Author Topic: So blatant (Read 13111 times)

Deranged · « **on:** December 20, 2007, 09:09:47 PM »

Surprised it hasn't been reported before(seeing as their movement is horrible yet they somehow managed to beat(or almost beat) Ij)...

The clan in question is ]MT[, both members(triks and mag1c)

I have attached a demo that includes more than one instance of happenings like. triks disconnecting so mag1c is without recon, me crouching through hibd while mag1c was in his base the whole time, and mag1c spraying me in two shots. Another time in the demo(also sans-recon) I'm coming up from 2 and mag1c does a 90 degree turn to shoot me in the face.

I encourage other players in the match to post their demos(most importantly, zudd)

He blames it on "hearing", but due to the fact that dp has slim-to-no 3d sound, I'd have to put my doubts there. Also Ride was crouching up bd at one time and mag1c was just glaring at him the whole time through the wall.

If I'm wrong about this, and these nonames that appeared out of nowhere and can't move faster than half a mile per hour yet kill me in two shots aren't hacking, then sorry for the accusations.

Server: 69.93.11.66:27917 (GT CLASSIC MATCH 4)
Time: Around 8:25 pm, central time 12/20/07

Thinking it might be an older quake 2 hack, or a new hack that isn't yet in the detections.

Possible times of blatant hacking in MY demo:
WATCH FOR THEM GLARING THROUGH WALLS
The most obvious times are starred

19:30(starts spraying our window as I'm about to jump up)
**18:12(What's he looking at? oh.. major is sitting on the Y)
17:46(one shot in the face, no recon)
17:13(look at him watch major come up bd with speed with a gradual turn haha)
16:28(that's a nice place to spray randomly)
**13:44(two shots in the face coming up ladder 2)
13:06(lol)
12:50(staring at me coming off cat)
**11:33(runs forward, shoots twice, boom headshot)
from 11:00 to 10:20(lining right under zudd the whole time)
10:05(spraying hibd for no apparent reason)
**8:46(watching zudd through bd wall)
**8:27(knew he jumped bd without seeing him do the jump)
7:40(randomly runs from bd to spray fd and then back to bd)
6:40(maybe not, watching window intently)
6:25(staring through bd as he comes around corner, not looking through windows_

Major · « **Reply #1 on:** December 20, 2007, 09:12:14 PM »

it was really obvious because ive seen these kids in pubs and they were horrid...and the server was
69.93.11.66:27917
between 9 and 10pm on dec 20 2007

XtremeBain · « **Reply #2 on:** December 20, 2007, 09:13:20 PM »

Wow...

DaRkNeSS · « **Reply #3 on:** December 20, 2007, 09:14:31 PM »

Or maybe it's just that Jitspoe is gone and hasn't dealt with it yet.

Deranged · « **Reply #4 on:** December 20, 2007, 09:19:05 PM »

That's also a possibility. Just to add to this, we beat them like 50-5 just as short as maybe 6 weeks ago. And now they're magically thousands of times better.

As for the "it's not possible" mentality, jitspoe's hack detection is just a registry of known, oftenly used bots and hacks, it doesn't detect everything.

Blind faith in software is just foolishness

EDIT: we're compiling a list of times in the demo when the hacking was most obvious

zuddtN · « **Reply #5 on:** December 20, 2007, 09:36:23 PM »

demo ...

atmays · « **Reply #6 on:** December 20, 2007, 09:42:32 PM »

Yeah we matched them to and they did seem to have some sort of zgh. Like its like they know where your goin at all times.

Even though we won, we still was kind of curious. Not enough to guarantee they was hacking.

Major · « **Reply #7 on:** December 20, 2007, 09:43:15 PM »

times from deranged's demo
18:08 17:46 17:20 16:28 14:44 13:44 13:06 12:48 11:33 11:-10:30 10:30-9:30 7:40 6:40 6:25
these are the times that i have seen that looked suspicious most was 18:08 i think and also ride was annoying in this match lOl

coLa · « **Reply #8 on:** December 20, 2007, 09:44:49 PM »

no need to post up multiple demos. if it was obvious in the first one. it was obvious. when jitspoe returns he will deal with it.

Spook · « **Reply #9 on:** December 20, 2007, 09:46:13 PM »

I also noticed how much of an ass you were to your clan. But that's besides the point. As far as the demo goes, I would be able to do a lot of that just using my surround sound, but some of it did seem fishy.

HadeZ · « **Reply #10 on:** December 20, 2007, 09:51:16 PM »

I will state that although we have beaten them every-time bling and other cF members have camera'd them and made the same statements that deranged has. I will try to get demo's if you like. Just stating that even while winning same comments have been made and I can say we have matched them at least 8 times. Few shots had me scratching my head. To be honest I lag so often for some reason in DP it is hard for me to declare what is them and what is my connection. Hence why I would rely more on bling and other demo's.

Major · « **Reply #11 on:** December 20, 2007, 09:57:07 PM »

i think he may also be using an aim hack in the match because im watching him in a pub right now ill piost demo later and he has worse aim than a dog

Major · « **Reply #12 on:** December 20, 2007, 10:03:53 PM »

time 10:30-11 dec 20 gt pub same guy after the match

notice that his aim is terrible and in the match its spot on and he can barly keep even and than fishy shots start happening and he goes 16-7

Deranged · « **Reply #13 on:** December 20, 2007, 10:07:17 PM »

I appended my original post with times when their hacking was most apparent.

Spook: I was angry, I appologized to victor and max later(they know I love them)

The Rest: Yeah.. We usually beat them, but it's always close, and with the way they play, it shouldn't even be close...

We play them based on a non-biased system of choosing matches, and although we've always suspected something was up, we usually win so we didn't care.

Now they they beat us with the hacks, I finally got angry enough to report them

I hope the right course of action is taken with this.

EDIT: I'm trying to dig up demos of old matches that I have had with these guys, if any other clans have demo'd proof that can help get these guys banned, it would be nice if you contributed(except hades.. jk

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Mag1C · « **Reply #14 on:** December 20, 2007, 10:54:11 PM »

Man....aren't i good

yup i use my sound that's all. If i can calm u all just add my xfire(guimik) or msn (mik_a7x@hotmail.com) ill send you althose intercoursein demos and you'll see.Plus, i pass half of my time shooting in case someone gets in my way and it really works but it seems people think i hack dam so lame and by the way u never owned us 50-5 i got a couple screenshots of our mathes wich we won and that's the same for cF. Have a nice christmas!

coLa · « **Reply #15 on:** December 20, 2007, 10:58:29 PM »

always good to have both sides of the story.

Deranged · « **Reply #16 on:** December 20, 2007, 11:02:18 PM »

That still doesn't explain your friend triks, 18:15-18:08 in the demo(you must not have watched it), glaring from mid directly at blue Y through the wall where major was sitting. He didn't have recon because you were alive, yet he was looking exactly dead at major the whole time lol... I'd like to see HIS demos more than anything

Mag1C · « **Reply #17 on:** December 20, 2007, 11:07:36 PM »

I find this game fun and i hope i won't get banned cause some guys are complaining that I am better then them( or ''Hacking'' as they say) or because I random shot sometimes( or ''Wallhacking'' as they say).merry christmas once again yall! Keep up the game jitspoe!

Mag1C · « **Reply #18 on:** December 20, 2007, 11:10:28 PM »

About Triks well i guess this is the worse that could happen and will seem very susspicious but he has DeepFreeze on his comp and looses his demos unless he puts'em in a specified folder wich he doesnt do every match i i can sware that hes demo wouldbe exactly like mine without a hint of a hack.

HadeZ · « **Reply #19 on:** December 20, 2007, 11:15:47 PM »

all I am stating as I do not care about who is better then who or what skill someone has. None of this matters all I am stating is that regardless of win, loss, score, pertaining to these players same comments have been made. But i am so strict on especially the hack accusations that I never allow it to go public. Plus like I said I lag so often in a game (30 secs-1 minute apart) I personally have no clue. No need to flame or rage mag1c if you are innocent then just say I have nothing to be afraid etc etc. No need to turn this into some flame fest. on a P.S most comments were in-fact pertaining to Mag1c not so often to Triks, could be both. NO CLUE JUST STATING WHAT I HAVE WITNESSED.