Poll

Select up to 10 people you would like to see on the committee.

b00nlander (Pureblood)
47 (4.3%)
bitmate
55 (5.1%)
blaa
22 (2%)
Calrathan
33 (3%)
ch40s
22 (2%)
cusoman
11 (1%)
DaRkNeSS
20 (1.8%)
DirtyTaco
49 (4.5%)
eagle
12 (1.1%)
Eiii
29 (2.7%)
flip
11 (1%)
Herron
34 (3.1%)
J0E
19 (1.8%)
KiLo
25 (2.3%)
KnacK
69 (6.4%)
lekky
52 (4.8%)
loial21
30 (2.8%)
lords8n (S8NSSON)
52 (4.8%)
Mayhem
11 (1%)
Olbaid
51 (4.7%)
P!nk
17 (1.6%)
PainKe
11 (1%)
QueeNiE
31 (2.9%)
sk89q
23 (2.1%)
SmackWaters
13 (1.2%)
Sonny
14 (1.3%)
Spook
54 (5%)
T3RR0R15T
54 (5%)
TheRealSoldier
11 (1%)
ViciouZ
61 (5.6%)
WarWulf
55 (5.1%)
Y2J
33 (3%)
Zorchenhimer
51 (4.7%)

Total Members Voted: 180

Voting closed: October 02, 2007, 12:35:22 AM

Author Topic: Committee Elections  (Read 50607 times)

lekky

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #80 on: September 23, 2007, 01:55:06 PM »
Multiple accounts................

Jitspoe has that covered.

MiZ

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #81 on: September 23, 2007, 02:31:47 PM »
I think knack,lekky,and viciouz should definatly be voted for.

Olbaid

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #82 on: September 23, 2007, 02:56:47 PM »
Jitspoe has that covered.

I don't believe it

Fullmetal_Steeb

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #83 on: September 24, 2007, 05:38:32 PM »
KnacK is pulling away. =\
My theory is that people are voting for him! Who would have guessed that to be the reason?! And that, my friends, is why I will never be a great scientist. Or political thing. Or anything else that has to do with theories or voting.

Reed

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #84 on: September 24, 2007, 09:07:28 PM »
There seems to be some debate about the legitimacy of this committee election.

Usually, in most forms of election, the voters have a vast amount of knowledge to base their decisions on, whether it be policies, personalities, or previous performance.

However, with no previous committee in place it becomes difficult to judge how any particular candidate would perform; the majority of players do not know each other beyond the realms of DP; and it would be unrealistic to expect each candidate to have a manifesto (no matter how hilarious they would be).

The electorate then, has only a limited amount of information to base their decisions on – the behaviour of the candidate within the community, which is directly correlated with the candidates’ popularity, and the personal relationships (clan ties and outside the game) which the candidate has with certain voters, which can help to explain anomalies in this correlation (i.e. unpopular players who have a large percentage of votes). The other major factor which can affect a candidates popularity is their power within the game, for example Jitspoe (who, of course, has most of his admirers because of his good looks, and helpful attitude – most of the time :D) gains some popularity because he has the power to make changes within the game and the community. The same can be said for ‘veteran’ players, who are perceived to have more power, knowledge, and influence within the community.

So, it can be reasonably said that to expect anything more than a vote predominantly decided by popularity would be somewhat naïve. Therefore, if candidates cannot accept their standings in this so-called popularity contest, then they should have graciously declined their prior nominations.

Finally, I think it’s important for candidates to understand that they will be judged not on their positive actions, but on the negative.

Dr Reed.

webhead

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #85 on: September 24, 2007, 11:36:24 PM »
and why are YOU not on the list??? i was sure you'd be nominated, at least..

bananabrain

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #86 on: September 26, 2007, 11:53:51 AM »
Thanks Dirty Taco.I honestly just couldnt do all of that stuff.Maybe next year ill be on the list.LOL no  one is gonna vote for me any ways if I would have been on the list so there was no point of me putting my name up there.Thanks by.

blaa

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #87 on: September 26, 2007, 12:03:11 PM »
 Im pretty sure I had 22 votes at some time, then I had 21 for a long time and now only 20 :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

bananabrain

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #88 on: September 26, 2007, 12:03:55 PM »
How could you have gone down 1 vote?

Henkka

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #89 on: September 26, 2007, 12:22:44 PM »
How could you have gone down 1 vote?
You can change your votes by clicking "Remove vote". Someone has obviously done it and replaced blaa with someone else.

jitspoe

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #90 on: September 26, 2007, 01:34:05 PM »
Sorted:

KnacK|61 (6.1%)
ViciouZ|57 (5.7%)
Spook|53 (5.3%)
bitmate|52 (5.2%)
lords8n (S8NSSON)|50 (5%)
Olbaid|50 (5%)
WarWulf|49 (4.9%)
lekky|48 (4.8%)
T3RR0R15T|48 (4.8%)
Zorchenhimer|48 (4.8%)
DirtyTaco|47 (4.7%)
b00nlander (Pureblood)|44 (4.4%)
Y2J|32 (3.2%)
Herron|31 (3.1%)
Calrathan|29 (2.9%)
loial21|29 (2.9%)
Eiii|28 (2.8%)
QueeNiE|28 (2.8%)
KiLo|26 (2.6%)
sk89q|22 (2.2%)
ch40s|21 (2.1%)
blaa|20 (2%)
J0E|18 (1.8%)
P!nk|17 (1.7%)
DaRkNeSS|15 (1.5%)
SmackWaters|13 (1.3%)
Sonny|12 (1.2%)
flip|10 (1%)
PainKe|10 (1%)
cusoman|9 (0.9%)
eagle|8 (0.8%)
TheRealSoldier|8 (0.8%)
Mayhem|7 (0.7%)

Looks like we have an interesting group with the top 10.

ViciouZ

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #91 on: September 26, 2007, 01:46:26 PM »
*Q3 announcer voice*
7 Days Remain.

QueeNiE

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #92 on: September 26, 2007, 03:48:54 PM »
I find it funny how Darkness currently has 15 votes when he has helped with, and still is, creating hacks for this game.


I remember when he PMed me and asked if I wanted to use a ratbot he was making and what features I wanted to see.

Guess he's lucky I don't keep logs.




Oh and, remember that speculation that went around that he was producing hacks with Zaltekk? 

100% true.


He now currently has the ratbot source.

webhead

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #93 on: September 26, 2007, 04:32:30 PM »
umm ... your sig??  :o haha

FlaMe

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #94 on: September 26, 2007, 05:30:07 PM »
its referring to his IRC bot script. I have it actually. lol nice try though

Dirty_Taco

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #95 on: September 26, 2007, 06:10:31 PM »
Quote
Usually, in most forms of election, the voters have a vast amount of knowledge to base their decisions on, whether it be policies, personalities, or previous performance.

In a perfect world, yes. I think the analysis of this vote as a popularity contest can be likened to a presidential vote, which we would hope voters have this vast amount of knowledge you speak of. However, the overwhelming majority of 'voters' have very little knowledge at all about candidates in a presidential election. Most simply identify themselves with a certain political party because their friends do or because they think it makes them unique and pseudo-intellectual in some way and vote accordingly. This, in a sense, makes the vote as illegitimate as a popularity vote is. In this vote I'm sure voters identify themselves with particular candidates based on their interactions with them and the groups that the candidate hangs out in. In fact I'm very sure a lot of the voters have a lot more knowledge of particular candidates than voters do in a presidential election (direct interaction for example). However, there are no age restrictions, no restrictions at all really so people without the appropriate abilities to critically think about 'who will make the right decisions given certain bodies of evidence' can vote simply by recognizing names they see in public servers or in map titles (the candidate election thread is a great example). And as we all know from playing in over populated public servers, this sect of people I'm speaking of often outweigh map votes just in the same way they could be outweighing this vote. So ultimately, while there is a small section of voters in this vote that actually do think about the candidates and the issues the majority either don't care or simply don't have the cognitive resources to do so. This maps seamlessly to the presidential election and hence demonstrates where the one is illegitimate, so is the other.

Fullmetal_Steeb

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #96 on: September 26, 2007, 06:13:03 PM »
*Q3 announcer voice*
7 Days Remain.
*Q3 Announcer Voice*
Quad Vote-age (you get four votes for every one vote you recieve).

jitspoe

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #97 on: September 26, 2007, 06:22:12 PM »
Forgot to address this earlier:

umm f theres voting within the committee and thers 10 people that wont really work that well?(for retards that 5 and 5 for each side in certain cases) or will jits be the eleventh member?
If the voting is close enough that one person makes or breaks it, the issue probably needs more review.  Ideally I'd like to get closer to a 2/3 majority vote or even a unanimous decision.

Fullmetal_Steeb

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #98 on: September 27, 2007, 06:14:31 PM »
I thought maybe the 10-member setup was going to be like 10 members with 9 voters and they rotate so one person is the moderator of the discussion... That's how it is in the NPPL Rules Commitee (of real paintball, not that knock-off NPPL clan...).

Mastar

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Re: Committee Elections
« Reply #99 on: September 28, 2007, 06:14:12 PM »
I would have voted for WvSoulja... but he wasn't an option!

/cry