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ashkenaz

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Feature: Particle Emitters
« on: May 05, 2008, 12:14:10 PM »
i would like to see particle emitters for maps, it would be fun to fight in a burning wreckage. you could have fire, water, dust, smoke, haze. Anubis.... with dust clouds.  :P
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ViciouZ

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Re: Feature: Particle Emitters
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2008, 12:31:16 PM »
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They're basic but they do the trick. We need to get rid of SZ_Getspace overflows to fully use them though.
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ashkenaz

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Re: Feature: Particle Emitters
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2008, 12:33:57 PM »
exactly, so why not implament them fully?
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ViciouZ

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Re: Feature: Particle Emitters
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2008, 12:38:52 PM »
Well, I think jits said that fixing the SZ_GetSpace overflow errors means a complete rewrite of the netcode which would break all backwards compatibility.
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KnacK

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Re: Feature: Particle Emitters
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2008, 12:52:42 PM »
Quote from: ViciouZ on May 05, 2008, 12:38:52 PM
Well, I think jits said that fixing the SZ_GetSpace overflow errors means a complete rewrite of the netcode which would break all backwards compatibility.


For the love of beef, WHY DO WE HAVE BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY?!?!?!?!
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ashkenaz

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Re: Feature: Particle Emitters
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2008, 01:02:14 PM »
For the love of beef, WHAT IS BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Zorchenhimer

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Re: Feature: Particle Emitters
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2008, 01:05:05 PM »
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ashkenaz

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Re: Feature: Particle Emitters
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2008, 01:10:27 PM »
i hate reading... >.<
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ashkenaz

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Re: Feature: Particle Emitters
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2008, 01:13:44 PM »
maybe its time to upgrade anyway....
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Zorchenhimer

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Re: Feature: Particle Emitters
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2008, 01:20:52 PM »
Quote from: ashkenaz on May 05, 2008, 01:10:27 PM
i hate reading... >.<

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backwards_compatible
In certain contexts, people will sometimes refer to syntax additions or library changes that would break previous compilers or runtimes as "backward incompatible". In this case, the meaning of backward compatibility has been overloaded to mean both "new server is compatible with old input"
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ashkenaz

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Re: Feature: Particle Emitters
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2008, 01:22:00 PM »
i ended up reading it anyways.... we have to upgrade
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jitspoe

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Re: Feature: Particle Emitters
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2008, 01:28:35 PM »
It's more than just backward compatibility - if you're getting those errors, it means you're exceeding the amount of data that can be transferred in 1 UDP packet.  Once you go above ~1k in a packet, the packets need to be broken up and reassembled, which gets ugly, and drastically increases the chances of packet loss.

You can already do stuff with particles - you just can't go overboard.
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ashkenaz

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Re: Feature: Particle Emitters
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2008, 01:31:26 PM »
well im saying like how you can do that in hammer and stuff and then play garys mod with tons of particles    it should be implemented
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jitspoe

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Re: Feature: Particle Emitters
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2008, 01:43:43 PM »
You're going to have to be a little more specific as to what you want.  What are you wanting to add to your map?
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ashkenaz

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Re: Feature: Particle Emitters
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2008, 01:46:35 PM »
a but load of smoke fire and haze, burning forest fight ^^
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jitspoe

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Re: Feature: Particle Emitters
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2008, 02:33:03 PM »
You can already do fire effects without particles.  You could probably do something similar for smoke as well.  What you propose, though, would probably bring most people's computers to their knees.
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ashkenaz

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Re: Feature: Particle Emitters
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2008, 07:30:16 AM »
map fog would help to get rid of the haze and smoke effects, but fire i want to have 9 or 10 round sprites go upwards for a few seconds, then disappear and reappear again at the bottom. smoke would be the same thing but it would go out and up.
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jitspoe

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Re: Feature: Particle Emitters
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2008, 08:58:54 AM »
I think you can probably accomplish a lot of what you want with the existing smoke particles and animated flame textures, but I went ahead and put this up for vote anyway: http://dplogin.com/dplogin/featurevote/feature.php?id=10142
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ashkenaz

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Re: Feature: Particle Emitters
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2008, 10:11:36 AM »
THANK YOU ^^
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