In the manual for setting up a cable/dsl server it says keep it at 8 people, I should know 20 ppl on a cable server will lag like hell, I had a cable server for a while, i even ran a server off a P3 450mhz 128mb of sdr ram, with a CL of 4... and it lagged with 3 ppl in it, I think if a server lags for you, you should jus go play on another server and as Bug explained about the argueing with the server owner is not right, XSV and I were both banned from GT servers and AB servers, i had my pbcup account locked and everything, 5 months later.. Derrek being as nice as he is let the ban off which was really nice of him.. I think this thread should be locked.. seems like more than half of it is jus constant flame