Author Topic: Standard Dialect of C and C++ (Read 12695 times)

Garrett · « **on:** October 27, 2007, 09:19:54 AM »

What is the standard dialect of C and C++? What dialect does DP use? Would anyone be able to show me a standard C and C++ Tutorial because most of the things I found on Google were just garbage.

cusoman · « **Reply #1 on:** October 27, 2007, 10:40:59 AM »

Hello Garrett, Google worked nice for me...
http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/

lol oh well.
Also, by dialect i think you mean syntax, and the syntax of c++ is the syntax of c++, no other way to say it.
And DP was coded in C using the VC++ compiler.
-Cusoman

Garrett · « **Reply #2 on:** October 27, 2007, 11:52:04 AM »

The tutorial i had started reading was used with Unix.

Garrett · « **Reply #3 on:** October 28, 2007, 09:36:01 AM »

How much of a difference are there between a UNIX dialect and the standard dialect.

cusoman · « **Reply #4 on:** October 28, 2007, 01:32:45 PM »

ummm, unix is an operating system.

similar to linux. so if you learned how code in c++ on a linux based system, the application would not run on windows. Thats why in the paintball 2 source there is the windows version to compile, and the linux version to compile. u can compile linux-based, or in this case unix-based applications on windows, just not run them. they use different syntax.
-Cusoman

lekky · « **Reply #5 on:** October 28, 2007, 02:14:20 PM »

java ftw

Garrett · « **Reply #6 on:** October 28, 2007, 02:24:14 PM »

Java doesn't have different syntax right? It ports to different a different OS easily? So if I would want to write any type of program in C / C++ for the windows OS, I should learn the standard version correct?

Zorchenhimer · « **Reply #7 on:** October 28, 2007, 03:22:40 PM »

They do not use different syntax. They use different libraries and some different means of doing things. But, C++ is C++. If they used different syntax, then they would not be the same language.

Garrett · « **Reply #8 on:** October 28, 2007, 03:47:47 PM »

The different libraries correspond with the OS then?

lekky · « **Reply #9 on:** October 28, 2007, 04:12:04 PM »

Garrett, these dialects you speak of are with regards to the different C++ compilers. But they should all support the standard C++ functions so you don't even need to worry about this if you're just starting out. Forget about it until you get the basics down ok?

Or better yet learn Java and clear your mind of different OS support

Garrett · « **Reply #10 on:** October 28, 2007, 04:34:17 PM »

Haha. Thanks for the help. I'm learning Java in school in 3 months so I'll be taking your advise.

jitspoe · « **Reply #11 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:43:05 PM »

Java is evil. If you want to write applications that can easily compile and run on multiple operating systems, just use something like SDL.

Zorchenhimer · « **Reply #12 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:55:39 PM »

Quote from: jitspoe on October 29, 2007, 07:43:05 PM

Java is the devil Bobby Boucher.

Deranged · « **Reply #13 on:** November 03, 2007, 12:26:45 PM »

Just to polish this off, In general all major C++ compilers these days have at least 99% compliance with the ISO standard for C++. The major differences come when you go to use things like sockets(wsa_2 on windows, sockets on unix/linux/mac/bsd/etc), and even then they are very similar in use..

Quote from: lekky on October 28, 2007, 04:12:04 PM

Forget about it until you get the basics down ok?

Good advice

Quote from: lekky on October 28, 2007, 04:12:04 PM

Or better yet learn Java and clear your mind of different OS support

Bad advice

lekky · « **Reply #14 on:** November 03, 2007, 02:13:07 PM »

Quote from: Deranged on November 03, 2007, 12:26:45 PM

Bad advice

Depends.

y00tz · « **Reply #15 on:** November 03, 2007, 03:06:38 PM »

Quote from: lekky on November 03, 2007, 02:13:07 PM

Depends.

It seriously does. If you've got several people working on a project and you need a quick and dirty tool, Java can be the best route to go.

lekky · « **Reply #16 on:** November 03, 2007, 03:31:06 PM »

Quote from: y00tz on November 03, 2007, 03:06:38 PM

It seriously does. If you've got several people working on a project and you need a quick and dirty tool, Java can be the best route to go.

Java is worth of a better example than that.

y00tz · « **Reply #17 on:** November 03, 2007, 03:33:21 PM »

I didn't say Java was a dirty tool... I've never made a web service with Java, just .NET, I just feel that even C and/or C++ purists can use Java in a practical fashion, regardless of their capacity or need. It seems like even when I agree with you these days you have to refute

sk89q · « **Reply #18 on:** November 03, 2007, 05:22:06 PM »

Quote from: y00tz on November 03, 2007, 03:06:38 PM

It seriously does. If you've got several people working on a project and you need a quick and dirty tool, Java can be the best route to go.

It depends on what kind of tool you need, because Java is not quick.

lekky · « **Reply #19 on:** November 03, 2007, 05:24:12 PM »

Quote from: sk89q on November 03, 2007, 05:22:06 PM

It depends on what kind of tool you need, because Java is not quick.

We have already know that it depends.

Quote from: lekky on November 03, 2007, 02:13:07 PM

Depends.

Java is not quick? Maurice Greene is not quick.