Author Topic: lights in my map (Read 4338 times)

Nikademis · « **on:** January 05, 2008, 08:57:05 PM »

Ok, my problem is that I created a map that is kind of dark. I put a light in, it shines but not how i would like it, but it works. So, I copied it and placed it in the rest of the building, but they don't shine. This the Light box & the light entity that works

Eiii · « **Reply #1 on:** January 05, 2008, 09:25:32 PM »

If your map has leaks, it won't light correctly. Make sure there's no line of code saying ***LEAKED*** during the BSP compile. Other than that, I'm not entirely sure what you're asking.

Nikademis · « **Reply #2 on:** January 05, 2008, 09:33:59 PM »

No, i've read other posts and noticed the response of leaks I can say without a doubt there are no leaks. The only light that works is the one shown in the attachment. Here is a pic of the lights, 1 shines 1 doesn't, the one that doesn't shine was copied from the 1 that does.

I exported as QBSP then I exported as RELIGHT

Eiii · « **Reply #3 on:** January 05, 2008, 09:39:16 PM »

It looks like the one on the right has a reeeeeally low light value. Check to make sure it's the same as the other one.

Nikademis · « **Reply #4 on:** January 05, 2008, 09:42:18 PM »

It does, all I did was copy the one on the left and pasted it to where the on of the right is.

jitspoe · « **Reply #5 on:** January 05, 2008, 09:48:04 PM »

Looks like your map is open to the void (where do those windows lead?). Lighting won't work properly if the map isn't sealed and vised.

Nikademis · « **Reply #6 on:** January 05, 2008, 09:53:31 PM »

here is a screen shot, its a start of the map. it will have 4 buildings on each side. Its a place here in PA called concrete city, it was a place that kids used to play paintball at, now closed down

jitspoe · « **Reply #7 on:** January 05, 2008, 09:54:50 PM »

Do a leak check, just to be sure. Hard to tell much from that screenshot.

Nikademis · « **Reply #8 on:** January 05, 2008, 09:58:52 PM »

this is what i get when i export as relight. i could send the map file

c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles>call ..\compilers\qbsp -onlyents concrete_ci
ty

c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles>..\..\util\qbsp3 -onlyents concrete_city

----------- qbsp3 -----------
original code by id Software
Modified by Geoffrey DeWan
Revision 1.09
-----------------------------
onlyents = true
gamedir set to c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\
entering c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles\concrete_city.map
0 seconds elapsed

c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles>call ..\compilers\rad concrete_city
You should obtain the Arghrad 3.00 Test before lighting.
Unfortunately it can't be redistributed, so grab it here:
http://forums.gamedesign.net/viewtopic.php?t=49129
Then place arghrad.exe in c:\bsp\quake2\util
and delete the echo's from c:\bsp\quake2\pball\compilers\rad.bat
----------------------------------------------------------------

c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles>..\..\util\arghrad -gamedir C:\bsp\pball2\qu
ake2\pball concrete_city
----- ArghRad 3.00T9 by Tim Wright (Argh!) -----
----- TESTING VERSION, DO NOT REDISTRIBUTE -----
Modified from original source code by id Software

----- Settings -----
-gamedir set to C:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\ (game pak dir)
----- Load BSP File -----
reading c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles\concrete_city.bsp
no vis information, direct lighting only
----- Light World -----
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (0)
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (0)
----- Save BSP File -----
writing c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles\concrete_city.bsp
----- Time -----
1 seconds elapsed

c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles>call ..\compilers\runmap concrete_city
A subdirectory or file c:\games\paintball2\pball\maps\inprogress already exists.

c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles>copy concrete_city.bsp c:\games\paintball2\p
ball\maps\inprogress
1 file(s) copied.

c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles>c:

c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles>cd \games\paintball2

c:\Games\Paintball2>pause
Press any key to continue . . .

c:\Games\Paintball2>paintball2 +map inprogress/concrete_city

jitspoe · « **Reply #9 on:** January 05, 2008, 10:03:00 PM »

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no vis information, direct lighting only

That's your problem. Do a full compile.

Nikademis · « **Reply #10 on:** January 05, 2008, 10:10:05 PM »

i just a full compile, and now the map is bright where before it was dark, hard to see (which I wanted) using the light to make the room is bright . The precious screen shot is how I want the map to look, with all lights working the same, castin a glow

c----------- qbsp3 -----------
original code by id Software
Modified by Geoffrey DeWan
Revision 1.09
-----------------------------
gamedir set to c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\
entering c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles\concrete_city.map
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (0)
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (0)
writing c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles\concrete_city.prt
Writing c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles\concrete_city.bsp
1 seconds elapsed
----------- qvis3 -----------
original code by id Software
Modified by Geoffrey DeWan
Revision 1.03
-----------------------------
Test level not used in qvis3
reading c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles\concrete_city.bsp
reading c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles\concrete_city.prt
301 portalclusters
841 numportals
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (0)
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (14)
Average clusters visible: 159
Building PHS...
Average clusters hearable: 300
visdatasize:25282 compressed from 24080
writing c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles\concrete_city.bsp
14.0 seconds elapsed
You should obtain the Arghrad 3.00 Test before lighting.
Unfortunately it can't be redistributed, so grab it here:
http://forums.gamedesign.net/viewtopic.php?t=49129
Then place arghrad.exe in c:\bsp\quake2\util
and delete the echo's from c:\bsp\quake2\pball\compilers\rad.bat
----------------------------------------------------------------

----- ArghRad 3.00T9 by Tim Wright (Argh!) -----
----- TESTING VERSION, DO NOT REDISTRIBUTE -----
Modified from original source code by id Software

----- Settings -----
-gamedir set to C:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\ (game pak dir)
-chop set to 16.0 (surface patch size)
-extra enabled (extra quality light sampling)
----- Load BSP File -----
reading c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles\concrete_city.bsp
----- Light World -----

************ ERROR ************
MAX_PATCHES
A subdirectory or file c:\games\paintball2\pball\maps\inprogress already exists.

1 file(s) copied.
Press any key to continue . . .

jitspoe · « **Reply #11 on:** January 05, 2008, 10:23:06 PM »

The light program had an error. Your map has too much surface area.

Nikademis · « **Reply #12 on:** January 05, 2008, 10:26:57 PM »

the whole map has too much surface area, can you tell me what is an acceptbale area???

Eiii · « **Reply #13 on:** January 05, 2008, 10:30:27 PM »

Smaller than what you have now. Try scaling up some textures, and reducing the number of large, open areas.

jitspoe · « **Reply #14 on:** January 05, 2008, 10:44:57 PM »

well, that purple box is the absolute max a level can be. What you have is using most of that, which means it's really huge. Start small and work up. Also, avoid large boxes. They don't compile well.

Nikademis · « **Reply #15 on:** January 05, 2008, 10:55:01 PM »

well, actually i was starting big. then i play the map if it appears too big then i shorten it down. i understand the purple box deal. i was told by a friend that the fastvis rad was the way to go with compiling for lights. is that right? if i make the map small will the final compile make the lights work??? thanks for your help.......

sk89q · « **Reply #16 on:** January 06, 2008, 01:22:04 AM »

The final compile is recommended, but some larger maps will choke if you use the final compile. Fastvis rad otherwise would work, but I believe you also degrade the performance of your map.

jitspoe · « **Reply #17 on:** January 06, 2008, 06:50:05 PM »

You never want to use fastvis for a final product.

Nikademis · « **Reply #18 on:** January 09, 2008, 09:37:56 PM »

why not use fast visrad? i find there is a stutter in my map now that i have the lights working properly

Nikademis · « **Reply #19 on:** January 10, 2008, 12:51:02 AM »

final compile does not make lights work, fastvis rad does though. after playin for 20 seconds (roughly) there is a 3 second pause, then plays on normal. the map is primarily done, needs a few tweeks. the light in the worldspawn is set at 40

c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles>call ..\compilers\qbsp concrete_city2

c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles>..\..\util\qbsp3 concrete_city2
----------- qbsp3 -----------
original code by id Software
Modified by Geoffrey DeWan
Revision 1.09
-----------------------------
gamedir set to c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\
entering c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles\concrete_city2.map
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (1)
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (1)
writing c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles\concrete_city2.prt
Writing c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles\concrete_city2.bsp
3 seconds elapsed

c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles>call ..\compilers\vis -fast concrete_city2

c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles>..\..\util\qvis3 -fast concrete_city2

----------- qvis3 -----------
original code by id Software
Modified by Geoffrey DeWan
Revision 1.03
-----------------------------
fastvis = true
reading c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles\concrete_city2.bsp
reading c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles\concrete_city2.prt
1389 portalclusters
3679 numportals
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (6)
Average clusters visible: 1079
Building PHS...
Average clusters hearable: 1388
visdatasize:487908 compressed from 488928
writing c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles\concrete_city2.bsp
6.0 seconds elapsed

c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles>call ..\compilers\rad -chopcurve 128 concret
e_city2
You should obtain the Arghrad 3.00 Test before lighting.
Unfortunately it can't be redistributed, so grab it here:
http://forums.gamedesign.net/viewtopic.php?t=49129
Then place arghrad.exe in c:\bsp\quake2\util
and delete the echo's from c:\bsp\quake2\pball\compilers\rad.bat
----------------------------------------------------------------

c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles>..\..\util\arghrad -gamedir C:\bsp\pball2\qu
ake2\pball -chopcurve 128 concrete_city2
----- ArghRad 3.00T9 by Tim Wright (Argh!) -----
----- TESTING VERSION, DO NOT REDISTRIBUTE -----
Modified from original source code by id Software

----- Settings -----
-gamedir set to C:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\ (game pak dir)
-chopcurve set to 128.0 (curve surface patch size)
----- Load BSP File -----
reading c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles\concrete_city2.bsp
----- Light World -----
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (64)
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (480)
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (1)
----- Save BSP File -----
writing c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles\concrete_city2.bsp
----- Time -----
566 seconds elapsed

c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles>call ..\compilers\runmap concrete_city2
A subdirectory or file c:\games\paintball2\pball\maps\inprogress already exists.

c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles>copy concrete_city2.bsp c:\games\paintball2\
pball\maps\inprogress
1 file(s) copied.

c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles>c:

c:\bsp\pball2\quake2\pball\mapfiles>cd \games\paintball2

c:\Games\Paintball2>pause
Press any key to continue . . .

c:\Games\Paintball2>paintball2 +map inprogress/concrete_city2