Author Topic: My thoughts on Karma.  (Read 1540 times)

y00tz

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My thoughts on Karma.
« on: July 13, 2007, 12:13:07 AM »
It's been a few months since the forum karma system has been removed.  This isn't a petition to restore karma, although I'd like to see it.   This is just a small analysis of the benefits that system had.

A lot of the complaints against karma were that a new user could join the forum, make 2 worthless posts, and within 20 minutes have a +0/-12 rating.

Plain and simple, that means the system works.

A user who has contributed nothing should have a negative rating, the lowest of ratings.  Once this newbie user starts posting legitimate content, people will change their ratings toward them.

Karma:  What goes around, comes around.

The more forum newbies go around posting junk, the more junk gets pushed into their karma.

I believe the rating system promotes good posts.
When newbies strive to attain a high karma, they'll work harder on their posts.  I know Soldier once had a +0/-10, then he began asking how to raise it, so we gave him pointers.  When he started following it our suggestions got a few pluses.  Because of karma we turned Soldier into a useful forum member, who doesn't post random stuff every 15 seconds.

There were some who claimed they didn't care about their karma, and it was reflected.  People with very few +'s and a lot of -'s, clearly post worthless criticism or unnecessary personal flames.  Can you think of anyone recently banned with a 'good' karma?  I can think of a few banned recently with notably bad karma.

Too much on forums do people think, 'hey, they have a high post count, they must be someone too listen too'  This is not always the case, more so on this forum then others I belong to.  A karma rating adds validity to posts made by posters.

What if you posted an idea in the feature request forum, and a person with a bad karma said it was bad, what would you think?  It's obvious they criticize a lot, and therefore you shouldn't be discouraged by their post.  And on the flipside, someone with a +0/-50 rating who tells you they like their idea means more probably, than someone with a +5/-5 who probably gives a superfluous amount of compliments .

I don't know why I posted this, other than to note that the karma system was something that I thoroughly enjoyed using as a reference when I was newer, and I'm sorry to have seen it go.

Cheers,
y00tz.


*will edit for grammar, content, and y00tzisms later.

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Re: My thoughts on Karma.
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2007, 12:37:00 AM »
+

Oh, wait. That's gone. Yeah, I agree, for the most part. The one downside is something like Skater's case, where he tries to get a negative karma. Personally, I think at that point, banning is a pretty good action.
I don't think that someones opinion should be entirely regarded or disregarded based on their karma, but that is something that'll come into play.

I think that maybe, if karma were to come back, people should be able to vote for a week or two without the actual karma values being displayed, just to get a baseline for each user before the karma is pushed in.

Cobo

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Re: My thoughts on Karma.
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2007, 08:42:02 AM »
I agree, altough I always had the same amount of positive, than negative :(

play3r1

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Re: My thoughts on Karma.
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2007, 06:45:37 PM »
I liked your 4th of July map, could you do one for my birthday?

Cobo

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Re: My thoughts on Karma.
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2007, 06:51:43 PM »
Wow, way to keep the conversation on topic.

PS: And dont give me the 'ITS OTHER STUFF' speech.

play3r1

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Re: My thoughts on Karma.
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2007, 08:08:40 AM »
Wow, way to keep the conversation on topic.

PS: And dont give me the 'ITS OTHER STUFF' speech.

Ok, sorry about that. But how can I keep anything on-topic when I haven't even read anything on this topic?

S8NSSON

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Re: My thoughts on Karma.
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2007, 08:16:05 AM »
The karma system doesn't work.
It would work if everyone was honest about their ratings (an older, more mature, community), but that's not the case.
It becomes a popularity contest at best.
People will + anyone they like regardless of post content, and minus those they don't like otherwise.
In confession, I gave a minus to everyone, almost all the time, regardless of anything to do with anything.
Was I wrong, sure, but the system doesn't work, proof.

Cobo

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Re: My thoughts on Karma.
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2007, 10:19:13 AM »
Ok, sorry about that. But how can I keep anything on-topic when I haven't even read anything on this topic?
Read the thread before posting?
The smart thing would have been searching his flag thread, and posting it there.

y00tz

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Re: My thoughts on Karma.
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2007, 10:28:45 AM »
Ok, sorry about that. But how can I keep anything on-topic when I haven't even read anything on this topic?

Send me a private message (PM) next time.
Up at the top where it says something like:
Hey, playe3r1, you have 922 messages, 0 are new.
Click that and address the message to me then type and send.

Cheers,
y00tz

Cobo

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Re: My thoughts on Karma.
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2007, 10:50:08 AM »
Or click his name to view his profile, and click on "Send a Personal Message".

bitmate

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Re: My thoughts on Karma.
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2007, 02:23:20 PM »