Evolution

[jitspoe]

After some debates on IRC the other night, I'm curious what people's beliefs are on the subject.

[Cobo]

yes and ill always will

[Inside]

yap i do.

[Excalibur]

im a die hard Christian to the end.

[Eiii]

Which means...?

[loial21]

The Chicken or the Egg   


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I belive in love, logic and chaos.
 

[Eiii]

Chicken, because the egg that the most recent genetic generation laid had to be a genitic mutation of the old chicken to create the modern chicken.

And your answer didn't really answer mine that well.

[loial21]

Chicken, because the egg that the most recent genetic generation laid had to be a genitic mutation of the old chicken to create the modern chicken.

And your answer didn't really answer mine that well.

So where did the egg come from and so on and so on?

I belive in Creation and how far back does that go?

This is an astral physics question ....meh, nothing more.

And your answer didn't really answer mine that well.

Sorry !!

[Eiii]

The egg came from the post-modern chichen. That egg had a genetic mutation that made it into the modern chicken.

[b00nlander]

well, the really interesting question is:

what was before the "big bang", if there was such thing.
on the one hand, without matter there can not be time... so there was no "before"...  but was the universe created out of nothing? impossible, you would think...

many many unsolved questions... and yet, i believe in evolution (to get back on topic). and the egg:  well, first there was an egg, then the chicken, because as mentioned before, some "non-chicken creature" must have laid an egg.

[Eiii]

You've got the theroy wrong. Before the Big Bang, There was a different univerese. It happened because the universe imploded on itself or somthing. But I'm not an expert on the subject.

[b00nlander]

okay, and what was before that other universe which imploded?  i think you know where im going with this...

[jitspoe]

If there was another universe before the big bang, why would you need the big bang to create the universe?  Also, a bang is an explosion, not an implosion.  An implosion would be like... the big fwoomp!

Anyway, I think the big bang is a whole different debate. To those who believe in evolution: why?  Have you seen any kind of evidence yourself, or do you just believe it because somebody told you?

[Cobo]

the big bang its not an implossion it is an explosion but the thing that exploded was matter that was compressing itslelf until it fianlly exploded.

[Eiii]

The big bang kinda 'reset' the universe. Everything blew up, and lots of random stuff went flying around until it formed simple galaxies. Then planets, life, stuff.

[jitspoe]

Because as we've experienced over and over, explosions have a habit of creating organization and life.

[Eiii]

No, but if stuff just floats aroud for billions and billions of years, life tends to create itself.

[jitspoe]

Scientists have been attempting to create life for years in highly controlled envorinments without much luck, even when everything is "just right."  Life does not tend to create itself.  It tends not to.  Statistically, it'd be more probable to dump a bunch of car parts out of an airplane and end up with a Rolls-Royce, but when I see one driving down the street, I don't question whether or not it fell out of an airplane or not.

[IronFist]

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[Eiii]

Scientists have been attempting to create life for years in highly controlled envorinments without much luck, even when everything is "just right." Life does not tend to create itself. It tends not to. Statistically, it'd be more probable to dump a bunch of car parts out of an airplane and end up with a Rolls-Royce, but when I see one driving down the street, I don't question whether or not it fell out of an airplane or not.

If that was a analogy for creationism, it was a really bad one.