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Do you(the community) think Warwulf should be banned?

Yes.
37 (61.7%)
No.
23 (38.3%)

Total Members Voted: 59

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coLa

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2008, 11:52:26 PM »
Surely this undated log isn't enough to ban WarWulf... When the evidence becomes unconvincing, we have a witch hunt.


The dated logs as well as the modified file that Warwulf made have already been shown to Jitspoe.

Session Start: Sat Sep 23 23:03:12 2006
Session Ident: [Fang]Wulf\Coding
[23:05] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> bah
[23:05] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> its jitspoe changed the format of the pcx files
[23:06] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> lol
[23:09] <DaRkNeSS|> weird
[23:09] <DaRkNeSS|> i looked at grensmoke
[23:09] <DaRkNeSS|> thats theh hud file
[23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> yeah
[23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> i found the other one
[23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> its in the model files
[23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> the one you said
[23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> skin
[23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> air
[23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> and pcx is a photoshop file
[23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> or land
[23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> i looked at all 3
[23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> in the gren folder
[23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> didnt think any would be the smoke while it is in the air
[23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> i also looked
[23:10] <DaRkNeSS|> could it be a texture
[23:10] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> paintball2\pball\models\items\grenades\smoke
[23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> yah i went there
[23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> there is 3 files
[23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> land
[23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> air
[23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> skin
[23:11] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> omg
[23:11] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> im a fukin idiot lmao
[23:11] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> its pball\sprites
[23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> lol
[23:11] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> lmao
[23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> smoke.sp2
[23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> lol
[23:11] <DaRkNeSS|> what progs can edit that
[23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> dont know what smoke.sp2 is
[23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> but smoke1_0 or what ever is the texture
[23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> smoke1_0.tga
[23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> that file is positivly the texture
[23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> i just opend it in photoshop
[23:12] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> lol
[23:13] <DaRkNeSS|> well
[23:13] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> their i fixed it ;P
[23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> lol
[23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> just to let you know
[23:14] <DaRkNeSS|> let me see if it worked
[23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> .tga file format
[23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> has the highest priority
[23:14] <[Fang]Wulf\Coding> :P

WarWulf

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2008, 11:54:44 PM »
i didnt modify anything... thats what was said in the chatroom. when i asked darkness.

thnx for clearing up the real date though
 
umm about the modfied files. can i get some dcc logs of me sending darkness the file. when i asked him he didnt show me them...

Homingbullet

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2008, 12:06:22 AM »
Of all people a committee member should not have any cheat involvement. My opinion he deserves a 256*256 day ban. EDIT:  Modified smoke files were not detected at the time Eiii.

Eiii

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2008, 12:11:38 AM »
Does the 'Clean Slate' thing apply only to detectable hacks, or poor behavior as well? Either way, this just seems like a retaliation-accusation to me.

War

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2008, 02:10:06 AM »
Giving out cheats and or How Too cheat = Banned. gg

KiLo

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2008, 02:12:05 AM »
Either way, this just seems like a retaliation-accusation to me.

As far as I know coLa isn't banned so what would he want vengeance for exactly?

WarWulf

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2008, 02:37:10 AM »
As far as I know darkness isn't banned so what would he want vengeance for exactly?

War

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2008, 02:47:17 AM »
^confused^

WarWulf

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2008, 03:00:01 AM »
you seem it :)

FlaMe

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2008, 05:56:02 AM »
You guys are idiots. I really hate this game and its community after this past week.

Do you know how many people there are in this community who hacked back when I first started playing, when ZGH was undetectable and so was Penix for a little while? a lot.

Bringing up logs to get people who have put a lot of time / effort into this game into trouble for something 3 years old is ridiculous.
And if you guys are telling me that DaRkNeSS isnt smart enough to know you can edit tga files in photoshop youre kidding me.

Playah

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2008, 10:00:48 AM »
Bringing up logs to get people who have put a lot of time / effort into this game into trouble for something 3 years old is ridiculous.
I have put a lot of time into this game too.
But as long as it's for effort: jitspoe is the name...

James

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2008, 11:46:24 AM »
You know what the beauty of IRC logs are?

<Hades> I SUCK YEAH!!!!!

Now tell me if that was fabricated or not. I know most of you are going to be like, yeah right that's so true.  Well it is, and that was a test.

Sad|Wk

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2008, 12:23:37 PM »
Just as a side note, Ez, Cal, (I think Jit was in there as well) and I had a discussion back in '99 about the problem with cheaters & hacks.

If everyone that has or does play DP ever did or "just inhaled" a cheat, then there would be like 2 players left.

Most of the really good players know who they are

Rock on Jit

James

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2008, 12:35:10 PM »
Hi Sad.

Y2J

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2008, 12:55:22 PM »
You know what the beauty of IRC logs are?

<Hades> I SUCK YEAH!!!!!

Now tell me if that was fabricated or not. I know most of you are going to be like, yeah right that's so true.  Well it is, and that was a test.

Exactly the point I came on to make. I could wake up one morning, a log could be fabricated by me, and I would be banned soley because the committee hates me and would deem that as evidence of me hacking. When really no one should be banned off an IRC "log" seeing as there is no way to prove it is really what the individual said.

[02:38] <@BoB> i'm just glad my wlalhack is still undetectable
[02:38] <@BoB> would have to quit if i couldn't play with it

Real or not? I'll let you decide. But I mean, seriously, we all know eR33t hacks, how else would they always beat these people that are constantly caught cheating.

WarWulf

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Fyre

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2008, 05:55:15 PM »
Him hacking in the past is not enough to ban him now. That was too long ago before there was any type of protection in place. However, someone like that should not be allowed on the committee, whether or not the committee members were voted on by the community or not. Don't ban him, but remove him from the committee.

lekky

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2008, 07:06:53 PM »
LMAO

YES LETS BRING NEW RULES INTO EFFECT, AND APPLY THEM TO EVERY OFFENCE IN THE PAST.

EVEN BETTER, LETS TELL EVERYONE TO DO SOMETHING LEGAL TODAY, THEN MAKE IT PUNISHABLE BY DEATH NEXT WEEK, AND KILL THEM FOR IT.

Y2J

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2008, 07:15:41 PM »
LMFAO

CARCOAL WAS BANNED FOR AN OFFENCE IN THE PAST

LMFAOZZZ


Note- I'm just trying to act like the esteemed member of the dp committee - lekky.

lekky

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Re: Community's Opinion On Whether Or Not Warwulf Should Be Punished
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2008, 07:25:52 PM »
I think my childish post is totally appropriate for the thread...