public life>
3 a : a place rising by steps or gradations <a woody theater of stateliest view — John Milton>
b : a room often with rising tiers of seats for assemblies (as for lectures or surgical demonstrations)
4 a : dramatic literature : plays
b : dramatic representation as an art or profession : drama
5 a : dramatic or theatrical quality or effectiveness
b : spectacle 1a
(C)1996 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved.
Watching your last video... Brings back a lot of memories... seems I've seen this one in elementry school, science... Good stuff and good job finding it. Thanks
- I found the part where they are placing medals in honor of Russian astronauts along with those of our own astronauts who had died in their efforts to go to outerspace quiet compelling. A mission of mankind for PEACE was demonstrated and the samples they brought back analyzed by many other countries. No arguments or doubts came from any of them to my knowledge.
Then 5 years later this conspiracy is born?
Very educational stuff...
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True. If they never went to the moon, where did the hundreds of pounds of moon rocks (http://www.cas.usf.edu/~jryan/moonrocks.html) come from?
Also, in all the moon videos, watch how clouds of dust are kicked up by the lunar lander, astronauts running around, etc. Oh, wait. There aren't any. The dust falls immediately back to the surface since there's no atmosphere. Compare that to dust on earth (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1445581354111769690&q=lunar).
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I am so proud that you can doubt someone else and manage to completely avoid any counter logic to valid points made to contradict this footage. That must be really difficult and not easily done. Can you teach me to be a doubting thomas?
Who said I was disagreeing with him, I was just stating the fact that he seems to want everyone to think he sat there and researched this for hours.
But maybe that was your attempt at an insult. :-\
Not just because.... And I wasn't fooled because I have taken the time to research this. I suggest any fool that believes the above hoax get off their asses and do the same.
The footage is original... the commentary is not... I'll leave you with your research.
Good lord some of you are so lazy... do some research good gawd.
Go find your own sites... Research it a bit... don't be so lazy!!!
I did my homework chump
And why are you copying a bunch of definitions... links would suit the situation just fine.
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Who said I was disagreeing with him, I was just stating the fact that he seems to want everyone to think he sat there and researched this for hours.
Another blind interpretation. You assume too much and still offer nothing to the actual subject at hand. Why would I give a dam if readers knew how long I took to research anything... You're just runnin at the mouth and nothing but hot air is coming out.
Try learning basic reading comprehension and don't waste our time assuming you know anything about me.
Again stick to the subject at hand and if you can't handle that then you need to move on.
All I've tried to do is get some of the readers in this thread to go do their own research... It's obvious to me that you have a comprehension problem because through all mine as well as many other's replies in this thread, you're too IGNORANT to get it...
And why are you copying a bunch of definitions... links would suit the situation just fine.
I pasted many links earlier in this thread but they clearly didn't suit you now run along little kiddie... You're annoying
Oh hell I'm riled now!! LOL ;D
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True. If they never went to the moon, where did the hundreds of pounds of moon rocks (http://www.cas.usf.edu/~jryan/moonrocks.html) come from?
Ummm, you ought to see all the darn rocks my dawgs dig up.
unF!!!
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And old speedos... Ewwwww :P
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Mooo-n Bad!!! Earth Good!
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Also, in all the moon videos, watch how clouds of dust are kicked up by the lunar lander, astronauts running around, etc. Oh, wait. There aren't any. The dust falls immediately back to the surface since there's no atmosphere. Compare that to dust on earth (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1445581354111769690&q=lunar).
Theeeeeeeere isssssssssss atmosphereeeee onnnnnnnnn theeeeeeeee moooooooon. Just not very much.
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Theeeeee Moooon ALMOST haaaaaaas an atmosphereeeeeeeee...
http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/earth/moon/lunar_atm.html&edu=elem
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Just not very much.
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I do believe there are molecules of mass in the form of gas on the moons surface. If not I can simply go there and fart and still be correct. :o
"There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark."
The lunatic is in my head. >:(
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All dark all the time??
Doesn't it have a day and a night just like earth does um sometimes? LOL Only it gets a hell of a lot hotter during the day and a hell of a lot colder at night?
Mean surface temperature (day) 107°C
Mean surface temperature (night) -153°C
Maximum surface temperature 123°C
Minimum surface temperature -233°C
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It seems to be a sort of normative standard that dissenting views about traditional 'values' always hold sway in younger minds (unless of course they've been brainwashed).
...and that is something very positive. Sometimes people forget to doubt the things they hear (from other people/people with more authority than others), read (newspaper/Books), see (TV), etc. because they take it as something "NATURAL".
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Douggie!! ;D
All this thread and I haven't even said hello. Hello. :)
Doesn't it have a day and a night just like earth does um sometimes?
Yes sir it does.
The quote was from the most thought provoking album to say the least of it for its time, hell its will be timeless. I will be on a few. :)
"...and everything under the sun is in tune but the sun is eclipsed by the moon."
"There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark....The only thing that makes it look light is the sun.
Same thing with the earth, i guess. I don't really know, I was drunk at the time.
Well, shine on you crazy diamonds. I have worn out my welcome with random precision.
Moooon not Bad. Earth good?
*wonders off.
***Comes back
Taco to answer your question of how long it takes. You will need this. I can not calculate past my very large 21 digits. Need help counting? :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clock_of_the_Long_Now#Design
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**** "ooh" stumbles forward and drools, wide eyed. ****
Loial likes shiny objects.
Gee Iron can I keep it? I promise to keep and squeeze it and love it forever and never lose it."
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And a great big Hello to you Craigypoo!! My what a lovely singing voice you have!!
I'm stayin away from the sauce for a bit.. Well, for a few weeks anyway... Drink a double for me :P
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Mission accomplished. 8) http://www.darksidevoices.com/images/DarkSide1_14.gif (http://www.darksidevoices.com/images/DarkSide1_14.gif)
It was this album buddy. Comments taped and that made the 'Final Cut' (another pink pun) were very cleverly recorded by Roger Waters and put into context by me several times this thread.
Read why the band edited off the album Paul McCartney and where.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Side_of_the_Moon
"It stayed longer on the US Billboard Top 200 chart than any other album in history (741+ weeks)."
Check out the animated album cover. Can someone please show me how to to duplicate it?
http://www.darkstarz.com/pinkfloyd/PFindex.html
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Skater, DT, and anybody else who believed it was a conspiracy, read these two sites and get back to me:
http://www.braeunig.us/space/hoax.htm
http://iangoddard.net/moon01.htm
Even the conspiracy theorists believe we landed on the moon (and claim that video was a conspiracy to discredit conspiracy theorists, hah): http://www.lunaranomalies.com/fake-moon.htm
I also challenge you to provide a website with detailed evidence showing the landings were fake (not a video full of speculation and BS that takes about 10 seconds to refute). Just one. I googled around for a bit, but all I could find were sites refuting the idea that the landing was a hoax.
Or you could just be men and admit you were wrong.
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Skater can't be a man yet.
Not without a sex change anyway... ;D