1) Nobody finds anything in the maps they create to be "random" - cause they have a purpose for it. This doesn't mean it's not random. But once it's released and people can run around in it, you'll get real feedback to it. But from the screenshots, it does look random.
Again, I said 'although it may seem random'...'put a lot of thought and time into it'. My point is, you should't be giving feedback on what you think that terrain will do to gameplay, you should do that later. You have contradicted yourself here, 'real feedback' is all I want.
2) I think if you're doing anything to change gameplay, then you should do more than visuals/terrain. There's certainly other things in Wobluda (path wise) that can be improved. There's a reason this map is loved or hated. If you truly want to make an impact - make it so everyone will love it. The people who "hate" the map isn't a cause of the visuals - it's the mid. Find a way to fix that, rather than just trying to make it look better. If you're going to spend the time do work on this, go all out and actually improve everything about the map.
Again, totally not understanding my point. I am not the best in explaining things, but you clearly LOVE to state the obvious to make it out as if you are actually contributing to that 'real feedback'
If you talk to clipz, he'll tell you himself that I have been disguising mid with him and asking him why he doesn't like it. I will try to improve gameplay, but keep the idea of wobluda the same... Why do I have to repeat myself? Have I explained it badly? If I have, then how is it others can understand? meh, nevertheless, it's annoying having to repeat myself to someone so 'legendary'.
3) I know of some people who got told not to remake maps without permission before, that being said I think it's stupid. Let's be real, most maps are inspired from something without permission. Remaking maps should be allowed as frequently as you want, and if the maps better it'll get played. But it's a waste of time to do if it's not a real remake.
Some maps are there to be left with, for example, pforest. It looks fine, great gameplay, a remake would be worthless. What I think you fail to understand, or fail to explain correctly, is what a 'real remake' is. You've said a lot of things. But ultimately are just echoing what I say in a different way. Please stop this, it's non-predictive. I am here to re-build the map from scratch, to improve the map, take gameplay requests(if everyone agrees with them) but mainly improve the visuals.
4) I'm aware of what you're doing, and I think it's a waste unless you seek to fix the problems for those who hate the map (which I do). Terrain/Visuals helps new players, cause it looks nicer. Sure. But, the mid of that map could use some serious reworking. As I said before, people love or hate it.
You can't please everyone on this game. There are even those who dislike DT's maps, they prefer plain, simple, "straight-wall" maps. I try to please the majority. As I have said already, I am already disgussing changing certain, small elements of gameplay. But remember, there are people who really like mid as well, adjusting mid may make them not want to play the remade version. For example, matzemr, I told him mid may be almost exactly the same gameplay and he said that was good. So, you know, can't please everyone, therefore, your point is worthless, not adding anything. In a sense, you are once again, echoing what I am doing, in a twisted manor.
5) You refused to accurately respond to my posts till now, you brought it as off topic as myself. I have an ego, you're ignorant. Get over it. My criticism is still more helpful than 90% of what people in this community give. None of my posts about maps have anything ego-related, my posts in other sections do. I'm not a good mapper, I've made a few average/below average maps, so I have no reason to be arrogant about it.
You claim I am ignorant, you are correct in that claim, however, only partially correct. I am ignorant towards you, with certain variables. When I feel that your feedback will not improve my map. Ask omni, I am always looking to improve. I've told him about my countless testing maps I have made and don't publish. I wouldn't say I am arrogant, I'd say I'm cautious of not letting people bring me down as they have in the past. Like when luckie said "Don't make maps, you just can't do it", for example. He called me arrogant for ignoring him, does that make him right? Nope
As for Omni/Skyro - I said they aren't great mappers, and they aren't experienced to "know" gameplay. But, you've considered yourself a good mapper when you released your first map(s), saying they were great. Look at them now, compare them to your current maps. You've improved. But compare your current ones to DT, and there's still a lot of room for improvement. Same with many mappers. Stay humble, and you get humble feedback.
Again, the obvious. There's always room to improve. I find it funny how you are the only one here that I haven't had much humble feedback from. I am sorry if I have made you have the perception that I am arrogant, think I am a good mapper etc. I can be a little "defensive" at times, but that's just because of people like you who just try to bring people down. Based off reading threads you've made in the past to people, you are one of those typical haters, that unless you gain something out of what someone else is doing, [e.g ego boost], you will just hate and post flame. I accept that you may have changed from this, but from what I have seen, by my own opinion, you've got a lot of room to improve too
(Again, the obvious.)
I feel like I've wasted a lot of time typing this up, considering that you'll probably reply again and expect me to make another reply like this one, only to find we're going round in circles, not making this project any better. I kindly ask that you withdraw posting in my thread, until I have a bsp file published. Then, if you decide that you have some good, real feedback on gameplay, you can post. But I have had enough of wasting my time with these type of replies, when I have better things to do.
(heavily thinking about it, you won't even gain anything from this map, being as you are now inactive in the game because "LoL > DP", so go play LoL and leave us people alone who will actually see the benefits)
With regards, I state, goodbye myers
