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Development => Bugs, Feature Requests, and Feedback => Topic started by: Eiii on January 06, 2005, 10:28:49 AM

Title: Bug: Caustics
Post by: Eiii on January 06, 2005, 10:28:49 AM
The caustics are great, but there's a small bug with them. They show up on all sides of the walls that are in water, which is usually okay, except when it's a "tunnel" of water.

Look in 2fort5, it's pretty obvious.
Title: Re: Bug: Caustics
Post by: jitspoe on January 06, 2005, 01:27:22 PM
Not really much I can do about that -- if the surface is underwater, it gets caustics. :)

With the new map format, however, I might use "caustics maps" that allow for controlled levels of caustics on surfaces.
Title: Re: Bug: Caustics
Post by: Eiii on January 06, 2005, 08:07:45 PM
New map format? like, not BSP anymore, or just the new engine?
Title: Re: Bug: Caustics
Post by: jitspoe on January 06, 2005, 08:23:33 PM
Haven't decided if I'm going to use BSP trees or not.  Read here for more details: http://www.quakesrc.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4229
Title: Re: Bug: Caustics
Post by: Eiii on January 07, 2005, 12:35:23 AM
Use Gmax, or i will kill you. Gmax owns all.

OOH! OOH!
Since Gmax doesn't use polygons, you can have it render the polygons in-game. Then, there could be a option, to have detail. Then, you can still put most of the power in the graphics card, and the people with crappy ones can just turn it down.
Title: Re: Bug: Caustics
Post by: jitspoe on January 07, 2005, 01:12:21 AM
gmax doesn't use polygons? o.0

I do plan to have scaleable LOD so that people can adjust the detail level.
Title: Re: Bug: Caustics
Post by: Eiii on January 07, 2005, 09:35:31 AM
It just uses tons and tons. and tons. Have you ever used gmax?
Title: Re: Bug: Caustics
Post by: jitspoe on January 07, 2005, 01:30:25 PM
A little... I'm pretty sure you can control the polygons.  Wonder if it can export ASE.
Title: Re: Bug: Caustics
Post by: Eiii on January 07, 2005, 08:02:02 PM
Can Q2 render ASE?

And what is ASE?
Title: Re: Bug: Caustics
Post by: jitspoe on January 08, 2005, 05:09:37 PM
No.

3dsmax's ASCII export format.
Title: Re: Bug: Caustics
Post by: Eiii on January 08, 2005, 06:31:55 PM
I saw somewhere a version of Q2 that rendered Q3 mapfiles... if you had Q3. It was hosted on planetquake, you should check it out, jits.
Title: Re: Bug: Caustics
Post by: jitspoe on January 09, 2005, 01:27:45 AM
It's like $3k to license the q3 map compilers.
Title: Re: Bug: Caustics
Post by: Eiii on January 09, 2005, 01:36:52 AM
We can totally raise the money.
Title: Re: Bug: Caustics
Post by: jitspoe on January 09, 2005, 04:22:39 AM
Meh, I don't think it's worth it -- the q3 level format isn't THAT big of an advancement over q2's.  Besides, Carmack is open-sourcing Quake3 soon.
Title: Re: Bug: Caustics
Post by: Eiii on January 10, 2005, 12:50:33 AM
Until then, work on the engine thingy. It'll do for now.