Multiple Accounts: NaNi

[jitspoe]

Profile for NaNi ||Player ID:   31115
Names registered:   kenvelo, nani, jogabonito, saby, gunya, geci, nikeen, snox, ronaldinho80, camps
Former Clans:   only 4 newbies, BLACK ANGELS, czechoslovak TEAM, fanactic warriorw snipers, Three Six Mafia, OSX, NoobKiller, Tekno Hard-core, ApoCaLyps: ThE End Of The World, Czech White Dragons, Emirates, Intellect of Paintball, Bulldogs, ALL STARZ Team, ***SK&cz Wariors***, Only Legends, Only 3 Gangsters, Assassins B team, Only Ellita Warriors, CZ&sk Warriors, black night, Czech Team, only for snipers, The 4 Rookies, FAK JU klan, Dragon Force, New Era, You Too, PrO Gamer, Team Unity, life expectancy, oOo, Friends, Need ugly players, Light in the Darkness, European Elite forces, El^Matadors, ReFleXionS, Bara a Zbyna, NobleXity Beta, The 5 , Inteligents Players, Luckers Team, Strange Gaming, Nice>2, Snox and Nani , Beginners, OmIniX, Overpowered, Royal Basement, Toreadors, Team w4m, Rockz, .Rl., 5 points, foxier esports team , Doxendz, Star Ship Troopers, Pein, Corporation oF Tyrannosaurus.rex, Hardstyle|s engine, InFernaL CoRp, Dolce & Gabbana, 4 Fun, 4 yoU, unlimited.gaming, exit your game
ICQ Number:   384971927
Website:   http://www.nani.wbl.sk
Real Name:   Rado
Location:   Slovakia <3
Email:   www.radko1992@azet.sk


Profile for 2ha ||Player ID:   61295
Names registered:   skil, zt, 2009, dreksk, 2ha, he4dshot, shote, fero
Former Clans:   nice<5, .Snp|, Inteligents Players, Need ugly players, New Era, Rockz


Profile for .Tor&^supak ||Player ID:   86366
Names registered:   lam3r, samuraj, lamer, debil, 7183015, blueeulb, ellitewarrior, allnoobsuck, walker, allsuckmy, smooker, ib4mrock, segalisthechapion, noob4ever, supak, budepecka, japanvirus, thlo, cerq, sney, vvapor
Former Clans:   Toreadors, Three Six Mafia, Tekno Hard-core, SuperKommando, Big8Brothers, SuperKommando, EuroGang, [M]afia, LM blue paint, Rangers^, ***SK&cz Wariors***, Czech nuclear Team, Slovensky Tym, SlovenskyTym, SlovakiaTeam, masters cz, LM paint, Rangers^, copyreaders, CZ&sk Warriors, Assassins B team, life expectancy, Only 3 Gangsters, Only 4, Only Ellita Warriors, Only Ellita Warriors, Only Ellita Warriors, Only Masters, Only Masters, black night, Only Masters, OnlyMastersTeamB, only 4 newbies, elita, The 4 Rookies, UnDeRGrOuND, Czech Team, #team_wait, Inferno, police, Dragon Force, You Too, OnlyForFour, Need ugly players, Light in the Darkness, Emirates, Smear Fighters, CommandoGaming, .Snp|, European Elite forces, New Era, Team easY, Rockz, Only Masters, foxier esports team , ReFleXionS, MeMi Juniors, Three Kings, Second To None, detoxication, Tyrannosaurus.rex, Corporation oF Tyrannosaurus.rex, Czech b team, InFernaL CoRp, Bara a Zbyna, #team_wait
ICQ Number:   565476760
Forum Name:   hoksa
Location:   Slovak republic
Email:   nikeplayy@azet.sk
Real Name:   hoksa

Biography:
I���´m noob but np live go...


Profile for up ||Player ID:   62198
Names registered:   up, rado, dnb, 2010, 1nani, kick, sixtynine, iloveelectro, wait, hornymom
Former Clans:   Bara a Zbyna, CzechStars, road to hell, #team_wait, radicals Against scum, Team 4ever , apex, Bio Hazard, Fear Without End, Overpowered, Czech Team, NeVerlAnD, Revolution Deathsquad, 1ball, NoIChuj, team rQ, NARCISM, infernal corporation 2010, #nSn, Team Crux, Forgotten
ICQ Number:   384971927
Location:   SLOVAKIA
Age:   18
Real Name:   Jamal skywalker


Profile for dusky ||Player ID:   62713
Names registered:   dusky, xxxdusky


Profile for vodafonehu ||Player ID:   79540
Names registered:   vodafonehu, asie, kaleidoscope, mrkokain, iretopb, dusanko, sexylol, hunhun, desperado, corpdesperado
Former Clans:   Team : Heroes Rockz, For Flag Outrunners, PuRe SkiLLeRz., 0nly Gods, 7up gaming, Bara a Zbyna, Luckers Team, Inteligents Players, OmIniX, Second To None, Fear Without End, Sammy and Enis, Need ugly players, Team skc, Old Partners, Cista Elite Team , iNfanTic Team
Real Name:   Michael
ICQ Number:   421038450
Age:   21
Location:   hungary

Biography:
Hi, Im Micheal. Im 20 years old. I played long time CoD 2, so i rockz in this game too. Im magyar!


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Committee voted on 256 days.

[Sporti]

wtf so much multi^^

[Aveiro]

gj, i think this is his next multiacc, but im not sure.

Player ID:   160387
Name registered:   pepikcom

[pvtjimmy]

gj, i think this is his next multiacc, but im not sure.

Player ID:   160387
Name registered:   pepikcom

Noooooo..... I hoped we could finally close our "case nani" 

[Legendz]

how is he able to evade this ban new net and hardware everytime? lmao

[Bundy]

lmfao i know it. And he dont have wh or something ?

[MrPeach]

I think you guys are happy now. EVERYBODY JUMP

[jitspoe]

how is he able to evade this ban new net and hardware everytime? lmao

I'm still adding hardware id's.

[MyeRs]

Really? I don't even know who NaNi is, but it's still ridiculous...

It's his first offense, and multiple accounts at that... and you're giving him 256 days? I remember a guy got banned for multiple accounts, and you(Jitspoe) said: Come clean about all your accounts so you don't get caught later, the amount of accounts doesn't change the ban. Sure, he had a lot of accounts and broke the rules, and probably did not cooperate the well in this, but he shouldn't have to. Jitspoe can see who's played on his account, he receives his ban for those his stories doesn't work with, and then if he doesn't come clean he receives a new ban the next time he gets caught with a multi.... It's ridiculous to toss out a 256day ban on a first offence just because a guy didn't cooperate.

Please, do set the rules and stop changing them. Multiple account 1st offence is a 16 day ban. When did this change? Why do different people get different treatment? If he caused extra hassle during the course of this, or there's information the community hasn't seen, then sure raise it abit, maybe double it. But come on, it's multiple accounts and a 1st offence and you're giving the same ban HomingBullet got on his 4th time hacking?

So to sum it up, having many multiple accounts and lying about it is equivalent to hacking, coming back, hacking, coming back, hacking, coming back, hacking. Alright, good to know!!!

Is this a new standard? Or, is the next 1st offence multiple account case back to 16 days? Please, do explain.

[webhead]

It may not be the first time he's had multis but it's the first time he's been banned for them -- so I don't see how the ban time should be multiplied because of past committee failures to prosecute. I mean, that's not how it's been handled with all other cases. First enacted ban = first offense.

Now, if he's already been caught evading bans, then sure, his time should be increased.

[pvtjimmy]

Please, do explain.

This guy was reported several times and every time accounts got reported, he just made new ones. Considering he should have been banned every time he got reported with another new account, this would make at least 256 days. Furthermore he's been blocking every contact the committee has tried to make with him  to sort out these account-mess (same for his brother, who also owns a forbidden amount of accounts).

lmfao i know it. And he dont have wh or something ?

On top of all of the accounts, there have also been countless rumors on him having hacks. Unfortunately, there's not enough evidence yet. He's been sharing a lot with his buddy Snox, who has been banned more than once. I guess NaNi was just a little smarter, so he never got caught.

In case Nani and Jano want to come clean about their past now that they're banned, they should contact me (ICQ 457457979) or any of the other committee members. In case they come clean about everything, I think we can cut the ban to "normal" proportions.


(once again, whoever thinks they can do better than the current committee: <click>

[MyeRs]

The committee failing to find proof on him, or him not cooperating, doesn't change anything.

You HAD proof, Jitspoe saw who played on the computer... Did NaNi just decide to cooperate? Or did you go ahead and vote a ban? I'm assuming it was the 2nd choice... So why couldn't you do this before? You obviously didn't just randomly get more information unless he cooperated. So, the committee could of done this before and didn't, that's the committee not the player. When making an account there is a rule stated against Multiple Accounts, but nowhere does it say you must be easily accessible or you must cooperate with a committee.

YOU guys went ahead and voted based off his actions, not his violations... it's his first ban, so you can't assume anything about prior bans that would've happened. If a guy has 3 accounts he deserves 32 days? 16 for the 2nd account, then another 16 for the 3rd? Since, he could've been banned before making it if the Committee was faster, technically? That's not how anything was every stated, just like cooperating was never a rule. Cooperating sure does help when you want people to vote less, but it shouldn't get a guy 256 days for a multiple account ban just cause he wasn't cooperating. Lets be serious.

Rumors of hacking is NOTHING. You cannot raise a ban time because of RUMORS. If that was true, there would be NOBODY left in this game. There's no proof of that, just like in most of the committee applications of current committee members, you wouldn't ban somebody unless you had 100% proof, so this potential hacking should not have any impact on the length of the ban, since there's no proof. I've clanned with uR, doesn't mean I hacked. He may very well hack, I have no idea, but until there's proof you cannot hold him on that.

As I said before, to sum this all up:
- There is no rule intact for cooperation, it's just something that will help get ban-time reduced... but definitely shouldn't get it raised.
- It was his first time being banned, you can't assume that it should be higher cause he should've been banned before.
- The hacking is just a rumor, nothing more, and shouldn't affect his ban time.
- It was stated before that no matter how many multiple accounts a guy had, he would get 16 days for multiple accounts so he should come clean about all of them. If he doesn't come clean, then when he's unbanned he could get banned again for the multiple accounts he didn't tell.
- 256 days for first offence multiple accounts is a joke.

[MOFO]

Myers why are u putting up these pointless battles. there not gonna change there decision. its pointless to waste time on subjects like this. and wtf? all this this still doesnt explain whether the hacks were thrown into the ban time. because if that was the case then i'm pretty sure its 16 + 64 = 80 days. and the evading the committee and such doesnt count as evading a ban since the ban wasn't already issued. so there really doesnt account for nothing.
as myers said rumors doesnt count for anything.

[Spook]

What's the phone number to your school? I need to issue a formal complaint.

[pvtjimmy]

just to clear things up a little more:

The rumors about hacks are not considered into this bantime. The part in my post about the hacks was a reply to Bundy's question whether he has used hacks.

Furthermore, the Nani/Jano case is under discussion since January 16 2009. Many of the above accounts have been created after the start of the topic in the committee section. If I didn't miscount, we have 13 accounts that were used actively by Nani and/or Jano (confirmed brothers), and 10 more accounts that were probably shared with other people.


@Myers; for once I agree with MOFO. I know you try to fight for justice, but in this case I don't think you're right to do so. You start your post by saying you don't know who Nani is, which is probably also the reason you don't understand this bantime. Have a look at the euro's who posted before you: I don't see any negative reactions in their posts...

[MyeRs]

People not caring about the lengthy ban time doesn't change whether it's a fair ban time, just like me not knowing who he is. That just shows I don't have an opinion based off who it is, just based off what was done.

I realize you're not going to change the decision, but I'm trying to get a standard set. You seem to think because of who 'NaNi/JaNo' is, it's okay for it to be higher, basing some of the ban based off him? Or did I mis-understand that?

The committee being slow shouldn't affect your ban. If you're caught hacking, you can get a time to come clean about 'everything' to reduce your ban time. If you have 1 hack, or 20 hacks, your ban time gets reduced. He should've gotten banned for what was known (a much shorter ban time) -- and then had the chance to come clean about all the accounts, if he didn't then sure, pile on the bans for the next multiple account, and the ones after that.

Half this community thinks Multiple Account bans are pointless, (which can be backed up by a lot of multiple account ban threads). It's not cheating, not gaining an advantage, it's creating a new identity. I understand why the rule's in place, but I do not understand the reason to ban somebody for 8 or 9 months because he had a lot of them. A lot of multi's gets the same ban as a guy who hacked A LOT of times. That does not make sense to me in the slightest.

I'm not trying to lower his ban time, because I realize that's not going to happen. I would like to maybe convince some of the committee it was a ridiculous amount of time, sure, but really I rather just a standard be set so a person's background or whatnot can't affect their situation this much more. I've seen people get banned with 6-10 multiple accounts for 16 days. They probably made more accounts after being investigated and/or reported, but the standard changes in just about every case based off who the person is.