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Shoud weed be legal

yes
21 (55.3%)
no
17 (44.7%)

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Voting closed: May 11, 2007, 04:07:19 PM

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Eiii

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #40 on: May 06, 2007, 09:19:04 PM »
...it is less harmful that cigarettes. 
Err, no.

I consider the psychological (immediate and lasting) effects to be potentially much MUCH more dangerous than the addictiveness of tobacco. Joints have just as many, if not more, carcinogens/poisonous substances in them.

TinMan

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #41 on: May 06, 2007, 09:21:02 PM »
Not if it's pure.

Eiii

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #42 on: May 06, 2007, 10:51:15 PM »
And the only way you can guarantee that is if you grow it yourself. Even then, smoke is bad for your lungs in general.

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #43 on: May 07, 2007, 12:06:18 AM »
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smoke is bad for your lungs in general
So does aging.


FYI Real tabacc is whaaaack. Try smoking or the same amount of mary jane. Tell me then which one is crazzzzyish to smoke. Psst watch that tabbacc you will be so f-ed up you will vomit the first couple of times. Kind of like a narcotic. Hmm. To bad mary has to be on that class one listing. Never seen the cronic cause so one to vomit. Well they did if the took too big a hit.

Lifestyle dictating age. Hmmm what a bummer. Sometime other peoples lifestyle dictate your age. That sucks even worse?

Get it? Got it? Good.

Oh and growing it your self is what the government fears worse than in moral isssue. They want to tax it! :(

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #44 on: May 07, 2007, 12:18:25 AM »
loial i read your post and what the intercourse are you saying? its like a retard got ahold of your keyboard.

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #45 on: May 07, 2007, 12:35:58 AM »
loial i read your post and what the intercourse are you saying? its like a retard got ahold of your keyboard.

Agreed, but to a lesser extent.

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« Reply #46 on: May 07, 2007, 04:26:30 AM »
My friend used to smoke it every day, he was anxious and unsociable, his uni grades were low due to the fact he barely went to classes.

He then realised the weed was making him this way so stopped, hes a totallt different guy now (plus he has alot more spare cash).

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #47 on: May 07, 2007, 07:14:39 AM »
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Quote from: JOE on Yesterday at 10:10:28 PM
...it is less harmful that cigarettes.
Err, no.

I consider the psychological (immediate and lasting) effects to be potentially much MUCH more dangerous than the addictiveness of tobacco. Joints have just as many, if not more, carcinogens/poisonous substances in them.

Pot is not considered a carcinogen. This has not been proven, and further more, it has been proven that pot is actually helpful in some ways.
Another product of governmental disinformation.

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My friend used to smoke it every day, he was anxious and unsociable, his uni grades were low due to the fact he barely went to classes.

He then realised the weed was making him this way so stopped, hes a totallt different guy now (plus he has alot more spare cash).

You are, like many others, associating pot use with other issues. I feel the initial smoking of pot, in a lot of cases, comes from children reaching outside their protective circle of family due to some other issues. Bad family, turn to friends, friends smoke weed, you decide to give it a try. Because of this you tend to get a lot of pot smoker that have deeper issues than anything to do with pot. Everything above can be said about alcohol also.

With anything, and I mean absolutely anything, you will have people that abuse it.
For me personally, I can function just fine after smoking pot. In fact none of you would ever know the difference. Of course I don't smoke 10 joints and get blasted either.

If you are going to talk about weed, talk about weed. Don't use your library of disinformation to include weed in excess, or deeper lying issues in a person's life.

Can't remember the last ranging potoholic that came home wasted from a bar, beat his wife and kids, and then passed out on the floor.

Weed is less harmful than alcohol. That is an absolute proven scientific fact.

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #48 on: May 07, 2007, 07:28:08 AM »
Legalized in USA, UK, UAE, etc. and other countries with initials instead of letters, and one with letters instead initials? Where? World, Universe, gramma´s backyard, balcons? Where, is the question?

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« Reply #49 on: May 07, 2007, 08:37:19 AM »
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Quote from: JOE on Yesterday at 10:10:28 PM
...it is less harmful that cigarettes.
Err, no.

I consider the psychological (immediate and lasting) effects to be potentially much MUCH more dangerous than the addictiveness of tobacco. Joints have just as many, if not more, carcinogens/poisonous substances in them.

Pot is not considered a carcinogen. This has not been proven, and further more, it has been proven that pot is actually helpful in some ways.
Another product of governmental disinformation.

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My friend used to smoke it every day, he was anxious and unsociable, his uni grades were low due to the fact he barely went to classes.

He then realised the weed was making him this way so stopped, hes a totallt different guy now (plus he has alot more spare cash).

You are, like many others, associating pot use with other issues. I feel the initial smoking of pot, in a lot of cases, comes from children reaching outside their protective circle of family due to some other issues. Bad family, turn to friends, friends smoke weed, you decide to give it a try. Because of this you tend to get a lot of pot smoker that have deeper issues than anything to do with pot. Everything above can be said about alcohol also.

With anything, and I mean absolutely anything, you will have people that abuse it.
For me personally, I can function just fine after smoking pot. In fact none of you would ever know the difference. Of course I don't smoke 10 joints and get blasted either.

If you are going to talk about weed, talk about weed. Don't use your library of disinformation to include weed in excess, or deeper lying issues in a person's life.

Can't remember the last ranging potoholic that came home wasted from a bar, beat his wife and kids, and then passed out on the floor.

Weed is less harmful than alcohol. That is an absolute proven scientific fact.

S8NSSON im know what i am talking about. you feel strongly about this issue and thats good. im not for or against weed being legalised. I don't give an argument, just a view.

You have to look at the other side of your argument to be taken seriously by me. All im seeing from you is "benefits", sure weed isn't all bad, but either directly or indirectly it has alot of negative impacts.

My friend changed one thing in his life, he stopped smoking weed and his life became better. Upon that basis i am associating weed with a lower standard of living for him.

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #50 on: May 07, 2007, 08:43:55 AM »
1 friend of mine smokes A LOT of weed and he has been smoking for almost 7 years...
result: he takes like 10 seconds to understand what we tell him...sad...he just cant think nomore...

though i think that if you dont smoke a to much theres no harm...

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #51 on: May 07, 2007, 08:51:01 AM »
I understand lekky, but I also understand that his change may not be based on just one factor. There may be more psychological factors involved in his cause and effect decision to quit pot and better his life. The "pot" may have been his crutch, but not necessarily the problem.

Like I said, as with anything, even a hobby as seemingly harmless as butterfly collecting, if not done in moderation it can be harmful to you in many ways.

It's not the weed that is harming (short of medical proof of such), it is the person that abuses the weed. Same goes with alcohol. Same goes with GREEN TEA (just read this today WOW) http://www.pheedo.com/click.phdo?i=10a34b2aaea416653a885c4a4fc45712.

It's really just a question of choice. I should be able to choose to smoke or not smoke weed as long as I am responsible and not endangering others. No government should make my choice on how I abuse my body.

EDIT:
This game, and most FPS games, are based on reaction. Twitch games, if you will. I may not be the best at this game, but I am at least average. This is a 43 year old person that has smoked pot since the age of 13. That's 30 years of pot smoking. So I'm past my prime "reactionary" years and yet I am still at least as good as half the players in the game, most of which probably never smoked a joint in their lives. It's not the weed, it's the person. Some people just shouldn't smoke weed genetically. Same with lots of other things.

lekky

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #52 on: May 07, 2007, 08:54:14 AM »
See this is why its such a hard one to come to a good conclusion. I understand that you and alot of people have no problem with weed, it has no negative effect on you or your lifestyle, even the opposite!

But neither you nor me are certain that everyone can be the same as you. And yeah alcohol is the cause of alot more problems that people realise, but this is a weed thread.

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #53 on: May 07, 2007, 04:05:56 PM »
The problem will any drug questions is that the default argument is "Yeah it's bad, but not as bad as..."

For example: "Sure, LSD is bad, but it hasn't killed as many people as the Holocaust; and we didn't outlaw Germans!"

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #54 on: May 07, 2007, 04:12:35 PM »
We did outlaw National Socialism activities though.

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #55 on: May 07, 2007, 07:16:21 PM »
The problem will any drug questions is that the default argument is "Yeah it's bad, but not as bad as..."

For example: "Sure, LSD is bad, but it hasn't killed as many people as the Holocaust; and we didn't outlaw Germans!"
Heh, I was thinking the same thing.  The argument so frequently goes along the lines of, "X may be harmful, but it's not as harmful as Y.  Y is legal, therefore X should be, too."

So it may not be as harmful as tobacco.  So what?  Quite frankly, tobacco should be illegal, too.  It really doesn't have any redeeming qualities.  Fortunately people are becoming smarter and moving away from that habit.  Disney, for example, is removing all of its smoking rooms in the resort hotels.

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #56 on: May 07, 2007, 07:52:59 PM »
The problem will any drug questions is that the default argument is "Yeah it's bad, but not as bad as..."

For example: "Sure, LSD is bad, but it hasn't killed as many people as the Holocaust; and we didn't outlaw Germans!"
Heh, I was thinking the same thing.  The argument so frequently goes along the lines of, "X may be harmful, but it's not as harmful as Y.  Y is legal, therefore X should be, too."

So it may not be as harmful as tobacco.  So what?  Quite frankly, tobacco should be illegal, too.  It really doesn't have any redeeming qualities.  Fortunately people are becoming smarter and moving away from that habit.  Disney, for example, is removing all of its smoking rooms in the resort hotels.
LSD has never killed anyone. And for pot to kill you (from OD), you need to smoke about your body weight in marijuana.

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #57 on: May 07, 2007, 08:25:15 PM »
It's pretty easy to go out and do something stupid from the effects of pot/LSD/whatever, though.

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #58 on: May 08, 2007, 02:17:14 AM »
Weed, if smoked in leaf form, contains 3x more tar than tobacco, and it settles in the lower throat where it cools, as opposed to the lungs.

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #59 on: May 10, 2007, 04:35:54 PM »
you know this is a subject that cant ever be won. because of opposing thoughts..

obviously theres problems with drugs\alcahol\tabacoo

and i have to agree with jitspoe on how drugs make most people unproductive and unmotivated to do stuff. but theres also a group of people out there that can do it without any problems. no mater what race\religion\belifs you have.. theres some idiot out there that has the same race\religion\belifs that gives someone an advantage to attack the type of group your apart of ;)

i dont know too many stoners who would "CAUSE" a car crashes.. and if so.. i bet theres way more sober people crashing then stoners.. and more drunks crashing then stoners as well, this could also be because most stoners are sitting on there couch watching tv. and have allready bought snacks on the way home from work :).

a war on drugs = stupid
a war on poverty = smart

if you want to end poverty in 3rd world countrys... dont send money send them condoms.. soo they dont have any kidds that they cant afford to feed! (harsh reality)
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