Yeah, I agree with bitmate on the clans. Most clans are created and have some conflicts between members and then they split up, Im not calling team xtreme out.. but they did have conflicts, and now they are gone.. so.. just something to think about before you make a clan.. Yes, I know i made a clan [CoN] but it was going no where (mainly because the name stood for Convicts) so I brought back an older clan.. made in around late 2002 name Paint Velocity. This was back when I was a newbie and didnt know how to play. I met Herb and he and I created it. So add ^pV^ to the list. Come visit us at #Team_pV on irc. I also changed names... i am SysTeM-X now for those of you who dont know.