Bug: Caustics

[Eiii]

The caustics are great, but there's a small bug with them. They show up on all sides of the walls that are in water, which is usually okay, except when it's a "tunnel" of water.

Look in 2fort5, it's pretty obvious.

[jitspoe]

Not really much I can do about that -- if the surface is underwater, it gets caustics.

With the new map format, however, I might use "caustics maps" that allow for controlled levels of caustics on surfaces.

[Eiii]

New map format? like, not BSP anymore, or just the new engine?

[jitspoe]

Haven't decided if I'm going to use BSP trees or not.  Read here for more details: http://www.quakesrc.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4229

[Eiii]

Use Gmax, or i will kill you. Gmax owns all.

OOH! OOH!
Since Gmax doesn't use polygons, you can have it render the polygons in-game. Then, there could be a option, to have detail. Then, you can still put most of the power in the graphics card, and the people with crappy ones can just turn it down.

[jitspoe]

gmax doesn't use polygons? o.0

I do plan to have scaleable LOD so that people can adjust the detail level.

[Eiii]

It just uses tons and tons. and tons. Have you ever used gmax?

[jitspoe]

A little... I'm pretty sure you can control the polygons.  Wonder if it can export ASE.

[Eiii]

Can Q2 render ASE?

And what is ASE?

[jitspoe]

No.

3dsmax's ASCII export format.

[Eiii]

I saw somewhere a version of Q2 that rendered Q3 mapfiles... if you had Q3. It was hosted on planetquake, you should check it out, jits.

[jitspoe]

It's like $3k to license the q3 map compilers.

[Eiii]

We can totally raise the money.

[jitspoe]

Meh, I don't think it's worth it -- the q3 level format isn't THAT big of an advancement over q2's.  Besides, Carmack is open-sourcing Quake3 soon.

[Eiii]

Until then, work on the engine thingy. It'll do for now.