Well i'm not surprised that DT now thinks aB shouldn't have been forfeited. Like I have said ad-nauseum, that was the only incident we had had where we had to issue a forfeit for someone breaking the rules. Now I was apart of that match and we were just getting smoked each round, going into the last round it was 3-0 aB and that’s where the pandemonium ensued. They were spamming much more than bob, as everyone who watched the demo will see it wasn't the quantity of mm1 speak that brought about this ruling. The similarities in what was being said is what made me think this situation should receive a similar ruling. Uni insulted DT. Bob insulted Tom. Both were asked to stop talking repeatedly and both resisted. aB was issued a forfeit by one of our admins, aB accepted the forfeit (obviously they were displeased, but more so because it was being issued by someone who openly hated their clan). eR33t was issued a forfeit because they broke rules about using the mm1 login, insulting PBCup Refs (who volunteer their time to watch games, set up servers, and make sure everything runs smoothly.), using names that aren't registered on the page, etc.
Now your big question is did all of this childish behavior effect the outcome of the game. Other than seeing some ch1ll members talk in mm2 saying "I wish they would shut him up." and things like that, no I don’t think it did. I know members of ch1ll have even said after all of this has gone down that they didn't think bob's actions affected the outcome. However, our current rules were broken and one of our refs was insulted. I understand one individual did 90% of the talking in that server. But it took another member of your team to give out the mm1 login. This was not just a sole person responsible for this outcome. I know you have used sports as a way to create analogies for this whole ordeal, so I will leave you with one.
In football, if any offensive player is flagged for holding during a play, they lose the down, they back up in yardage, and whatever resulted from that play doesn't count. Now say you're looking down on a field from a birds eye view. The offense runs a play action run play to the left. The left receiver acts as a blocker to try and keep the DB that was lined up on him from moving towards the RB. Now if that receiver is holding the DB he is going to get flagged for it. Even if the ball never even moves to that DB’s side of the field and the QB throws it deep to the right side for a touch down. That DB that was being held would have had no effect on the play since the ball was thrown to a different side of the field that he was on. But, the WR broke the rules and held him and they get punished for it. Not ALL rules in games, sports, etc. look at whether or not the actions effect the outcome of a game in EVERY situation. They are there to keep things fair and equal.
Another football example can be used during kick and punt returns. On big plays where the kick returner advances the ball 50, 60, 70 yards or farther for a touchdown, even if that man ran the ball all the way up the right side of the field, if one of his teammates blocked an opponent in the back 30 yards away on the opposite side of the kick returner, you know that ball is coming back. Did that illegal block have any effect on that players kick return? Throughout this upcoming NFL season you will see a few situations where a block in the back 30-40 yards away from the ball will result in that penalty. But once again, a player broke the rules and his team was punished for it.
I assure you the rules will be looked at this off-season, but I ask you to not think of me as a biased admin. I've been around in this community for a very long time, I think most people will say that I am not a person who would sabotage a league and remove a top clan so all other teams can breeze through the playoffs. Remember that our ruling was extremely lenient; we knew all of the standings and schedules before we made it. I knew that issuing a forfeit and these suspensions would not negatively affect eR33t in getting to the playoffs. I did not remove your team from the league, I did not ban you from playing out the rest of the season. I hope everyone realizes that, our ruling was made in a way that we could both: a.) get across a message to all clans that if you break the rules, you will be forfeited, and , b.) so that you (eR33t) would have an equal shot like everyone else to make the playoffs.
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