Author Topic: Newmap: Endless Cave with Two Ends (Read 9163 times)

3lf · « **on:** April 28, 2012, 10:04:05 AM »

Endless Cave with Two Ends

So, here is my second map

Beta 1
Max players: 8
Gamemode: CTF
Flags: 1 flag in each base
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=24763.0;attach=9263

Beta 2
Changelog:
Modified base
Added lights

http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=24763.0;attach=9296

I thought I might aswell finish what I started so here is!

Beta 3
Changelog:
Started from scratch so basically everything has been modified
Download here

I hope there are still people who have time to check out this map and point out bugs and glitches I didn't notice

blaa · « **Reply #1 on:** April 28, 2012, 10:17:58 AM »

im confused by the map name

T3RR0R15T · « **Reply #2 on:** April 28, 2012, 10:54:32 AM »

Map is online: [OTB] Beta - 176.28.8.232:22222

PM me, if you need a mapchange login.

painted · « **Reply #3 on:** April 28, 2012, 11:07:13 AM »

Quote from: blaa on April 28, 2012, 10:17:58 AM

im confused by the map name

What's wrong with an Endless cave that has two ends?

Foxhound · « **Reply #4 on:** April 28, 2012, 12:56:26 PM »

Quote from: painted on April 28, 2012, 11:07:13 AM

What's wrong with an Endless cave that has two ends?

Map reminds me of shreds

T3RR0R15T · « **Reply #5 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:25:00 PM »

Yes, the mid part is a bit like shreds1.

Makowiec · « **Reply #6 on:** May 01, 2012, 12:36:44 PM »

Well here is my small Chef-like feedback.

Move it a little...

This is too dark. I think the whole map is a bit too dark. But this tunnel is awful because of it. Put a light there.

I think it will look better if you remove this face and make ramp a little longer.

That's all. Map is very small and I think it's good for 1vs1 matches only. With PGP. Nothing else.

jitspoe · « **Reply #7 on:** May 02, 2012, 12:35:54 AM »

A few things:
The structure in the zip file should have a "pball" directory, not "Kopio pball". You have some hidden "Thumbs.db" files in there. The mapshots picture isn't really necessary for a beta map, but if you want to include one, it should 128x128. There are a bunch of errors in the console when you load the map. The map is way too dark (looks like you have your gamma and brightness settings cranked way up. You should work with the default settings).

I like that the map is pretty simple for new players, but has some trick jumps to get to higher ground. You might consider adding more paths to the base. It looks like the flags will be too easy to defend. You should also look into clipping planes to try to make more natural cave walls and have less stuff straight up and down with hard angles.

I've uploaded the map to the beta server. See PM for details.

3lf · « **Reply #8 on:** May 02, 2012, 08:46:53 AM »

Quote from: Makowiec on May 01, 2012, 12:36:44 PM

Map is very small and I think it's good for 1vs1 matches only. With PGP. Nothing else.

I totally disagree with you Makowiec

I haven't changed the default settings, but I will make beta2 properly lighted.
I will delete those bugs on the zip and try to make map more realistic
Thanks for your posts !

3lf · « **Reply #9 on:** May 09, 2012, 09:36:28 AM »

Ok, made new beta

Beta 2
Changelog:
Renamed map to endless.bsp
Modified Base
Added lights
And made some minor bug fixes

I will put some images when I have more time

Chef-Killer · « **Reply #10 on:** May 12, 2012, 03:27:03 AM »

Hm.. most of the important stuff was already posted.

In some parts the map is still too dark. There're areas where's just black.

It would be useful when players don't get blocked by these stalactites. Maybe make them "mist".

A few screenshots with holes and edges, you should avoid. Doesn't look good and isn't mapped well. As jitspoe already wrote, clipping planes will help you to create more natual cave walls properly.

It's ok for your second beta map. Try to improve the map that it will be something special

Map is online @ [OTB] Beta!

3lf · « **Reply #11 on:** May 15, 2012, 07:36:41 AM »

Chef, which beta is online @ [OTB] Beta. And have you played beta 2.
Stalactites are solid in purpose, especially these two:

Chef-Killer · « **Reply #12 on:** May 16, 2012, 10:11:57 AM »

Beta 1 and beta 2, renamed beta 1 to endless_b1. Let me know if you need the login for the beta server. Didn't had enough time to test the gameplay yet.

jitspoe · « **Reply #13 on:** October 14, 2012, 06:34:08 PM »

I put this up on the beta server and we played it. I like the middle area. Lots of places to sneak around behind people. The bases, however, were too easy to defend. There are lots of paths, but they all funnel down to one way to enter the base area. That and you have to make it all the way around up the stairs to grab the flag. If a competent team is defending, you can't get the flag without first eliminating them.

I've attached a demo from the play test. It helps to review how other people play a map. PM me if you need the login to the beta server.

3lf · « **Reply #14 on:** November 23, 2012, 02:28:50 PM »

Right now I'm busy with NoWay but I have some ideas for this map which I'd like to test, but anyways whenever I have some free time I'll try to finish this map too.

3lf · « **Reply #15 on:** November 15, 2015, 04:05:01 AM »

Beta 3 is out!

As this game is still kinda alive I thought I might aswell finish what I started

Changelog:
Started from scratch so almost everything has been modified

jitspoe · « **Reply #16 on:** March 04, 2019, 05:13:08 AM »

Ran around on b3 after we played on b2 yesterday.

Suggestions:
- I'd remove the rock the flag base is on (or adjust the slope on the rock so it can be walked up at any angle). Flags need to be really easy to grab in a combat scenario when you have to juke people and such, especially when there's only 1.
- Old bases looked better, but were too easy to defend.
- Not sure where all the spawn points are on this one, but in b2 you effectively had to spawn camp to wait for a flag grab. Would be good to make sure they're away from the flag.
- Some minor misalignments on the square lights (the vertical sides of them) along the middle.
- Might consider making some of the box jump paths more accessible to new players and not require double jumps.
- Maybe focus on creating a mood with the lighting. Right now it seems like lights are evenly distributed throughout the level and everything is kind of uniformly lit.

jitspoe · « **Reply #17 on:** August 10, 2021, 03:59:39 AM »

This was actually more fun than I expected when we tried it on Social Saturday. One thing I noticed is that, on blue, you can basically just go forward and shoot into the red spawn almost immediately, which feels a bit unfair. Also not a fan of the way the flag rocks prohibit you from grabbing the flag easily from various angles (and can also ricochet you away from the flag if you try to move in fast).

3lf · « **Reply #18 on:** August 10, 2021, 04:28:58 AM »

I've lost the .map file for this. Will have to see if it is worth it to decompile... might be faster just to start from scratch

Edit: Wow! 2012? thanks for reviving an old topic @Jitspoe!

jitspoe · « **Reply #19 on:** September 02, 2021, 03:05:14 AM »

Not my fault you're slow at finishing your maps.