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KnacK

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Bill Gates *IS* Human!
« on: June 26, 2008, 06:18:56 AM »
I saw this and thought I would repost it.  It is a classic issue that other MAJOR software companies have, not just Microshaft.

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With Bill Gates saying good-bye to Microsoft this week, we're realizing more by the day how much we'll miss the guy. And when reading through the many interviews floating around this week, we came across this jewel from 2003. A leaked memo from Microsoft, it's several pages of Gates just laying into his design and programming staff for—among other issues—his personal experience when trying to install Windows Moviemaker. And it's a very fulfilling read if you've ever been frustrated by a Microsoft product.

From: Bill Gates
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:05 AM
To: Jim Allchin
Cc: Chris Jones (WINDOWS); Bharat Shah (NT); Joe Peterson; Will Poole; Brian Valentine; Anoop Gupta (RESEARCH)
Subject: Windows Usability Systematic degradation flame

I am quite disappointed at how Windows Usability has been going backwards and the program management groups don't drive usability issues.

Let me give you my experience from yesterday.

I decided to download (Moviemaker) and buy the Digital Plus pack ... so I went to Microsoft.com. They have a download place so I went there.

The first 5 times I used the site it timed out while trying to bring up the download page. Then after an 8 second delay I got it to come up.

This site is so slow it is unusable.

It wasn't in the top 5 so I expanded the other 45.

These 45 names are totally confusing. These names make stuff like: C:\Documents and Settings\billg\My Documents\My Pictures seem clear.

They are not filtered by the system ... and so many of the things are strange.

I tried scoping to Media stuff. Still no moviemaker. I typed in movie. Nothing. I typed in movie maker. Nothing.

So I gave up and sent mail to Amir saying - where is this Moviemaker download? Does it exist?

So they told me that using the download page to download something was not something they anticipated.

They told me to go to the main page search button and type movie maker (not moviemaker!).

I tried that. The site was pathetically slow but after 6 seconds of waiting up it came.

I thought for sure now I would see a button to just go do the download.

In fact it is more like a puzzle that you get to solve. It told me to go to Windows Update and do a bunch of incantations.

This struck me as completely odd. Why should I have to go somewhere else and do a scan to download moviemaker?

So I went to Windows update. Windows Update decides I need to download a bunch of controls. (Not) just once but multiple times where I get to see weird dialog boxes.

Doesn't Windows update know some key to talk to Windows?

Then I did the scan. This took quite some time and I was told it was critical for me to download 17megs of stuff.

This is after I was told we were doing delta patches to things but instead just to get 6 things that are labeled in the SCARIEST possible way I had to download 17meg.

So I did the download. That part was fast. Then it wanted to do an install. This took 6 minutes and the machine was so slow I couldn't use it for anything else during this time.

What the heck is going on during those 6 minutes? That is crazy. This is after the download was finished.

Then it told me to reboot my machine. Why should I do that? I reboot every night — why should I reboot at that time?

So I did the reboot because it INSISTED on it. Of course that meant completely getting rid of all my Outlook state.

So I got back up and running and went to Windows Updale again. I forgot why I was in Windows Update at all since all I wanted was to get Moviemaker.

So I went back to Microsoft.com and looked at the instructions. I have to click on a folder called WindowsXP. Why should I do that? Windows Update knows I am on Windows XP.

What does it mean to have to click on that folder? So I get a bunch of confusing stuff but sure enough one of them is Moviemaker.

So I do the download. The download is fast but the Install takes many minutes. Amazing how slow this thing is.

At some point I get told I need to go get Windows Media Series 9 to download.

So I decide I will go do that. This time I get dialogs saying things like "Open" or "Save". No guidance in the instructions which to do. I have no clue which to do.

The download is fast and the install takes 7 minutes for this thing.

So now I think I am going to have Moviemaker. I go to my add/remove programs place to make sure it is there.

It is not there.

What is there? The following garbage is there. Microsoft Autoupdate Exclusive test package, Microsoft Autoupdate Reboot test package, Microsoft Autoupdate testpackage1. Microsoft AUtoupdate testpackage2, Microsoft Autoupdate Test package3.

Someone decided to trash the one part of Windows that was usable? The file system is no longer usable. The registry is not usable. This program listing was one sane place but now it is all crapped up.

But that is just the start of the crap. Later I have listed things like Windows XP Hotfix see Q329048 for more information. What is Q329048? Why are these series of patches listed here? Some of the patches just things like Q810655 instead of saying see Q329048 for more information.

What an absolute mess.

Moviemaker is just not there at all.

So I give up on Moviemaker and decide to download the Digital Plus Package.

I get told I need to go enter a bunch of information about myself.

I enter it all in and because it decides I have mistyped something I have to try again. Of course it has cleared out most of what I typed.

I try (typing) the right stuff in 5 times and it just keeps clearing things out for me to type them in again.

So after more than an hour of craziness and making my programs list garbage and being scared and seeing that Microsoft.com is a terrible website I haven't run Moviemaker and I haven't got the plus package.

The lack of attention to usability represented by these experiences blows my mind. I thought we had reached a low with Windows Network places or the messages I get when I try to use 802.11. (don't you just love that root certificate message?)

When I really get to use the stuff I am sure I will have more feedback.


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Re: Bill Gates *IS* Human!
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2008, 08:50:30 AM »
I didn't know that he was leaving microsoft. Is he retiring on his extremely large fortune, or is he going to another company?

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Re: Bill Gates *IS* Human!
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2008, 08:50:56 AM »
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So they told me that using the download page to download something was not something they anticipated.

lol

Edit: Wow, that was in 2003, and it's still like impossible to download movie maker.  I just tried.  The page told me to install SP2.

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Re: Bill Gates *IS* Human!
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2008, 08:52:18 AM »
Also I heard that when he dies he won't give his money to his child because he doesn't want them to become like Paris Hilton.

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Re: Bill Gates *IS* Human!
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2008, 11:51:50 AM »
I didn't know that he was leaving microsoft. Is he retiring on his extremely large fortune, or is he going to another company?

Retiring.  Kinda...

He is gonna have three offices.  One at Microsoft, another at his charity thing, and another private/personal one.  But I don't think he will be at the MS office that much.



... and I only know that cuz I read it on CNet a few days ago.  I'm not just wierd...

KnacK

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Re: Bill Gates *IS* Human!
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2008, 12:35:46 PM »

yes you are....

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Re: Bill Gates *IS* Human!
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2008, 12:55:06 PM »
Hes retiring to play DP2 Full Time.

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Re: Bill Gates *IS* Human!
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2008, 01:17:38 PM »
yes you are....

But that wasn't the whole reason.  :D

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Re: Bill Gates *IS* Human!
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2008, 03:35:07 PM »
;p

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Re: Bill Gates *IS* Human!
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2008, 11:34:15 PM »
he is retiring to go on warp tour and smoke mass weed with his hippy friends from the 60's :)

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Re: Bill Gates *IS* Human!
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2008, 08:55:58 AM »
he is retiring to go on warp tour and smoke mass weed with his hippy friends from the 60's :)
The American Dream.

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Re: Bill Gates *IS* Human!
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2008, 03:46:37 PM »
What?? Bill Gates retires? Is he sure? This action can not be undone!
;)

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Re: Bill Gates *IS* Human!
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2008, 10:52:27 PM »
"You have requested retirement, Cancel or Allow"

XD

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Re: Bill Gates *IS* Human!
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2008, 07:29:36 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2008, 04:21:17 AM »
Also I heard that when he dies he won't give his money to his child because he doesn't want them to become like Paris Hilton.
wow lol. wait he has kids?

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Re: Bill Gates *IS* Human!
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2008, 08:36:41 AM »
They're about your age... does your interwebs not have Wikipedia?

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Re: Bill Gates *IS* Human!
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2008, 03:21:06 PM »
my interwebs has wiki but i don't use it to search up bill gates.

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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2008, 04:48:28 PM »
on wiki i mostly search up video games. i want a ps3 so i can get MGS4

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Re: Bill Gates *IS* Human!
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2008, 11:24:55 PM »
on wiki i mostly search up video games. i want a ps3 so i can get MGS4

Stop by my home next time you're in the States...

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Re: Bill Gates *IS* Human!
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2008, 05:06:10 PM »
nah my friend has it. im just facing laughing octopus