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Paintball 2: The Game => Paintball 2 Discussion => Topic started by: ZeroLegend on March 19, 2008, 11:50:58 PM
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Can you start a vote, or just take these out? They're a complete waste and ruining the game. All a person has to do is sit in his base wait for people to move in prime it and let go and the rounds over. Also, people do that suicide excrement to make sure they don't get grabbed on or capped on. I can live with this ball speed excrement but please but the nades back to timed only. Make it a more fun game please, unless your intent on ruining this game even more.
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Try not to stand together so much? I'm surprised you weren't this outraged over impact nades. At least primed grenades take some planning ahead.
And the suicide should be going away. I agree with you there.
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If possible, match servers should have primed nades turned off.
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Also, people do that suicide excrement to make sure they don't get grabbed on or capped on.
You can't suicide to prevent a cap. While you could suicide to prevent a grab, you're guaranteeing the other team a point. And what kind of crappy maps are you playing that 1 grenade would end the round? Spawninabox?
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When you're trying to play maps with those narrow entrances to base for example: roundup, midnight, and others it gets VERY annoying. It really doesn't take any planning by the way. Its the same thing as an impact nade except for the simple fact they need to hold the button in for a second or two. Also, yes you can jits ive seen it done.
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You can't suicide to prevent a cap. While you could suicide to prevent a grab, you're guaranteeing the other team a point. And what kind of crappy maps are you playing that 1 grenade would end the round? Spawninabox?
Lol you're such a newbie. He's not saying he's doing it and killing himself, he's saying the other team is doing when they have a 3v1 advantage and they want to grab the flag. So now say the other teams is up and you guys have a chance to grab the flags but the other guy just kills himself so that chance is gone. EXPERT PLANNING? I'd like to think so. Just another justification of why primed/impact grenades were a stupid idea in the first place.
Also you can tell how clueless you are because you don't even know how big of a joke grenades are and how strong they are. I should compile every gren death I have and atleast half of them are through walls or from 100 feet away.
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Also, yes you can jits ive seen it done.
Could you post a demo? If you're the last person alive and the other team has the flag, you shouldn't be able to suicide.
Primed grenades and timed grenades both take the same amount of time to go off, so you'd have to time them right either way. If you prime a grenade and throw it at an entrance, or just throw it at an entrance, it still takes ~ 2 seconds to go off. Either way, you have to anticipate when a player is going to be there. Also, maps like midnight and roundup have multiple paths, so unless you're all lining up like lemmings, one grenade shouldn't be able to take out your entire team.
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^^I've seen people try. It's funny watching someone try prime nade themselves and just seeing paaint fly all around them... especially if they're by themselves on the other side of the map. lol
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People prime it so it acts like an impact nade. Its apparently not hard since ive seen noobs do it. If you dont want to take it out completely just add a function for match servers so they can make it timed only.
Since you dont match much i can understand why you are trying to say you have to anticipate people being in a certain place, even though i thought it was common sense..., my response to that is Recon.
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People prime it so it acts like an impact nade. Its apparently not hard since ive seen noobs do it. If you dont want to take it out completely just add a function for match servers so they can make it timed only.
Since you dont match much i can understand why you are trying to say you have to anticipate people being in a certain place, even though i thought it was common sense..., my response to that is Recon.
Request 'server side nade options'
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Err, if you take off just primed grenades, it will make no difference because all you have to do is chase your self-thrown timed grenade and wait for it to explode and wa-hey you're dead.
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Recon.
I think that's the bigger problem here. I'm sure I'll catch some flak for this, but I still feel that ghosting or dead-man recon is effectively a form of wall hacking.
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I think that's the bigger problem here. I'm sure I'll catch some flak for this, but I still feel that ghosting or dead-man recon is effectively a form of wall hacking.
This is the first game I'v played where I have been able to give away another players position while being dead. It doesn't happen in real paintball, but i guess theres nothing you can do to avoid it.
and ZL suck it up.
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ZL catches all nades. this is pathetic. lock this.
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This is the first game I'v played where I have been able to give away another players position while being dead. It doesn't happen in real paintball, but i guess theres nothing you can do to avoid it.
Actually, there's a setting to lock the chasecam to your teammates.
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Obsblackout!
Or, even better, a 3-5 second delay for observers. And chasecam teamlock. :D
The whole clan-matches-based-on-recon thing is icky. :<
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First of all you cant die from chasing a timed nade and sitting on it. Second, even if you change it so they cant recon the point is if youre smart and you know the general area of the person all you have to do is prime and release.
I catch all the nades? Sorry kinda hard to avoid them when they are in a narrow hall and explode right next to me before i have a chance to move, unlike timed. =/
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Can you start a vote, or just take these out? They're a complete waste and ruining the game. All a person has to do is sit in his base wait for people to move in prime it and let go and the rounds over. Also, people do that suicide excrement to make sure they don't get grabbed on or capped on. I can live with this ball speed excrement but please but the nades back to timed only. Make it a more fun game please, unless your intent on ruining this game even more.
Well if you know that people can prime grenades, change your little ima rush strategy.
I say dont do something that will leave you exposed.
Think when you play.
Lol you're such a newbie. He's not saying he's doing it and killing himself, he's saying the other team is doing when they have a 3v1 advantage and they want to grab the flag. So now say the other teams is up and you guys have a chance to grab the flags but the other guy just kills himself so that chance is gone. EXPERT PLANNING? I'd like to think so. Just another justification of why primed/impact grenades were a stupid idea in the first place.
Also you can tell how clueless you are because you don't even know how big of a joke grenades are and how strong they are. I should compile every gren death I have and atleast half of them are through walls or from 100 feet away.
Dont get behind. Then you won't have to be put in that situation.
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Dont get behind. Then you won't have to be put in that situation.
Lol? Is this a serious statement?
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:O don't get behind..... excrement and my strategy for the past 3 years was to try and get behind first :(
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Theres a function where you can make your team un specable?
Please PM me this ;]
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People prime it so it acts like an impact nade.
So? you still need planning to know when to prime it. It's a good job that you can't prime whilest shooting, though.
Theres a function where you can make your team un specable?
I think what you mean is where you have to use the chase-cam on your own team. There is, but it's not very effective cos you can go to a wall, and the dude speccing you can look around the wall for you and tell you if someone's there using the free-rotate cam. Also, it takes the fun out of it. :D
recon takes some typing (or binding) skills to work effectively
First of all you cant die from chasing a timed nade and sitting on it.
? I've done it loads of times, killing myself with a timed grenade. easy. I don't usually do it on purpose, though so that I can lose the round
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Its because you have prime nade set in your settings as your nade button. A true timed nade can not kill you, never could never will.
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Theres a function where you can make your team un specable?
forcedchasecam 1, I believe
recon takes some typing (or binding) skills to work effectively
Or you just get on ventrilo and say, "Hey, he's behind the box."
Its because you have prime nade set in your settings as your nade button. A true timed nade can not kill you, never could never will.
They were supposed to, but didn't, because of a bug. Later that was fixed to prevent cheap tactics for impact grenades and was also applied to the timed grenades, but some people whined and cried because they couldn't chuck a grenade in front of them then sit on it like they did in the past, so I disabled suicides again for servers with impact grenades disabled. If impact grenades are enabled, timed grenades will still kill you, though.
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So the end result is suck it up and game like a killer... not whiner.
*winks.
Kind of like the people that complain about maps. I can do this or I can do that, but what I want to do I cant because I am dead.
Time to (no offence) coordinate your offensive strategies.
blitz and bain were best at this
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Apparently you have not played against prime nades loial. Its kinda hard to make any offense strategy when you have a nade exploding right in between you as you go to move. These are worse than impact for the simple fact people can make them explode in the air. This basically ruins any old maps trying to be played, for example pbcup, pforest, roundup, etc. All they have to do is make it explode in a tight hall like in pforest or just make it explode over ice like in pbcup so you die as you go in to rush.
There should be at least a server function to disable them for match servers. This way things will go back to using nades for strategic moves not just spamming them to kill everyone as they rush
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seriously ive played this game a long ass time now and coming back to dp these primed grens and impact grens are pathetic. i understand smoke grens more than impact as you can use them to cover yourself and blind the enemy. timed grens are good because you can toss them into an enemies base to frighten them then rush them or even if you 1v3, toss a gren before you hear the rush and hopefully kill a couple (or all 3). i get so annoyed when you play any map (recently all the maps on publics are shaz33 and pp1) but if ur 3v1 in a match and wanting to grab they just kill themselves. furthermore all a player has to be (a newbie whos played a day could do this) is toss an impact in a small base and kill 4 players.... wheres the fun in that?!?!?!? jitspoe the ball flight is bareable.... these grenades are not.....
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just dont play in small maps then
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just dont play in small maps then
But Roundup = the best map ever created.
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Don't play in small maps? Sorry i don't like playing huge maps all the time like most of DT's maps. I don't mind them that much but playing them every map gets old real fast.
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You can skill it up with primed nades in most of the maps. Not in the 2flag maps though.
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It's just another strategy to learn. Learn to use primed nades and you'll stop hating them.
I also think recon is pretty vital in a game where it is 1 hit kill. I understand both points of view but when one shot takes you out you need every edge you can get. It still doesn't give you an advantage 1v3 or 1v4 but it makes it possible. Caps and grabs would go WAAAAY up in matches if there were none.
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It's just another strategy to learn. Learn to use primed nades and you'll stop hating them.
I also think recon is pretty vital in a game where it is 1 hit kill. I understand both points of view but when one shot takes you out you need every edge you can get. It still doesn't give you an advantage 1v3 or 1v4 but it makes it possible. Caps and grabs would go WAAAAY up in matches if there were none.
Especially since sound is off sometimes too. Recon is fairly important when you go to the matching scene.
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Personally i will never use primes... i dont like them at all. In my opinion they are cheap kills since there is almost no way to avoid them unless jits perfect nade hit boxes intercourse up. I dont like getting cheap kills.
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Personally i will never use primes... i dont like them at all. In my opinion they are cheap kills since there is almost no way to avoid them unless jits perfect nade hit boxes intercourse up. I dont like getting cheap kills.
I can see what you mean but if you're getting nailed by primes all the time either your aim is really bad and when someone sees you he has the time to prime a nade, or you're too predictable and people prime when going round a corner. I admit on maps like blitz when a nade just comes flying from over the barrels directly at you then it's a bit hard to do anything and it doesn't fall into either catagory, but on big maps it's completely different
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Its called recon.