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Paintball 2: The Game => Server Discussion => Topic started by: jitspoe on November 13, 2005, 04:37:18 PM
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To add an IP to the ban list, login and type "addip <ip>" Alternatively, you can use "sv addip <ip>" through the console or rcon. I'll try to keep this list updated as cheaters have been confirmed.
Name: Clipz
IP: 66.31.93.48
Reason: Wallhacking in a match. See http://dpball.com/forums/index.php?topic=1361.0
Name: pinobot
IP: 83.84.53.235
Reason: Confirmed wallhack. Initially I turned my head because I thought he was just testing, but now it appears he's cheating on a regular basis.
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uhh no i wasent really axe... lmfao
and wtf using my webspace to try and intercourse me?
i wasent really axe just to say i know redx was playing i was in ventrillo with himiginally i didnt know who AxE was, but i just saw this on mIRC: "<Smokey> i was axe". From those demos it is clear that at least 1 to 2 other members of KEA are wallhacking besides AxE. Thus it is noteworthy that Smokey related this piece of information: "<Smokey> i know redx played." redx being RedxKing.
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pathetic.
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well i hope you know it wasent me but i will let ya keep that demo up even though your trying to F me in the A with it
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Name: Skater
IP: 24.29.36.161
Reason: demos of him hacking
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Lmao. Smokey dont fake your name trying to get me banned.
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Oh, and that obviously not gangster, considering Gangsta doesn't even have mIRC so how would he know my IP? Also gangster is obviously not a member of the forums so how would he know I was considering of hacking?
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The problems with this thread have already arisen. People saying others were hacking out of animosity. We'll have to think of something new again
Jits should just delete all the posts made by people under 16.
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Warning to ?MoP] NEWB / WATSON.
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Considering this was started by jitspoe, how about we let Jitspoe make the list instead of newbs trying to blame other newbs for hacking??
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And not just for cheating. Harsement needs to be considered as well.
Perhaps Jitspoe, and then elected clan leaders, should be posting here.
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How about just jits? That'd make it a lot easier, and people can PM him. Locked thread! The first in... forever!
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i like the idea of jits doing this, then at least you know the names aren't made up
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Troubles...
The problem with letting everyone post ip's to be banned is quite obvious. For example, I watched all three demos which dt posted. I wasn't using a wallhack, but I didn't see anything happen which couldn't be explained normally. Maybe if I had used a wallhack to view them I'd see it differently. What I did see was all of EXT being quite pathetic and rude with all their comments. Again, I'm not saying there wasn't any wallhacking going on but it wasn't as obvious to me as their comments would lead you to believe.
As far as them not spraying all the time:
Why spray all the time, with the new gun temp setting alot of us have learned not to spray so much. Since you must have had gun_temp off EXT was spraying alot, especially while rushing into the base. Also remember, this map was indune, one entry into the base. While watching the demo from the "hacking" teams view I could see your spray and hear your guns, this allows the "defending hacker" to know almost exactly what your position is. By them not spraying they don't give away their position until you see the impact grenade flying at you. :)
Looking through walls:
Could be, probably should be watched with a wallhack to see if the "hackers" are following targets or such, but it wasn't obvious to me. Recon sometimes seems like a wallhack... could be just recon.
Running back into his base, running from your grenade? It looked like to me he was simply going back for another grenade.
My point is that there needs to be solid prove, no guessing. Pinobot and BSoD have proved that prove themselves and should be perm banned. Others deserve the same perm ban I'm sure. I think alot of people have wallhacks or cheats, but I don't think very many people either know how or choose to use them.
I would like to see the wall of shame list regulated somehow and will volunteer some time to help if needed.
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The list is the first post only. It will be updated when I can confirm that someone is violating the EULA.
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tt for doing something. do I need to ban on the loial server or have you takin care of this?
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I haven't yet.
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Bad Taco. Your dismissive responce is a discredit to your arguement, despite your retort.
So, Let me get this right
Unless you've been in a clan first, and you know how to cheat second, then and only then you can claim somthing is unfair?
Your logic is flawed like you last post about hobo having no credit.
I am never correct so consider this a slap in thy face ;) This will end in a mature way, somehow.
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Hobo:
matched - yes
matched with and against dirtytaco - yes
been in a clan - yes
been in a clan with dirtytaco - yes
reviewed demo's for wallhacking - no, do you think noone but a clan member can see wallhacks?
I clearly stated I wasn't prepared to view the demo's for wallhacking. You're right, you shouldn't have responded.
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I've looked at demos that, i have been told, are the most clear evidence of a walhack in progress and, for the life of me, I can't tell.
Since viewing that clear walhack demo I have decided I cannot tell a walhack if it were staring at me through a wall. So I say little or nothing about hax anymore. I just play.
My point is...I think it takes a certain "eye" to "see" that someone is walhacking, even in a blatant demo. Some have it, some don't.
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Agreed.
Whoever disagrees is just stupid. ;)
Take it from people who have more experience with this.
Any small map WILL be sprayed. There is NEVER, EVER a match in indune (or anything like that) that won't be sprayed. Even Blitz, myself, or anybody that you'd consider 'good' wouldn't be able to stare at an entrance and respond quick enough to kill them coming in EVERY TIME. You think 'AxE' can do it? He's BLATANTLY wallhacking.
Smokey, you still suck with it on.
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but then went on to openly distribute his hack.
When did I distribute it?
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BSoD...it really doesn't matter if you really DID or not as long as everyone thinks you did.
It's a hypothetical synaptic conundrum of the cranial cortex.
If you float you are a witch.
If not you are innocent, but drown.
darn YE TO HELL hax0r distribut0r.
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BSoD...it really doesn't matter if you really DID or not as long as everyone thinks you did.
It's a hypothetical synaptic conundrum of the cranial cortex.
If you float you are a witch.
If not you are innocent, but drown.
darn YE TO HELL hax0r distribut0r.
See the only problem is that now I'm blacklisted I could distribute hacks without any fears of having anything worse happen to me.. If I'm banned from the forum: Proxy (whoop de doo)
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BSoD...it really doesn't matter if you really DID or not as long as everyone thinks you did.
It's a hypothetical synaptic conundrum of the cranial cortex.
If you float you are a witch.
If not you are innocent, but drown.
darn YE TO HELL hax0r distribut0r.
lmao
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Well, somehow, people got copies of your hack. If that's not distribution, I don't know what is. :P
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Warning to (s!x)>MaX
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Well, somehow, people got copies of your hack. If that's not distribution, I don't know what is. :P
Whom? I didn't give it out. BTW: This hack uses a very simple method which would be tried quite fast by any hackmaker with the same result. (The hack would look the same -> not the same hack)
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lol digi
the point im saying is it wasent me. I didnt think i would be flipped out on for a hint of sarcasim.
This is when i start to regret being so sarcastic.
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Wait till build 15, in which my hack is disabled (I sent jits the source). If people are still claiming to use my hack (which I haven't even heard yet, wanna tell me who?) then they lie.
Oh, and IronFist - You said you could code hacks on IRC, could it also not be you ;)?
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You see the most obvious proof of a wallhack are people that don't spray a point when ANYONE else who isn't wallhacking would spray that point. This is because they can see when people are and are not coming near that point. Now on a map like castle1, not spraying a certain area may be able to be explained away since there are very few 'choke points.' On a map like indune though, if you're not spraying the two choke points than it's either your first day playing dp or you're wallhacking. Further, watching AxE not spray, then toss an impact grenade right at the right instant? Thats not proof?
This isn't the most intuitivly obvious proof though. You'd think: 'oh yea ill see him looking through the wall.' Well you wont see this unless you watch the demo with the wallhack on.
I could see where hobo might get the wrong impression from this sort of proof. As Blitz noted last night:
<Blitz> hobo is funny in dp
<Blitz> that fool has so much fun like sitting behind crates
<Blitz> waiting for people to pass him
Hobo isn't the type of camper that sprays a choke point, but rather the type that would want recon to be abolished (since he actually sits in the same spot longer than two seconds). Thus this sort of 'non-spraying' proof might not be as obvious to him.
Further, gun temp is no explanation for not spraying. The ONLY public and match servers that ever get played on do not use the gun temp setting. I am sure that Smokey AxE whatever has rarely if ever played with gun temp.
I don't remember ever clanning with you or matching with you. If i have it must have been for a very short period of time. I've been MATCHING against wallhackers on and off for at least 5-6 years now. I know when someone is wallhacking.
So it takes one to know one? :)
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Dreamer, nothing but a dreamer. 'supertramp'
I know I am right. so bleh ;)
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WOW loail you impress me yet again..this time with your range of music. :o
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Cheaters... what losers. JUST STOP IT! Thank you that is all, now have a good day.
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BSoD: Ok, so maybe there was a big conspiracy where some players got together, created a hack that behaved exactly like the screenshots you previously posted, attributed it to you, created a fake website, and then individually informed me at various intervals through different mediums.
That's a possibility.
However, even if you did not distribute your cheat, you've already openly admitted to creating and using it.
I'm not going to disclose who all informed me of the cheat distribution. I don't want to punish people for doing the right thing and letting me know about a new cheat, because inevitably others will jump to the conclusion that the informant is also using the cheat. I will say this, though, IronFist was not one of the people who told me.
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BSoD is hacker. You got's to use skill man SKILL. That is all.
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Jitspoe: Was the site my photobucket? Or can you pm me the site. Ill stay banned if you want, I just wanna see the site
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BSoD is hacker. You got's to use skill man SKILL. That is all.
Lmfao, cause you straight up ball glen?
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lmfao my virgin eyes
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ok something realy has to be done about these hackers i mean they are never going to get good hacking,
even with their cheats they are all soo darn pathetic its realy pittiful these people who come on to servers and blatently cheat
are to hard to catch because the poeple who run the servers obviously dont care... *cough* gt *cough* wouldnt it be beter for any user to retrive
another users ip to help identify people who are known cheaters. or another way is to start building a list of cheats and have soemthing that checks if
a cheat is in the paintball directory but then again i dont know to much about the actul programing of cheats soo i would asume some would be harder to
trace then others.
TO JITSPOE
another thing to think about adding to ur game. when ur cameraing people. would it make it that much laggyer to make it so it copys all the info ( fov/hand/sky/etc ) i would assume that it wouldnt be that much more complex.
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We don't need fov or sky... hand is questionable.
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Wait till build 15, in which my hack is disabled (I sent jits the source). If people are still claiming to use my hack (which I haven't even heard yet, wanna tell me who?) then they lie.
Oh, and IronFist - You said you could code hacks on IRC, could it also not be you ;)?
You're right, I've done far more than you could hope with DP - so has my dear haxoring mentor. I do it for fun and show off (sshots) to a few select people. Everyone needs to stroke their ego!
I'm not sure Jits can fix it without crazily obfusticating the code - after all, I could do what you did with about 3 mouse clicks.
Ultimately, I hope to help stop cheating.
*clicks*
one
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Nope... didnt work.
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Forgive me, heavenly Father, for i have wallhacked.
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Thou art forgiven, my son. Go ye and sayith three Hail Midnights, and two Our 2Fort5 That Art In Heaven.