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Paintball 2 Discussion / Re: Hacking and the committee...

« on: March 24, 2008, 01:06:01 AM »

Wow you guys are really lenient. Its too old to be considered a bannable offense. I dont get that at all.You may want to update the committee sticky then. Maybe Im just used to hackers being dealt with differently. Most games you hack and get evidence against you. As soon as the proper people see the evidence against you, Permanent ban see ya. Theres none of this well let us have your demos, lets decide on the time. Why do you want hackers returning to the community? Could you explain the huge difference between the 1024 day ban and 32 day ban. I believe one of the guys was ieatnoobs. Im too tired to run it down.  Im just saying if you are going to allow hackers to return. Then there should be set in stone punishments. Such as 1st-32day 2nd-64 3rd-Permanent.

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Cheater Reports and Bans / Re: Homming still playing....

« on: March 24, 2008, 12:57:26 AM »

Dude I dont effn know what your talking about. I just want the committee to review and clean up its act.

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Paintball 2 Discussion / Hacking and the committee...

« on: March 24, 2008, 12:40:07 AM »

Well Ive just came back to DP. I have to say Im mostly disappointed in the way things are being handled. Before I left if someone was hacking, a demo got posted and then they were banned. Now we have this "committee", that is very ineffective. Bans are being handled unfairly and very delayed. Sortve reminds me of the delayed reaction commercials. I mean we have homing getting banned 64 days when a first offence is supposed to be 32 days. Not to mention, it took a week to get him banned. Then we have wade that was reported by homing, and the only thing we get from that is well the demo is old and that he was reported by a hacker. Didn't know hacking had a statute of limitations.  Does it matter who reports the violation? I mean do the cops ignore drug dealers because they was reported by a murderer. Then we have those two guys that got caught giving out hacks. One was banned for 64 days, the other was 1024. Come on do you guys just have a wall of potential ban times and just throw darts at it for each offender. Since some players get a free pass, there must be a free pass up on the wall too. This committee is very slow at responding to the hacking reports, then when they do theyre very inconsistent in handling the reports fairly.

Yes I know Im going to get flamed for this. But thats ok I put on my flameproof suit. So blaze away. If the committee is doing a good job in your eyes good for you, you must have more patience and trust in them than I do.

EDIT:
Also IMO anyone caught hacking or giving out hackers should be banned permently and told to have a nice life.

Why is this guy on the committee?
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=3943.0
I think all committee members should be held to the highest of standards and have a spotless background.

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Cheater Reports and Bans / Re: Homming still playing....

« on: March 24, 2008, 12:24:13 AM »

Well see this is why I think the committee is very ineffective. One guy is banned the other one not so much. lol

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Cheater Reports and Bans / Re: Wade's speedhacks

« on: March 23, 2008, 10:45:51 PM »

So how many pages and days does this guy take to get banned? We should start 2 pools with each ban thread. One betting the pages, and the other on the date of ban. I mean if were going to do things inefficiently, we might as well have fun  with it.

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Cheater Reports and Bans / Re: Homming still playing....

« on: March 23, 2008, 10:43:04 PM »

Demo me plz...

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Cheater Reports and Bans / Re: HomingBullet and Wanted using an Aim bot?

« on: March 23, 2008, 07:50:25 PM »

I'm comprehending fine. You guys like to drag your feet on making judgments. Look demos are an exact replica of what happens in the game. The proof is there, there is no reason for dragging it out. I just come from games where something is posted that proves a hack is in use, and they are banned promptly. This process is full of bs. Im just asking that they take the bs out of it. I dont know it just seems to work, and keeps the integrity of the game. Im really starting to think this community likes drama.

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Cheater Reports and Bans / Re: HomingBullet and Wanted using an Aim bot?

« on: March 23, 2008, 02:25:36 PM »

They wasnt asking for a confession, it was for further review. Which I dont get because well if the ones on here are definitive proof then there is no need for further review is there.

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Cheater Reports and Bans / Re: HomingBullet and Wanted using an Aim bot?

« on: March 23, 2008, 01:21:42 PM »

I left right before the committee was formed. I remember before bans were handled swiftly and promptly. Now I have came back to the game. Now it takes, 5 page threads, 100 demo reviews and pleading with the guilty to give up demos. If you already have definitive proof nothing else is needed, hand out the ban and quit bsing around.
quote from cola:
seems like the offenders have that extra time to get their affects in order before they are strucken with the
almighty ban stick.
The guilty do not deserve this pleasure of extra time. Just toss em.

Quite true.

Jits asked for the demos on the 20th at a bit after  11:00 AM.

http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=12544.msg126133#msg126133

Homing posted an excuse at 2:00 PM

http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=12544.msg126164#msg126164

At 3:36 he complains again and gives no indication he is providing the demo.

http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=12544.msg126184#msg126184

On the 21st at 1 AM he had time to upload a demo of Wade.

http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=12628.msg126289#msg126289

And Jits decided to ban them for not producing the demos on the 21st at 9:30 in the evening.

So from 2:00 when he first posted about Jit's statement, until at least 1:00 AM the next day Homing had 11 hours to reflect on his situation and post a demo if he wished.

Homing twice said he was not giving the demo after Jits' statement. He had opportunity, but not the inclination.

If things were right we wouldnt needed all this bs.

Though I really love the fact that the guilty is supposed to incriminate themselves. Funny how I thought the US gov't system was freaked up just because it takes forever for anything to get done. On here we ask the charged to provide evidence against themselves and still take forever.

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Cheater Reports and Bans / Re: HomingBullet and Wanted using an Aim bot?

« on: March 23, 2008, 01:34:08 AM »

Yes I understand how demos work. Basically records everything from that players pov. Anyways, There shouldnt been a please submit your other demos, for further investigation. It shouldve been you have definitive proof in this demo posted and 32 day ban. Let them serve it and hopefully they learn. When it comes to hacking the demo should from any person pov should tell the whole story and not just one persons. In your second paragraph you state they cant send a demo "with hacks off".  Are you saying that because it wasnt theirs that its not absolutely positive that they was hacking. Because it the hacks wouldnt be showing on the third party recording the demo. Ill be honest I think with an undetectable hack that "snap aiming" from a third party is lousy evidence. Though Im not on this all knowing committee so whatever. Though if the committee deems a person hacking definitively then they need to slap the ban stick on them. Not have some long drawn out bs party about it. I think congress could work thru this quicker and well thats just sad.

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Cheater Reports and Bans / Re: HomingBullet and Wanted using an Aim bot?

« on: March 23, 2008, 01:03:09 AM »

Whats the point in him providing demos. I dont get this part at all. I mean if the ones that are on this thread are conclusive then there is no reason for someone to post demos of themselves. Isnt this like asking the guy that killed someone for them to admit to. I mean obviously hes going to tell you no? I mean what is too stop homing or bullet from sending false demos of themselves with the hacks off. This whole committee thing is working out like a charm.

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Cheater Reports and Bans / Re: HomingBullet and Wanted using an Aim bot?

« on: March 22, 2008, 10:15:29 PM »

If the demos are good enough to be considered definitive proof of hacking. Then why sit around and have some over the top discussion about it and demand a player incriminate themselves? Why not just put the ban in effect and let them come back when they serve it. Though I totally disagree with the coming back part.

Im not defending nor supporting these two. Im just questioning the process. Seems sloppy...

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Cheater Reports and Bans / Re: HomingBullet and Wanted using an Aim bot?

« on: March 22, 2008, 09:33:27 PM »

if you would have read the thread you would have known that with or without their demos they were going to be banned. obviously the original demos that were posted were enough to prove them guilty of the offense in question.

Sorry I dont really know about hacks. Im just saying that its pathetic it takes 5 pages and days to complete a ban. Bans should be handed down quickly and not lollygagging around asking for demos. They should have been banned the day the demos are posted and reviewed. This is just hmm how can I put this nicely.... Well I guess I cant... pathetic. The commitee obviously needs to be reviewed or atleast its processing of matters.

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Cheater Reports and Bans / Re: HomingBullet and Wanted using an Aim bot?

« on: March 22, 2008, 04:50:05 PM »

Just wondering when it became mandatory to produce a demo of yourself. Look I just got back into the game. Well this is the first time I have ever seen a player banned because they didnt post up their demos. Seems like lame evidence too in the first place. Which it must be lame for you to ask the charged to produce evidence against themselves.  Whether he cheated or not in another game is none of DP2's admin or committee's business. Thats urban terrors problem not DP's. It seems like lately with this committe bs, bans have been became really inconsistent. One guy gets 32 and the other one gets 1024 day ban for the same offence. Then here we have two guys that get banned finally after a 6+ page forum topic is debated through. Something just really seems off. If there hacking fine, ban them. Dont beg them too produce evidence of them cheating just so you can be sure. If you ask me, if your having to ask the charged to produce your evidence then you may want to reconsider the evidence you have as inconclusive. This is the first time Ive even seen a ban thread go to the 5th page before the player is actually banned. Jits, no offense to you and really appreciate everything you do. Though if this cheat is undetectable and the only way to prove guilt is by debating demo's on the forum, mind you that these demo's have none of the obvious or definite proof of cheating (such as different colored models and whatever hacks have in them) other than the aim "snapping to players", you may want to work on the detection method before trying to ban people.

To sum it up...
1. No definite proof other than "OMG HAX SNAPPING AIM"
2. Banning across the community has became really inconsistent.
3. Player only gets banned after 5 pages of debating, and not producing further evidence for review, whats wrong with the original evidence.

Just a few things seem "off", if you ask me.

Edit: I have just got back into the game 2 days ago, as previously stated. I am in the same clan as these guys. Though the only two from my clan, I have played with are vlad and atmays. So I really have no feeling one way or the other about the bannings just because they are my "clanmates". I'm more concerned with the way bannings are being handled. Its very sloppy if you ask me. I have played other FPS, and well the evidence is always sharp and to the point. The bannings were always swift and permanent none of this playaround 32, 64,... 1024 day bs. Just bang your caught, please stay out and have a nice life.

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Other Stuff / Re: Signing me up for porn mailings won't get you unbanned, Y2J

« on: August 11, 2007, 06:46:12 PM »

You dont like porn...

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Other Stuff / Re: XGAMES -Jake Brown's Fall

« on: August 07, 2007, 12:08:51 PM »

He should have strafe jumped...

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Clans, Matches, and Tournaments / Re: DP Clan website

« on: August 07, 2007, 08:24:58 AM »

You should make a ladder site with  a rankiing system. This game has alot of maps so we could get alot of ladder types going, such as a ladder for different map types and different game modes.

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Clans, Matches, and Tournaments / Re: DP Clan website

« on: August 04, 2007, 10:01:01 PM »

You should set up a site like TWL for this game. Its www.teamwarfare.com , Its sortve like both of your ideas, together. You have a clan page for your clan, then you also have ladders and leagues. It's pretty popular with the big name games. Be kool to have something like that for this game that was actually official instead of clans putting 999999999-0 as their records and just setting up "matches thru irc and in game. The funny thing is in every game that I came from we never called those matches, just scrims. Then again we had team warfare to rely on for matches.

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Cheater Reports and Bans / Re: Cheat Detected: [ELITE]Prime24

« on: July 28, 2007, 08:09:47 AM »

Never would of thought...

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Clans, Matches, and Tournaments / Re: message to dew leaders

« on: July 25, 2007, 08:44:45 PM »

The server has 3 admins for your information.  The server really only has 1 rule and its simple no languauge. I might let a few off colored words go here and there, but for the most part I keep it too a minimum. I do this so that I dont have to listen to idiots being morons and talking about stuff I dont want to hear when playing. It also help keeps down the flaming on the server.  We have alot of regular peeps on the server that are our friends. Our history for the most part is that we have been a stable clan. We have had made alot of changes, in the months we have been up, from huge to small to medium. We have went through a leadership change. Though through all of this we have had a strong core, which is why the clan is lasting and not fading away as some people wish for whatever reason.

As far as your ban sword, you really shouldnt have had asked that question, after the fact he said watch the language. Its really your fault, im sorry.