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Paintball 2: The Game => Server Discussion => Topic started by: XtremeBain on October 03, 2007, 10:15:56 AM

Title: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: XtremeBain on October 03, 2007, 10:15:56 AM
I am pleased to announce a new service available to the community courtesy of your friends in eR33t.  Blitz, BoB and myself are working on a few server and competition-related initiatives and have setup shop in #eR33t-Gaming for the time being.  The servers are being hosted out of Dallas, TX on a power-house of a server.  An example IP is 74.86.179.248:27911.

We're not quite ready for launch, but we do have a few match servers up and running to test the settings and identify any performance issues.  If you'd like to use our match servers now you can say !match in #eR33t-Gaming to get a server.  The match config right now is reasonable (obsblackout, classic flag settings, guntemp off, login enforced, B19 client enforced, impact and grenade ffire off, elim 60, etc.) and it's sync'd with all the maps at http://dplogin.com/files/maps.  A web-based server request tool will be added later allowing players to customize most server settings.  If you encounter any problems, please send me a PM on IRC and I'll be sure to check on it in the evenings.

For the moment our public servers are on hold while we optimize our new server environment and have established a website.  Expect a more formal launch from us in the coming weeks.
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Post by: KnacK on October 03, 2007, 10:19:46 AM
I look forward to it Bain.
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: Eiii on October 03, 2007, 10:55:11 AM
Er33t servers again? Cool.
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: magalhaes on October 03, 2007, 11:00:38 AM
eR33t*
I dont really care about NA servers but if you are going to organize any cups dont forget about the germans. :)
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: lekky on October 03, 2007, 11:25:05 AM
Thanks XBain and eR33t. How many servers are you looking to have up?
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: KiLo on October 03, 2007, 12:15:44 PM
I can answer this I think. If I am not mistaken right now there are 4 match servers up and the pubs are on there way although I am not sure how many there will be.
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Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: lekky on October 03, 2007, 12:47:05 PM
Europeans* (Responding to magalhaes)

having to play on german servers that probably engendered a euro team getting to the finals.

Yeah, they were a terrible team of course.

Scheduling, as well as server location is such an issue. If there is a way to satisfy all areas of this community i'm sure you will find that way, otherwise good luck with it all.

On a side-note, the first PBCup [QeHs] entered was my most-favourite memory of playing this game :)
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Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: MosheD on October 03, 2007, 01:52:10 PM
they don't have experience playing with [...] packet loss.

we do have experience with packet loss.
(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8812/sshot008sb7.jpg)

i'm behind. And as you see not every german got a 20 ping on german servers. But i think it's fair if a match is splitted onto american and european servers.
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: XtremeBain on October 03, 2007, 01:55:35 PM
Thanks XBain and eR33t. How many servers are you looking to have up?

With the hardware we have right now, I'd say that we could easily run 20 full 12-player servers.  It really comes down to demand though.  If we're finding that we only need 4 match servers and one public server, then that's all we'll run.  If match servers are filling up at peak hours, then we'll expand to 6 or 8.  If people need to start hammering our public server for a slot, maybe we'll open up a second server.

We opted to go with better hardware so that we can afford to run services on the same system with little effect on the performance of the PB2 servers.  Our PB2 servers are sliced into their own environment which gives them exclusive rights to the operating system, filesystem, network link, memory, etc..  This is good for a couple reasons.  First it gives us the ability to reallocate disk space, memory and processors with very little effort if the PB2 servers ever need it.  Secondly, it's a not sharing any of these resources with the other services and processes running along side of it.  When we were doing intensive stats parsing on the original eR33t servers (2 full 12-16 player servers simultaneous for 90% of the NA afternoon and evening), everyone would get a 4-5s lag spike every 20 minutes on the :00 :20 and :40.  These sorts of problems are going to be prevented since the environment for the servers isn't sharing memory/cpu with the webserver.

With it's own isolated operating system, we can really begin optimizing different areas of the stack to yield better performance for the game servers and not having to worry about any additional services.

I don't want to turn this entire thread into another PBCup discussion, but I feel that we cannot have NA/EU teams consolidated into one big event.  I spent a lot of time out of position and trying to satisfy the basic needs of EU teams in the PBCup last year.  With that experience, I have a couple better ideas now of how to run a NA/EU league, but I think it would be far easier to run two seperate leagues.  That being said and depending on how things go in the next couple weeks, I wouldn't mind collaborating with the Europaint guys to come up with a format that could see the top team from continent to face off in a World Championships match to end off a season.
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Post by: Dirty_Taco on October 03, 2007, 03:29:55 PM
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Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: coLa on October 03, 2007, 03:33:13 PM
TEXAS FTW!1!1 looking forward to the 30ish ping. :)
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: b00nlander on October 03, 2007, 03:38:27 PM
I think it's great that eR33t is putting up those servers and all that is coming with it (I wish I had those resources :P), and I agree that it would probably better if there were split divisions.  However, many feel that it is a greater challenge to play experienced american clans than playing those newer european clans, be it for the different choice of maps or actually the difficulty to win a map with the ping handicap.

One question remains for me:  is this going together with the WSOP idea of Blitz or are you planning on a new league-like event (or both)?
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: loial21 on October 03, 2007, 08:38:42 PM
:o  :o  :o (triple take)


Well it's aboot time!!!

So what happens to 20ID? It woudl seem logical to have the same clan name as server. (Curious)

Any server rules? 

Best wishes.

 
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: nightryder on October 03, 2007, 09:06:22 PM
how much are you paying for the servers. thx by the way whos paying for them
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: XtremeBain on October 03, 2007, 10:09:35 PM
Well it's aboot time!!!

So what happens to 20ID? It woudl seem logical to have the same clan name as server. (Curious)

Unfortunately our server sponsor does have template installations for DP:PB2 or Q2, so they're unable to provide servers.  Since these servers are going to be funded by former-eR33t members and not by our team, then we'll use our eR33t branding on the servers.

Any server rules? 

Best wishes.

There will be some rules for when we open the doors to the pub servers.  Right now servers are being acquired through IRC so we can control who's getting a server and who's not a little better.  Generally there aren't many complaints from match servers.
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: lekky on October 03, 2007, 10:11:38 PM
From a European standpoint, servers are spot-on.
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: DaRkNeSS on October 04, 2007, 01:46:08 AM
Well done.
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: y00tz on October 04, 2007, 08:15:17 AM
Mmm 31 ping, nice job XtremeBain, BoB, and Blitz.
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: Apocalypse on October 04, 2007, 08:37:59 AM
62 one of the top on my list great job.
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: blaa on October 04, 2007, 10:29:14 AM
 Open pub servers for siege maps and maybe for other gametypes too :P.
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Post by: Dirty_Taco on October 04, 2007, 01:13:38 PM
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Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: DaRkNeSS on October 04, 2007, 01:42:35 PM
Yeah blaa good idea, let's put a bunch of jitspoe maps on it that no one likes. 
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: Edgecrusher on October 05, 2007, 04:41:07 AM

If you'd like to use our match servers now you can say !match in #eR33t-Gaming to get a server. 

time to put it in here admins!!!

http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=6131.0

Nicely done, I ping about the same as on GT´s (180ish), almost no lag for now. Also I saw that there aren´t some awfull maps constantly used in matches.

Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: James on October 05, 2007, 05:11:42 PM
The maps played on the match servers are dependent on what the clan wants not what we want.

The pubs will have good maps playing that support a wide variety of maps that support all playing types.
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: iEATnoobs on October 05, 2007, 05:54:55 PM
Ok. I was in one of these servers the other day for a match and nothing on the scoreboard showed up for any of us. I was also the ping would be better than 110 if i ping 60 in a GT?
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: James on October 05, 2007, 06:02:11 PM
What?
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: y00tz on October 05, 2007, 07:18:59 PM
I was also [wondering if] the ping [should] be better than 110 [since I] ping 60 [on] a GT [server.]
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: blaa on October 06, 2007, 02:22:44 AM
 You guys should help other server owners to disable the ability to change sky ;]

Thanks darkness, I think so too, that was a good idea!!!!
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: iEATnoobs on October 06, 2007, 09:11:08 AM
LMFAO I just reread my post. Thx y00ts, but yea i ping the same in a german server. Is that just a false ping reading on the server browser?
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: atmays on October 06, 2007, 10:03:42 AM
so what on these servers you cant change sky.

I havent been on one. but I think disabling that feature would cause people to not match on the server. Since ev eryone is lookin for some type of advantage, they wil go to GT servers.

I jus woke up, I will revise my post later.

What do I know.
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: coLa on October 06, 2007, 10:51:06 AM
it's actually not that big of a deal. gl_brightness <number> helps out
Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: lekky on October 06, 2007, 01:23:14 PM
I havent been on one. but I think disabling that feature would cause people to not match on the server. Since ev eryone is lookin for some type of advantage, they wil go to GT servers.

What difference does it make, if everyone does it the advantage is cancelled out.
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Post by: Dirty_Taco on October 06, 2007, 02:41:44 PM
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Title: Re: #eR33t-Gaming Announcement
Post by: loial21 on October 06, 2007, 04:25:24 PM
No a grapple hook and some paint shields would do that.