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Development => Bugs, Feature Requests, and Feedback => Topic started by: drallion on February 02, 2005, 11:46:12 PM
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hey jitspoe & other devs...
can you please increase the mouse sensitivity? I am used to playing Quake 3 and other games and am used to playing with a much higher sensitivity level than the current max for build 13...
it would be super helpful for those who are skilled enough to appreciate it ;)
thanks
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I don't think there is a max... just type "sensitivity #" at the console.
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is that a q2 cmd?
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Yes. Both q2 and the standalone support it.
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thanks
why then the slide bar in the q2 options menu ? any idea on what it caps out at? I might be cheating myself out of more kills using q2 dammit. If so please point them out .
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Um. The slide bar is there for you to adjust it? All it does is change the value of "sensitivity."
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Just cusrious as stated previosly not trying to proove you wrong or anything , but this does not add up.
You mentioned that you dont think it does have a max vaule.
The bar has to have a min. value and a max. value, period. That is why it slides and stops at some point.
1. Did you put a slidebar to adjust the mouse sensitivity in the standalone like q2?
2. If not, can you excede the q2 slidebar's max vaule by typing the "sensitivity #"cmd to a higher vaule then the default max for q2's slidebar? In either the q2 or the standalone console?
3. Is the "sensitivity #" cmd dp in the game faq?
4. I guess the value for q2's sensitivity # cmd can only be 1-999 (or something like that)same as your alpha?
it would be super helpful for those who are skilled enough to appreciate it
That is not a well known cmd and is very,very useful
Again thinking is not my forte' I will leave that for you Jitspoe.
My head hurts , now go and find my anwser, please.
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1. Yes.
2. The sliders are there for ease of use only. You can exceed the max values by modifying the cvars directly at the console.
3. I thought you read the faq. ;) But no, it's not, because it's in the menu, and I don't see a reason to exceed the max value of 20. It jut makes movement extremely fast and severely reduces your accuracy.
4. Sensitivity is just a multiplier. It can be pretty much any value you want, even negative if you want to make it inverted.
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kewl thanks , now i know how some one is able to turn faster than me, I own some people some apologies
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Higher resolution mice are also a possibility -- faster movement without the precision loss. :)
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"Someone" is one word.
"Own"="Owe"
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Jitspoe please explain to the lamed in the brain :) ?
lol ei ei oooopwned
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Better mice move faster.
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Oh....How do you find such attributes before purchasing a mouse?
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Look for an optical mouse with a resolution of 800dpi or higher.
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thanks kid rock !!!
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Kid Rock wouldn't be a name, would it?
Kid Rock !
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okay, thanks jits... ima go set sensitivity cvar to like 30 lol...
though, really, 20 is a bit too low for me... i think 23-25 should be good, thanks!
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Wow.... either your windows mouse settings are really low, or you're one of those people who likes to move the mouse 1mm and turn 180 degrees.
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And I though I had high sensitivity. Wow.
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i told yall :) it helps if your faster , that cmd should have a cap on it , makes for unfair play
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I don't see how spinning around five times when you touch the mouse gives you any kind of advantage. With the higher speed comes less precision. You can turn faster, but you can't aim as well.
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"With the higher speed comes less precision." True if your not using an obtuse number, a setting at 22 does not cause you mouse to spin out of control.
"You can turn faster, but you can't aim as well. " That is a matter of a persons hand/eye cordination. Some people like my self could do with a faster turning radious (via cmd) then the hinderence of the slidebar. Just imagine how many more would have died by my gun.
It really does help in extreme q2 senarios (now i know how some people are able to out turn me when "dancing with the rail", to me it was defying the laws of q2 physics. Now i know better) .
For instance,
I am a q2/alpha user who has his slide bar maxed and i am gaming with some one who has binded a higher "sensitvity" they are able to turn faster than I. Just, as if some one was running faster , its not fair, period. <<<(Please respond)
If the player is able to move faster via speedcheat or a higher senseitivty they have altered the physical limitaions which was set by the game designers (you and others) to make fair game play.
And if it is ok to bind beond the q2 default physical limitations set for players then hows about you give me the command to make my movement (forwards/backwards-left(strafe)/right(stafe) just a little bit faster!!!
point is this should not be allowed to be exploited and you can fix this .
your thoughts please sir :)
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You're on crack.
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:o I hate you. That was 8 years ago and my friends mom paid me good !!!!! :'(
I thought you were going to be cryptic not hurtful.
Comon bud I have a valid logical point . if i dont be kind and explain please. I am learning ::) !!!
Or at least say"while on crack loial you could have a point in extreme tweaking" lol talking about q2 tweaks ;)
" I don't see how spinning around five times when you touch the mouse gives you any kind of advantage"
unless your using a q2 rat bot
And if it is ok to bind beond the q2 default physical limitations set for players then hows about you give me the command to make my movement (forwards/backwards-left(strafe)/right(stafe) just a little bit faster!!! :)
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If someone has a really NONsensitive mouse, they might need it higher than 20. Anyway, it's not not fair. So it is. They should just use the cmd.
And wait, you friend's mom paid you because of this? Whaaaa?
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I fail to see what your argument is. The setting is available to everyone. How is that unfair? If you set the value too high, it becomes unplayable; you won't be able to aim. Try playing with your sensitivity at 200 or so.
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Posted by: jitspoe
"The setting is available to everyone"
Please don't say you ment that its "available" as in any user can toggle it, thats a given.
Posted by: jitspoe
How is that unfair?
Just how were we supposed to learn about these cmd's and others that are not in your faq? That is the first way it is unfair.
(Jitspoe how did you learn about these commands and when will you start sharing more little know cmd tweaks?)
Jitspoe you saidPosted by: jitspoe
With the higher speed comes less precision.
Then I said
Posted by: loial21
True if your not using an obtuse number, a setting at 22 does not cause you mouse to spin out of control.
Then lastly you said this ::)
Posted by: jitspoe
If you set the value too high, it becomes unplayable; you won't be able to aim. Try playing with your sensitivity at 200 or so.
("War Games" referenece follows in respect to all programmers) "MR. POTATOHEAD" I ment an obtuse number, you completely avoid/missed my point? Why?
True or faulse , yes or no Jitspoe
Is out maneuvering your enemy ideal in warfare, even when 1/10 of a second is the differnece between you living or dying ?
Does haveing this ability give you and advantage in the sense of out maneuverign/flanking regardless of accuracy?
Can haveing a slightly higher "sensetivity" than your opponet give you a faster turning radious in q2 thus enableing you to out maneuver?
Please be kind enough to anwser each question. yes or no. I am your biggest fan ice hole, so please resepct me and anwser these questsions one by one.
***EDIT*** Pretty please!!!
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Just how were we supposed to learn about these cmd's and others that are not in your faq? That is the first way it is unfair.
I've added it to the FAQ. That fair enough for you?
(Jitspoe how did you learn about these commands and when will you start sharing more little know cmd tweaks?)
I've known about the sensitivity setting for as long as I've known Q2. Sites like these (http://www.planetquake.com/console/commands/quake_2.html#c-sensitivity) (which are incidentally linked from the Documentation (http://www.planetquake.com/digitalpaint/docs.html) page) contain a plethora of information.
I ment an obtuse number, you completely avoid/missed my point? Why?
Probably because I have no clue what an obtuse number is.
True or faulse , yes or no Jitspoe
loial21 has good typing skills: faulse. ;)
Is out maneuvering your enemy ideal in warfare, even when 1/10 of a second is the differnece between you living or dying ?
Do I get two guesses?
Does haveing this ability give you and advantage in the sense of out maneuverign/flanking regardless of accuracy?
"this ability" being...? Ability to read documentation (http://www.planetquake.com/digitalpaint/docs.html)?
Can haveing a slightly higher "sensetivity" than your opponet give you a faster turning radious in q2 thus enableing you to out maneuver?
It can give you a faster turning radius with less mouse movement, but that's only practical if you can aim with it. Also, turning faster != maneuvering better. Some really skilled players use a sensitivity of 3. They just move the mouse faster.
I never fathomed that people would want to set their sensitivity above 20. Once it gets that high you start losing the ability to shoot through small windows/openings and, well, aim at anybody more than 10 feet away. I can't understand why you're making such a huge deal out of this.
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I can't either. The cmd is documented in more than one place, and it's available to everyone!
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1. Are there only 2 setteings for movement walk/run?
2. What is the cmd that gives the vaule of walk/run
3. Can this cmd be tweaked? (not trying to cheat just understand)
Jitspoe,
Thank you for taking the time to be a smart ice as always :P and u2 eiei o !! >:( (you 2 never dissapoint)
i can't acces the documentation page/ company firewall :( blocks all
what is the url or ip ? so i can get it added.
and if it planetquake is there an alternate web site?
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cl_forwardspeed and cl_sidespeed set how fast you move. You can make them slower, but not faster. I think the limit is 400, but "alwys run" doubles the speed or something like that.
IP for the documentation page is 207.38.10.100, but that's planetquake and there are no alternatives. Why can't you access the page from home?
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I am on company a network at home and at work, I thought you knew that. Sorry :P
Planeta del la quake is no bueno sez my company.
So cl_forwardspeed/sidespeed have been caped, ok so how do the q2 speed cheats defeat the cap? (trying to understanding how the cap is being bypased, not wanting to know how to cheat)
if email would be better forum....then email me
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Speed hacks alter the timing of the system clock.