Author Topic: Feature/Roadblock: Backwards Compatibility (Read 6649 times)

KnacK · « **on:** May 05, 2008, 01:08:04 PM »

Why do we need backward compatibility?

How many features or enhancements are we missing because of backwards compatibility.

I propose getting rid of backward compatibility in order for Jits to exercise enhancements, fixes, and features, that might not be possible if we maintain a 100% backward compatible client and server. ( yes, this goes for server too)

Zorchenhimer · « **Reply #1 on:** May 05, 2008, 01:08:43 PM »

Darn, you beat me to it.

KnacK · « **Reply #2 on:** May 05, 2008, 01:09:17 PM »

Garrett · « **Reply #3 on:** May 05, 2008, 02:37:51 PM »

I like the idea. If we could have just one new release that is no longer backwards with the previous builds, only good things can come.

Cameron · « **Reply #4 on:** May 05, 2008, 08:40:45 PM »

Well before this happens servers are going to have to put a message up because I see people connecting with Build 16 still....

Eiii · « **Reply #5 on:** May 05, 2008, 09:58:29 PM »

I'm pretty sure the 'You can't connect anymore' will be their wakeup call.

ashkenaz · « **Reply #6 on:** May 06, 2008, 07:24:48 AM »

Hell yes, i so agree, the game can have so much more enhancements without backwards compatibility.

ViciouZ · « **Reply #7 on:** May 06, 2008, 09:31:10 AM »

A benefit: If this means people on old clients can't connect anymore, we can say goodbye to ZGH and Penix!

ashkenaz · « **Reply #8 on:** May 06, 2008, 10:10:52 AM »

trust me they will get new clients

ViciouZ · « **Reply #9 on:** May 06, 2008, 10:17:58 AM »

I believe penix was designed to work with quake 2, and ZGH people aren't able to login meaning they're still on an old build. So, unless you're going to make some, that's some cheating out.

ashkenaz · « **Reply #10 on:** May 06, 2008, 11:27:21 AM »

why dont they get new clients rather than stick with the old

ViciouZ · « **Reply #11 on:** May 06, 2008, 12:53:03 PM »

I don't think you understand: I'm saying this would be a benefit, because people who use wallhacks like ZGH and penix will no longer be able to play.

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ashkenaz · « **Reply #12 on:** May 06, 2008, 12:58:23 PM »

oh yea, i forgot those were hacks. come to think of it, if we break backward compatibility we can have a hacker firewall sorta thing (which never would be possible)

Xena · « **Reply #13 on:** May 06, 2008, 07:47:03 PM »

sounds like plan... or backward compatibility to the last 3 builds only...

Eiii · « **Reply #14 on:** May 06, 2008, 08:07:05 PM »

Quote from: KoreMagna on May 06, 2008, 07:47:03 PM

sounds like plan... or backward compatibility to the last 3 builds only...

That'd be a pain to keep track of. I think it'd be best for the development of this game if backwards compatability was disregarded entirely. If it works with the old builds, great, but that's not the goal.

Xena · « **Reply #15 on:** May 06, 2008, 08:10:36 PM »

so.... are we trying to get people updating to latest version? cause i thought the point was to get rid of people using older clients like build 16 and force them to use the latest one...

also, is it not possible to get a "detect" function on the server side to detect minimum build requirement?

haha, i like the idea of "you can't connect anymore because the version you're using IS TOO FRIGGIN' OLD!!!!"

Cameron · « **Reply #16 on:** May 06, 2008, 08:28:18 PM »

This will be fun getting servers to be updated every build.

Eiii · « **Reply #17 on:** May 06, 2008, 08:50:20 PM »

Yep. Denying older uses access just for the sake of denying them access isn't justified at all, but I don't think progress should be held back because some people are too lazy to update their builds.

Cameron · « **Reply #18 on:** May 06, 2008, 08:52:25 PM »

Picasso will be on his feet then. Doubt Snipen will bother to update them

. Can't wait for Build 21 on the GT Servers. Warmup Mode.

ashkenaz · « **Reply #19 on:** May 07, 2008, 07:54:19 AM »

i just hope we get rid of all this EVENTUALLY