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Paintball 2: The Game => Paintball 2 Discussion => Topic started by: coLa on February 11, 2008, 11:51:35 PM
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[22:46] <D|2> heres the file he sent
[22:47] <D|2> [23:05] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> bah
[22:47] <D|2> [23:05] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> its jitspoe changed the format of the pcx files
[22:47] <D|2> [23:06] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> lol
[22:47] <D|2> [23:09] <DaRkNeSS|> weird
[22:47] <D|2> [23:09] <DaRkNeSS|> i looked at grensmoke
[22:47] <D|2> [23:09] <DaRkNeSS|> thats theh hud file
[22:47] <D|2> [23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> yeah
[22:47] <D|2> [23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> i found the other one
[22:47] <D|2> [23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> its in the model files
[22:47] <D|2> [23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> the one you said
[22:47] <D|2> [23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> skin
[22:47] <D|2> [23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> air
[22:47] <D|2> [23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> and pcx is a photoshop file
[22:47] <D|2> [23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> or land
[22:47] <D|2> [23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> i looked at all 3
[22:47] <D|2> [23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> in the gren folder
[22:47] <D|2> [23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> didnt think any would be the smoke while it is in the air
[22:47] <D|2> [23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> i also looked
[22:47] <D|2> [23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> could it be a texture
[22:47] <D|2> [23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> paintball2\pball\models\items\grenades\smoke
[22:47] <D|2> [23:11] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> omg
[22:47] <D|2> [23:11] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> im a fukin idiot lmao
[22:47] <D|2> [23:11] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> its pball\sprites
[22:47] <D|2> [23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> lol
[22:47] <D|2> [23:11] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> lmao
[22:47] <D|2> [23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> smoke.sp2
[22:47] <D|2> [23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> lol
[22:47] <D|2> [23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> what progs can edit that
[22:47] <D|2> [23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> dont know what smoke.sp2 is
[22:47] <D|2> [23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> but smoke1_0 or what ever is the texture
[22:47] <D|2> [23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> smoke1_0.tga
[22:47] <D|2> [23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> that file is positivly the texture
[22:47] <D|2> [23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> i just opend it in photoshop
[22:47] <D|2> [23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> lol
[22:47] <D|2> [23:13] <DaRkNeSS|> well
[22:47] <D|2> [23:13] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> their i fixed it ;P
[22:48] <D|2> [23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> lol
[22:48] <D|2> [23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> just to let you know
[22:48] <D|2> [23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> .tga file format
[22:48] <D|2> [23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> has the highest priority
[22:48] <D|2> [23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> :P
[22:48] <D|2> [23:14] <DaRkNeSS|> so can i delete the tga?
[22:48] <D|2> [23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> try renaming the file
[22:48] <D|2> [23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> dont delete
[22:48] <D|2> [23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> you always want a backup
[22:48] <D|2> [23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> =]
[22:50] <D|2> heres another time
[22:50] <D|2> [12:21] <[Fang]WrWf\store> just penix
[22:50] <D|2> [12:21] <[Fang]WrWf\store> lol
[22:50] <D|2> [12:21] <[Fang]WrWf\store> want it/
[22:50] <D|2> [12:22] <DaRkNeSS|> Which one is it?
[22:50] <D|2> [12:22] <[Fang]WrWf\store> its just a wall hax
[22:50] <D|2> [12:22] <[Fang]WrWf\store> make the whole map and every person transparent
[22:50] <D|2> [12:22] <[Fang]WrWf\store> lol
[22:50] <D|2> [12:23] <[Fang]WrWf\store> i dont like wall hax to much
[22:50] <D|2> [12:23] <[Fang]WrWf\store> they lag way to much
[22:50] <D|2> [12:25] <DaRkNeSS|> I mean when it opens and you join a server what version does it say joined
[22:50] <D|2> [12:25] <[Fang]WrWf\store> ohh
[22:50] <D|2> [12:25] <[Fang]WrWf\store> penix is a seperate file
[22:50] <D|2> [12:25] <[Fang]WrWf\store> what ever version of dp ur using
[22:50] <D|2> [12:25] <[Fang]WrWf\store> it will return
[22:50] <D|2> [12:25] <[Fang]WrWf\store> lol
[22:50] <D|2> [12:26] <DaRkNeSS|> hmm
[22:50] <D|2> [12:26] <[Fang]WrWf\store> like u have a my quake2.exe
[22:50] <D|2> [12:26] <[Fang]WrWf\store> and openhell.dll
[22:50] <D|2> [12:26] <[Fang]WrWf\store> u rename paintball2.exe
[22:50] <D|2> [12:26] <[Fang]WrWf\store> to
[22:51] <D|2> [12:26] <[Fang]WrWf\store> penix.exe
[22:51] <D|2> [12:26] <[Fang]WrWf\store> thene u double click the My quake2.exe
[22:51] <D|2> [12:26] <[Fang]WrWf\store> and it opens the openhell.dll
[22:51] <D|2> [12:26] <[Fang]WrWf\store> that runs dp
[22:51] <D|2> [12:26] <DaRkNeSS|> and I type gl_clear 1
[22:51] <D|2> [12:26] <DaRkNeSS|> vid_restart
[22:51] <D|2> [12:26] <[Fang]WrWf\store> its just a memory hack
[22:51] <D|2> [12:26] <[Fang]WrWf\store> yeah
[22:51] <D|2> [12:27] <DaRkNeSS|> whatever send me what you got
[22:51] <D|2> [12:27] <[Fang]WrWf\store> lol
[22:51] <D|2> [12:28] <[Fang]WrWf\store> oops
[22:51] <D|2> [12:28] <[Fang]WrWf\store> wrong button
[22:51] <D|2> [12:28] <[Fang]WrWf\store> lol
[22:51] <D|2> [12:28] <DaRkNeSS|> k send it
[22:51] <D|2> want the file he sent?
[22:51] <D|2> its just a zip with penix and a readme but im sure you have it
[22:52] <jitspoe> I already have a copy.
[22:52] <D|2> [12:36] <DaRkNeSS|> dude I put the penix in my paintball folder
[22:52] <D|2> [12:36] <DaRkNeSS|> said unable to load the quake2.ex
[22:52] <D|2> [12:36] <DaRkNeSS|> does this one work on alpha?
[22:52] <D|2> [12:37] <[Fang]WrWf\store> lol
[22:52] <D|2> [12:37] <[Fang]WrWf\store> dood
[22:52] <D|2> [12:37] <[Fang]WrWf\store> do this
[22:52] <D|2> [12:37] <DaRkNeSS|> alt f4?
[22:52] <D|2> [12:37] <[Fang]WrWf\store> put My Quake2.exe and OpenHell.dll
[22:52] <D|2> [12:38] <[Fang]WrWf\store> in c:\paintball2
[22:52] <D|2> [12:38] <[Fang]WrWf\store> or c:\games\paintball2
[22:52] <D|2> [12:38] <[Fang]WrWf\store> which ever version ur using
[22:52] <D|2> [12:38] <DaRkNeSS|> okay
[22:52] <D|2> [12:38] <[Fang]WrWf\store> RENAME UR "Paintball2.exe"
[22:52] <D|2> [12:38] <[Fang]WrWf\store> to
[22:52] <D|2> [12:38] <[Fang]WrWf\store> Penix.exe
[22:52] <D|2> [12:38] <[Fang]WrWf\store> then double click My Quake2.exe
[22:52] <D|2> [12:38] <[Fang]WrWf\store> ;p
[22:54] <D|2> [12:58] <[Fang]WrWf\Afk> jitspoes lazy
[22:54] <D|2> [12:58] <DaRkNeSS> why
[22:54] <D|2> [12:58] <[Fang]WrWf\Afk> and didnt code the excrement correctly
[22:55] <D|2> [17:30] <DaRkNeSS|aB> lol
[22:55] <D|2> [17:30] <[Fang]WrWf\afk> alpha channeling
[22:55] <D|2> [17:30] <[Fang]WrWf\afk> ohh
[22:55] <D|2> [17:30] <[Fang]WrWf\afk> i think u can
[22:55] <D|2> [17:31] <[Fang]WrWf\afk> with shader scripts
[22:55] <D|2> [17:31] <[Fang]WrWf\afk> lol
[22:55] <D|2> [17:31] <[Fang]WrWf\afk> u can wall hax
[22:55] <D|2> [17:31] <[Fang]WrWf\afk> but u have to make one for every texture
[22:56] <D|2> [20:07] <[Fang]WrWf\afk> heh
[22:56] <D|2> [20:07] <[Fang]WrWf\afk> thats how the cheat i used was 8 years ago
[22:56] <D|2> [20:07] <DaRkNeSS|aB> sooooooooo
[22:56] <D|2> [20:07] <[Fang]WrWf\afk> it bypassed the maps authentication
[22:56] <D|2> [20:07] <DaRkNeSS|aB> did it work?
[22:56] <D|2> [20:07] <[Fang]WrWf\afk> lol
[22:56] <D|2> [20:07] <[Fang]WrWf\afk> and i had to hack every single map my self
[22:56] <D|2> [20:07] <[Fang]WrWf\afk> lol
[22:56] <D|2> [20:08] <[Fang]WrWf\afk> i use to be able to climb walls and excrement
[22:56] <D|2> [20:08] <[Fang]WrWf\afk> ;)
[22:56] <D|2> [20:08] <[Fang]WrWf\afk> if i ran the server
[22:56] <D|2> [20:08] <[Fang]WrWf\afk> lol
[22:57] <D|2> ill find the spikes stuff later
[22:57] <D|2> tired of pasting
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Here are some logs of one of DP's esteemed committee members. Question is, why is/was one of these members who is so tough on hackers so obviously involved in cheating? Why is Knack trying to avoid any type of punishment at all for this offense? Why has Spook not been punished for telling 9 people how to use/make the wallhacks that DaRkNeSS started? If the committee seems to be taking such a tough stance on cheaters, this stance must be taken on ALL cheaters, regardless of whether or not they are a committee member.
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1024 Days for the lot!!!
Edit: You do know that this is going to get deleted right?
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Pathetic.
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lmao, bet I'll get the blame for this one too.
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lmao, bet I'll get the blame for this one too.
naw these were said in a pub channel by darkness
these logs are 3 and 2 years ago and allready has a committee thread in progress. =]
im interested in the outcome of this poll though
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I don't understand how anyone other than WarWulf could vote no on this... Cheaters should be punished. The end.
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I don't understand how anyone other than WarWulf could vote no on this... Cheaters should be punished. The end.
im actually not going to vote
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english please?
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I believe that ban should be 1024 days.
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Doesn't matter how old anything is, you cheat, you should do the time.
"I murdered this guy 15 years ago, its all good though, it happened in the past"
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Doesn't matter how old anything is, you cheat, you should do the time.
"I murdered this guy 15 years ago, its all good though, it happened in the past"
lol tad extreme but point taken
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well first i didnt give darkness a wall hack, second off i only told him how to change a tga file. that i had totaly long forgoten about.
that is petty offence why are you compairing it to murder? LoL
it is more like. i sold him a gun.... i didnt know he would kill anyone with it.
and most important part is ive allready admited to using penix in the past many many times. you have many many a chance to ban me for it . why now?? :P
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there is nothing too extreme for these forums. you'd better learn that.
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there is nothing too extreme for these forums. you'd better learn that.
You != These forums
EDIT: This is directed at wulfie, not cola.
And it's pretty obvious that if you give someone specific instructions that they'll use them.
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ok....
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Doesn't matter how old anything is, you cheat, you should do the time.
"I murdered this guy 15 years ago, its all good though, it happened in the past"
Do you not remember jitspoe giving everyone a "clean slate"? He said if you did it before, don't think of doing it again.
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aww smokey you ruined it =/ i wanted to see what everyone really thought. i might leave if everyone wants me gone :P
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Surely this undated log isn't enough to ban WarWulf... When the evidence becomes unconvincing, we have a witch hunt.
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BURN THE WITCH!
*poof*
[13:25] <@D|2> [23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> smoke1_0.tga
[13:25] <+MikeN> foxhound yu lying intercourse
[13:25] <@D|2> [23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> that file is positivly the texture
[13:25] <@D|2> [23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> i just opend it in photoshop
[13:25] <@D|2> [23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> lol
[13:26] <@D|2> [23:13] <DaRkNeSS|> well
[13:26] <@D|2> [23:13] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> their i fixed it ;P
[13:26] <+Foxhound> u wish
[13:26] <@D|2> [23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> .tga file format
[13:26] <@D|2> [23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> has the highest priority
[13:26] <@D|2> [23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding>
[13:26] <@D|2> [23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> to be honest with you
[13:26] <@[Fang]Wulfie\busy> lol
[13:26] <@D|2> [23:14] <DaRkNeSS|> k send it
[13:26] <@[Fang]Wulfie\busy> that might of been me ^^
[13:26] <@[Fang]Wulfie\busy> when are those logs from??
[13:26] <@DaRkNeSS|> july 17th 2006
[13:27] <@[Fang]Wulfie\busy> heh 2 years ago
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rad. :)
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Surely this undated log isn't enough to ban WarWulf... When the evidence becomes unconvincing, we have a witch hunt.
The dated logs as well as the modified file that Warwulf made have already been shown to Jitspoe.
Session Start: Sat Sep 23 23:03:12 2006
Session Ident: [Fang]Wulf\Coding
[23:05] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> bah
[23:05] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> its jitspoe changed the format of the pcx files
[23:06] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> lol
[23:09] <DaRkNeSS|> weird
[23:09] <DaRkNeSS|> i looked at grensmoke
[23:09] <DaRkNeSS|> thats theh hud file
[23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> yeah
[23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> i found the other one
[23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> its in the model files
[23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> the one you said
[23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> skin
[23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> air
[23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> and pcx is a photoshop file
[23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> or land
[23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> i looked at all 3
[23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> in the gren folder
[23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> didnt think any would be the smoke while it is in the air
[23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> i also looked
[23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> could it be a texture
[23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> paintball2\pball\models\items\grenades\smoke
[23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> yah i went there
[23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> there is 3 files
[23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> land
[23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> air
[23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> skin
[23:11] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> omg
[23:11] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> im a fukin idiot lmao
[23:11] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> its pball\sprites
[23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> lol
[23:11] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> lmao
[23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> smoke.sp2
[23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> lol
[23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> what progs can edit that
[23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> dont know what smoke.sp2 is
[23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> but smoke1_0 or what ever is the texture
[23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> smoke1_0.tga
[23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> that file is positivly the texture
[23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> i just opend it in photoshop
[23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> lol
[23:13] <DaRkNeSS|> well
[23:13] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> their i fixed it ;P
[23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> lol
[23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> just to let you know
[23:14] <DaRkNeSS|> let me see if it worked
[23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> .tga file format
[23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> has the highest priority
[23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> :P
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i didnt modify anything... thats what was said in the chatroom. when i asked darkness.
thnx for clearing up the real date though
umm about the modfied files. can i get some dcc logs of me sending darkness the file. when i asked him he didnt show me them...
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Of all people a committee member should not have any cheat involvement. My opinion he deserves a 256*256 day ban. EDIT: Modified smoke files were not detected at the time Eiii.
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Does the 'Clean Slate' thing apply only to detectable hacks, or poor behavior as well? Either way, this just seems like a retaliation-accusation to me.
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Giving out cheats and or How Too cheat = Banned. gg
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Either way, this just seems like a retaliation-accusation to me.
As far as I know coLa isn't banned so what would he want vengeance for exactly?
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As far as I know darkness isn't banned so what would he want vengeance for exactly?
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^confused^
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you seem it :)
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You guys are idiots. I really hate this game and its community after this past week.
Do you know how many people there are in this community who hacked back when I first started playing, when ZGH was undetectable and so was Penix for a little while? a lot.
Bringing up logs to get people who have put a lot of time / effort into this game into trouble for something 3 years old is ridiculous.
And if you guys are telling me that DaRkNeSS isnt smart enough to know you can edit tga files in photoshop youre kidding me.
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Bringing up logs to get people who have put a lot of time / effort into this game into trouble for something 3 years old is ridiculous.
I have put a lot of time into this game too.
But as long as it's for effort: jitspoe is the name...
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You know what the beauty of IRC logs are?
<Hades> I SUCK YEAH!!!!!
Now tell me if that was fabricated or not. I know most of you are going to be like, yeah right that's so true. Well it is, and that was a test.
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Just as a side note, Ez, Cal, (I think Jit was in there as well) and I had a discussion back in '99 about the problem with cheaters & hacks.
If everyone that has or does play DP ever did or "just inhaled" a cheat, then there would be like 2 players left.
Most of the really good players know who they are
Rock on Jit
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Hi Sad.
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You know what the beauty of IRC logs are?
<Hades> I SUCK YEAH!!!!!
Now tell me if that was fabricated or not. I know most of you are going to be like, yeah right that's so true. Well it is, and that was a test.
Exactly the point I came on to make. I could wake up one morning, a log could be fabricated by me, and I would be banned soley because the committee hates me and would deem that as evidence of me hacking. When really no one should be banned off an IRC "log" seeing as there is no way to prove it is really what the individual said.
[02:38] <@BoB> i'm just glad my wlalhack is still undetectable
[02:38] <@BoB> would have to quit if i couldn't play with it
Real or not? I'll let you decide. But I mean, seriously, we all know eR33t hacks, how else would they always beat these people that are constantly caught cheating.
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http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=12047.0
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Him hacking in the past is not enough to ban him now. That was too long ago before there was any type of protection in place. However, someone like that should not be allowed on the committee, whether or not the committee members were voted on by the community or not. Don't ban him, but remove him from the committee.
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LMAO
YES LETS BRING NEW RULES INTO EFFECT, AND APPLY THEM TO EVERY OFFENCE IN THE PAST.
EVEN BETTER, LETS TELL EVERYONE TO DO SOMETHING LEGAL TODAY, THEN MAKE IT PUNISHABLE BY DEATH NEXT WEEK, AND KILL THEM FOR IT.
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LMFAO
CARCOAL WAS BANNED FOR AN OFFENCE IN THE PAST
LMFAOZZZ
Note- I'm just trying to act like the esteemed member of the dp committee - lekky.
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I think my childish post is totally appropriate for the thread...
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I think my childish post is totally appropriate for the thread...
Seconded. Wulf wouldn't be in this position if some people would just let things go...
Edit: Finally an autococker!
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heh why not have an ex cheater on the committee. easier to bust other cheaters :)
but we really dont deal with to many cheaters.
mostly just things with the login system.
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I originally voted yes but i didnt realize how old it was. I would like to change my vote to no. Thank you.
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#Vote "No" for propostion 118!
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Since carcoal got banned for a demo which is over a year old then Warwulf deserves to get banned as well, or just remove carcoals ban.
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Carcoal isn't banned
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He is on the ban list. 4th or 5th down.
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carcoal
Reason: Modified content/wallhack
Created: 2008-02-11 02:49:58, Modified: 2008-02-11 02:53:41, Expires: 2008-03-14 02:53:41
Days Left: 29.7
Discussion: http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=11999
Not only is he banned, the discussion leads right to the topic on a demo thats a year or more old.
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Carcoal isn't banned
Way to be an informed member of the committee..
Congrats.
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He was banned directly by Jits and not by the committee. The committee didn't vote.
Point your b1tches in his direction.
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I don't remember anyone blaming the committee on carcoal's ban, but thanks for clarifying something I already knew.....
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I'm not b1tching about the ban, I don't think anyone is, other than people that want to know why, now that the precedent has been set, Uni has not received the same ban. Whether or not people feel he "deserves" it or not, a standard is set by that ban...
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Just as a side note, Ez, Cal, (I think Jit was in there as well) and I had a discussion back in '99 about the problem with cheaters & hacks.
If everyone that has or does play DP ever did or "just inhaled" a cheat, then there would be like 2 players left.
Most of the really good players know who they are
Rock on Jit
Might as well shut down the game if we're banning people from things they did years ago. I had penix, ban me too.
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Might as well shut down the game if we're banning people from years ago.
I don't get that argument, just because you had no intergrity and cheated, why must we shut the game down? Do you assume we all need an unfair advantage?
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I'm not b1tching about the ban, I don't think anyone is, other than people that want to know why, now that the president has been set, Uni has not received the same ban. Whether or not people feel he "deserves" it or not, a standard is set by that ban...
Who is the president?
I don't get that argument, just because you had no intergrity and cheated, why must we shut the game down? Do you assume we all need an unfair advantage?
Maybe not need, but definitely used an unfair advantage
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sooo what are you trying to ban me for y2j??
wall hacking (which i should of been banned when i said something about it a year ago)
or telling darkness about .tga files???
you probably dont care. either one is an excuse to have me be removed form this game to make you happier. and thats very bias.
maybe this will change your attitude y2j, SnowCone Paintballs.
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Carcoal has been banned for a demo a year old?
I think this thread has the wrong title...
'Unban Carcoal pls' should be more appropriate...
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sooo what are you trying to ban me for y2j??
wall hacking (which i should of been banned when i said something about it a year ago)
or telling darkness about .tga files???
you probably dont care. either one is an excuse to have me be removed form this game to make you happier. and thats very bias.
maybe this will change your attitude y2j, SnowCone Paintballs.
I'm not trying to ban you, if you were capable of comprehension you would see that.
But since Carcoal has been banned, for a demo a year old, a standard has been set, that if you cheated in the past, and there is proof, you will be banned.
In your case, you admittedly hacked and told people how to, thus you should also be banned, as carcoal was, despite it being in the past.
Ideally, neither of you would be banned. But seeing as Carcoal is, how is it fair that you aren't?
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Who is the president?
Way to edit my post to make it say something I didn't. CAN'T YOU SPELL PRECEDENT?
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Way to edit my post to make it say something I didn't. CAN'T YOU SPELL PRECEDENT?
Nice try... « Last Edit: Today at 02:45:36 PM by Y2J »
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I'm not trying to ban you, if you were capable of comprehension you would see that.
But since Carcoal has been banned, for a demo a year old, a standard has been set, that if you cheated in the past, and there is proof, you will be banned.
In your case, you admittedly hacked and told people how to, thus you should also be banned, as carcoal was, despite it being in the past.
Ideally, neither of you would be banned. But seeing as Carcoal is, how is it fair that you aren't?
!!!! The standard is wrong!!!
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Nice try... « Last Edit: Today at 02:45:36 PM by Y2J »
Prove what I edited. muahahhaa.
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Be careful what you ask for.
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well y2j
you really dont know me that well
when i made my topic "my ban tim"
i didnt have 0 days on there. or anything under 256 days, i wouldnt mind the ban, because im that darn cool.
jitspoe edited it, probably didnt think i was being fair to myself.
also you dont know what ive said in the committee thread about me hacking in the past.
just stop before you make yourself feel stupid.
this was brought out to the public so prematurely that we in the committee havnt really had a chance to talk about it in there because we now have to defuse public relations again.
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!!!! The standard is wrong!!!
I agree... So it's either time to immediately remove carcoal's ban, or also ban Uni. Don't let another week pass before action is taken...
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well y2j
you really dont know me that well
when i made my topic "my ban tim"
i didnt have 0 days on there. or anything under 256 days, i wouldnt mind the ban, because im that darn cool.
jitspoe edited it, probably didnt think i was being fair to myself.
also you dont know what ive said in the committee thread about me hacking in the past.
just stop before you make yourself feel stupid.
this was brought out to the public so prematurely that we in the committee havnt really had a chance to talk about it in there because we now have to defuse public relations again.
Make myself feel stupid? How exactly am I doing that? You admittedly hacked in the past. Carcoal has been banned for hacking in the past. What puts you above Carcoal for not getting banned? And furthermore, please don't tell me you are partaking in any committee discussion involving your case. That is unfair to every person that has ever been brought up to the committee. NO ONE else has had the opportunity to be constantly present, and present their case, and let the committee handle it with that person constantly on them. Talk about unfair...
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heh that is true. ^^ i do have a unique chance of slipping the noose right? but that would be unfair to carcoal who is a member of my clan [fang] also to bdog who is a member and a real life friend.
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I agree... So it's either time to immediately remove carcoal's ban, or also ban Uni. Don't let another week pass before action is taken...
Exactly..
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Ban
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I'm just saying. We have no proof that you aren't partaking in the debate on the committee. Being banned by the committee personally, I know I had no chance to present my case, and I'm sure many other didn't. This is just another one of the many problems that can be seen with the current committee set up. If there is even an investigation in to why you haven't been banned and carcoal is (which there should be) you should not be partaking in the thread, even though you are on the committee, because that is not fair to anyone else who has had committee action taken against them.
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By the way, Uni ---> instead of asking people on IRC for logs of me admittedly hacking, why not just forge one?
<uni> I hacked for at least 3 years and distributed hacks to every member of each clan I was in for those 3... probably about 40 people total and who knows who they sent them too.
OH MAN, I CAUGHT YOU>@!#@!#@!
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I got logs of Y2J admitting he cheated.
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I'm just saying. We have no proof that you aren't partaking in the debate on the committee. Being banned by the committee personally, I know I had no chance to present my case, and I'm sure many other didn't. This is just another one of the many problems that can be seen with the current committee set up. If there is even an investigation in to why you haven't been banned and carcoal is (which there should be) you should not be partaking in the thread, even though you are on the committee, because that is not fair to anyone else who has had committee action taken against them.
hmm.. Jitspoe should probably block access to the committee forum where a case is brought forward involving a member (he might have already done so im not sure tbh)
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No, I'm pretty sure when I was on the committee he posted many times in his own thread.
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Carcoal's ban was probably a bit too preemptive. I thought, because of the content and the fact that it was just posted, that it was recent. Plus I had people bugging me - wondering why I hadn't taken action yet, etc. I haven't heard anything from carcoal, though. I tried to ask him about it when the demo was first posted, but he had recently signed off of irc. I figured he'd contact me after the ban. I wouldn't use that case as a precedent.
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So is cola's ban going to be revoked, or...?
EDIT: I mean carcoal.
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Nope.
Please some one direct me to direct proof that Uni hacked and gave out hacks?
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Nope.
Please some one direct me to direct proof that Uni hacked and gave out hacks?
By his own admission in one of these threads and well known before... (by his own admission)
By his own admission in one of these threads and well known before... (by his own admission)
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So is cola's ban going to be revoked, or...?
my ban for what now?
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Carcoal, sorry.
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thought so.
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well y2j i said that because j0e said that he and all of er33t should of been banned for using those snowcone shaped paintballs.
and basically i asked him for some logs..
its called investigating lol, why would i make fake logs.
oh just in case you dont know what that is...
to search out and examine the particulars of in an attempt to learn the facts about something hidden, unique, or complex, esp. in an attempt to find a motive, cause, or culprit: The police are investigating the murder.
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Which murder are the police investigating exactly? I'm lost.
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And uni, here's the evidence you are looking for:
Loial21: One thing we can say is I saw a nade bounce off of you. Obviously this was bad luck on our part, also I witnessed when you were camping in indune ( your flag base) nd killed me I then witnessed Sandman shoot over 15 balls right out you then at 15' or so the balls started angleing consistantly away from you to your right
PROOF OF FORCEFIELD HAX.
The demo is even better.
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lol.
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FORCEFIELD DOOKIE
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mm demo?
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:)
Why not post the entire thread as its relevent to where i was comming from.
Guess you dont know......
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thats a typical responce id expect from a person like y2j
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INdeed.....nothing but irc hear say.....
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With all that's been happening lately I think... well dammit.. I think dp needs a new THEME SONG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NzgPNpQkno) most of all :D
Seriously though, getting out of hand. People are starting to just jump on the bandwagon of trying to get people banned for the sake of getting someone banned (http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=12088.0)
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agreed
Lets vote on a punishment that relevent.
Superloial.
:o