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Fairness Enforcement => Cheater Reports and Bans => Topic started by: Derrek on April 15, 2006, 10:08:14 PM

Title: Impersonators
Post by: Derrek on April 15, 2006, 10:08:14 PM
Recently, there have been a few impersonators floating around.

[GT]Nick was caught today on IP 84.153.24.176 (p549918B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de.).  He told me that [GT]Sharon invited him to the clan.  Two people told me that they were invited to the clan from [GT]Nick.  They were [GT]Mike and M0ney.  This person was never in GT (not to be confussed with the old player PartyPooper) and had no athority to invite people to GT.  Other names that he has used are: *kc*Fidel and [M&MK]TiGGeR.  I was told by someone else that TiGGeR was Agent Smith.

At any rate, who ever is on that IP has earned a ban on GT servers for impersonation.

The impersonator [GT]Mike will not have a ban, as he was 'dupped' into believing that a real GT member invited him into the clan.


Also, [e33t]DirtyBurrito has connected to GT servers several times recently on IP 67.181.161.114(c-67-181-161-114.hsd1.ca.comcast.net).  I requested that person to remove the tag, and quit impersonating DirtyTaco's name.  He ignored me, so I place a tban on him.  A few days later, he actually changed his name to [eR33t]DirtyBurrito and DT told me that he was inviting people into eR33t.  I warned him and then banned him.  I then chased him from server to server (while he kept the offending name) and told him to change it, then contacted the server admins and had him banned from their servers as well.


Any impersonation of GT members (or other clan members/clans) will earn an immediate ban on the GT servers.

I hope that other server admins will follow this example and ban impersonators when they are detected.



I don't like to have to post people's IP addresses, *but*  I feel this kind of activity deserves it as these people are trying to hide their identity through the theft of another’s.  I will continue to post IP addresses for anyone that impersonates.


-Derrek
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: SkateR on April 15, 2006, 10:15:06 PM
Good work.
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Post by: Dirty_Taco on April 15, 2006, 10:22:31 PM
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Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: jitspoe on April 16, 2006, 01:36:44 AM
Thanks, Derrek.  While I am working on a login system to prevent impersonations, I'm sure people will inevitably find ways around it, so it's good to know the admins are willing to take action.  It's also good that you're taking action in the meantime.  With enough work, we can whip this community into shape!

For the record, [M&MK]TiGGeR is, indeed, AgentSmith.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: MrRiblets on April 16, 2006, 01:48:39 AM
Man, Im looking forward to that login system Jits. Nice work Derrek.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: TinMan on April 16, 2006, 02:17:59 AM
This is a problem in many games, and its very anoying when a person claims to be in your clan but truely isn't, and is on a server that isn't yours, so there is nothing you can do that would be immediate action unless and admin is on.
Good work on catching him, and I too await the login system.

Jistpoe, have you played Quake4 and seen the "clan" field that is in the multiplayer setup? I think that would be pretty cool to have, a seperate section of the scoreboard for clan tags. It would be a hastle, but maybe have the login system have a person register a clan name and organize information on it for other so see (e.g. - website, irc channel, members, what the acronmy stands for, etc...), and then only users that are added to the clan via login system could display the clan tags. Just some crazy ideas.

Since I'm posting on a "Cheater Reports and Bans" thread I might as well ask this here: Is there a perma-ban function in build 16? Or would if I were to perma-ban would I have to block their ip on my server or router?
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: MosEz on April 16, 2006, 07:20:52 AM
Derrek u r right... I saw it and u spamed  GET THE  F*** OFF U LITTLE BIT** lmfao nice work on MeMi PuB1 ;)
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: MosEz on April 16, 2006, 07:32:22 AM
@jitspoe Agent smith is indeed [M%MK]TriGGer AND Takanamesi
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: KnacK on April 16, 2006, 08:15:21 AM
Not a good job Derrek, but a great job.

Keep it up.

Maybe staart a thread based strictly on impersonators, or maybe a web page?
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: AgentSmith on April 16, 2006, 12:40:45 PM
Lol, at first Hi derrek!

I know that I am tigger, u dont have to tell me ;-)

but I didnt take any ppl in GT since my IP doesnt even start with 84.153 ...

Of course other told you I invited the people since _all_ germans in this game hate me...

*kc*fidel is my brother who is in Berlin (600Miles away from my hometown) for over 1 week now so how should he be on dp?! and why should he take people into GT?!?!

You got any solid proove that I accepted the people or just some people like MoSez pretending to KNOW that it was me?!

I'm looking forward to the login system too (jit knows that :D ) since >>SmD<< Viper &Frozer &MoSez keep faking my name....

The most easy way to find out that it wasn't me who invited the people is looking at the IP's.

Theyre not dynamic, they are statistic IPs (I dont know if u use the same 2 words in america, anyways: STatistic IP tells you where the User connected witht hat IP comes from, dynamic dont do that!) 84.153 is umm I think CENTRAL Munich where I dont live.....

I think it was just another try of Meini etc. to get rid of me since he started posts on MeMi forum as soon as he read this topic...


*I didnt change my IP but can connect to GT what means: It wasnt me ;-)


Nice try MoSez !
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Post by: P!nk on April 16, 2006, 01:11:01 PM
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Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: MosEz on April 16, 2006, 01:18:51 PM
(http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/3218/sshot0882kc.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
 ok
At. 1st @pink u were in his clan right? ok (LOL)
2nd. Agent look at he sshot and be quiet ok? thx
3rd. In the past u did the same With DarKp and MeMi.. U faked their names and let ppl in it... so plz be quiet ok? thx
4.th. U said, ugh, like 5 months ago that ur brother have the Dawn syndrom and now he is kc whatever fidel.. so what is the truth?Liar...
5.th All Germans hate u cuz u r such an fake and fake names,clans ...

I never faked u cuz u r nothing....
Why would I? lmfao plz Shut the Fu**up and leave this communtiy thx
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: Playah on April 16, 2006, 01:22:42 PM
well agent, I told Mosez that you got banned from GT servers after i read this thread by sending him the link to this and he really didnt know. I recognized it by his feelings after he read that.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: Derrek on April 16, 2006, 01:34:56 PM
again...I found this impersonator on the ev1 servers.  I connected and asked him to remove the tag and threatened to have him banned from all servers.  he complied and then asked if he could join GT...I told him no.
I disconnected and 5 minutes later he changed his name back to [GT]Nick...then changed it to F***[GT]Derrek (explitive not fully shown).

Can everyone look at their logs, check and see if the IP has other names associated with it.  I also ask that we get this guy banned for what he is doing.

What would you do if he was impersonating your clan?


-Derrek
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: MosEz on April 16, 2006, 01:39:05 PM
About agent

<Derrek> can someone in germany drive out and slap this idiot?
<SkateR> ORLY?
<Derrek> maybe a digital slap would do :]

haha
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: MosEz on April 16, 2006, 01:39:52 PM
And GT Nick is now banned from MeMi Servers
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: AgentSmith on April 16, 2006, 01:57:33 PM
and Im not banned, 2nd proove Im not him...

Mosez, u said I faked MemI and Darkp.. omm lemme just say the TRUTH:

1. I was aMeMi trial member once, how should I let ppl in the clan then?

2. I know I had a DarkP tag but thisis I think OVER 2 YEARS AGO AND IT WAS A BAD IDEA THEN, and I didnt let any1 in the clan O_o (+ I had the tag 1 day and not anymore, sorry to any DarkP's reeding this .D)

LOOOL my bro has the dawn syndrom? cool I cant remember when I said that, but If I said it sorry for that lie O_O

enough for now...

(I found out that the faker was Viper, not you ;-) )
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: SkateR on April 16, 2006, 02:00:15 PM
Who cares? Whoever GT nick is, he is absolutely terrible. Him and that Mike kid. They are without a doubt worse than normal GT members, so its ok. We know they arent in GT.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: AgentSmith on April 16, 2006, 02:01:55 PM
but fact is that he seems to be faking me 2 (since derrek said he used my and my bro's name...)

he should get global ban...

(his IP got permanent ban on all 3 M&Mk servers...)
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Post by: P!nk on April 16, 2006, 02:04:34 PM
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Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: AgentSmith on April 16, 2006, 02:17:13 PM
edit: you beat me to the Global Ban thingy, Agent. Sad  <--- Agent doesn't understand that part :-(
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: Derrek on April 16, 2006, 03:08:41 PM
Just to clarify...Agent...I never ment to imply that it was you, I was simply relaying what I was told about previous names.

From what I can tell...this idiot only connected once under each name I listed, and has not been on the GT servers other then that.

P!nk, I defended because someone said something about it when I whined in the #pball chan.  I felt maybe I should explain a little.  Thanks for the support though.


-Derrek
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: BlaSTa on April 16, 2006, 03:09:25 PM
Seems Nick and Buritto is the same person:

      PlayerConnect   ˆTˆCÐÍ׈T‘ˆPõòßíáóôåòˆ9   Blue   12085.8   67.181.161.114:15441
      PlayerConnect   [e33t]dirtyburrito   Blue   10900.8   67.181.161.114:11174
      PlayerConnect   ˆµˆHeR33tˆµ‘ˆ`DˆÙiˆÇòˆ‡ôYˆØˆ9   Red   216.5   67.181.161.114:15154
      PlayerConnect   ˆCˆQÐÍ׈C‘ˆPãˆIìˆ÷ˆÈîˆ×ˆ9   Blue   898.9   67.181.161.114:13337
      PlayerConnect   ˆSˆCÐÍ׈T‘ˆ•õò߈Aíáóôåòˆ9   Blue   25468.2   67.181.161.114:9385
      PlayerConnect   [GT]Nick   Blue   1800.8   67.181.161.114:14061
      PlayerConnect   ˆSˆCÐÍ׈T‘ˆ•õò߈Aíáóôåòˆ9   Blue   1845.5   67.181.161.114:6523

I'm not gonna waste time converting the funnames.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: jitspoe on April 16, 2006, 03:53:08 PM
again...I found this impersonator on the ev1 servers.  I connected and asked him to remove the tag and threatened to have him banned from all servers.  he complied and then asked if he could join GT...I told him no.
I disconnected and 5 minutes later he changed his name back to [GT]Nick...then changed it to F***[GT]Derrek (explitive not fully shown).

Can everyone look at their logs, check and see if the IP has other names associated with it.  I also ask that we get this guy banned for what he is doing.

What would you do if he was impersonating your clan?


-Derrek
I'll check the logs when I get back.  Do you remember which server it was, specifically?

P!nk: I was going by the IP Derrek posted and the IP AgentSmith used in these forums.

I was planning to keep the GBL limited to the most serious offenses (cheating), but I might make an exception for that dirtyburrito guy simply because he's taken impersonation to an extreme.  It seems he's on at least once a day with that name.  I also haven't been able to match his IP to any known player.  It seems he's never been to these forums.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: Derrek on April 16, 2006, 05:11:24 PM
Not sure Jitspoe...it might have ben the hybrid.  Just look in the logs for me connecting and yelling at him.  Shouldn't be too hard to find.


-Derrek
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: WarWulf on April 16, 2006, 06:59:49 PM
heh impersonators! boy do i know all tooooo well about this subject. ive had people inpersonating me on this game for 7-8 years. mostly ganja (after my car accident ganja changed his name to unibonger  and clamed he was me and was joining all sort of clans, skater is also known for doing names like "uni<members of a socially disadvantaged class" befor and a few other people puttin uni onto their name. if any admins are interested and remember mustang`s server (crazyladys husband`s server) use to run a server for dp, and he was well aware of the problem i was having with these people. soo he hadded a code into the server script. where i had to type in a password to use any name that contained *UNI* in it, everyone else who used uni in their name were automaticly kicked from the server. this might be a good idea for [GT] to make some sort of block on their clans tags, or mabbe its about time someone made a auth system for peoples names on dp. i would realy realy love to see this done...

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: MosEz on April 16, 2006, 07:55:48 PM
Quote
What's funny is that you could compare this feud between Mosez and Agent to the one going on with Uni and DT.
woah pink...
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: SkateR on April 16, 2006, 09:30:11 PM
What? Ive never once impersonated someons name, so shut your fat sword swinging mexican ass up.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: Olbaid on April 16, 2006, 09:43:30 PM
so I can't play as Unifemale dog if i wanted.. Uni is trademarked?
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: Lunatic on April 16, 2006, 09:53:12 PM
so I can't play as Unibooger if i wanted.. Uni is trademarked?
You didn't know that?
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: GreenAffairz on April 16, 2006, 10:15:23 PM
lol
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: AgentSmith on April 17, 2006, 05:23:12 AM
Olbaid, that Uni "trademark" existed only on that one server ;-)


P!!!!nk I wanna be DT(casue hes the better map maker) in your compare... meini can be unibonger....
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: MosEz on April 17, 2006, 05:36:13 AM
and? I love my uni :) sk33t sk33t sk33t and do u feal good in DT ass?
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: AgentSmith on April 17, 2006, 05:52:15 AM
O_o

I just dislike uni's liner maps :D
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: b00nlander on April 17, 2006, 05:52:57 AM


P!nk: I was going by the IP Derrek posted and the IP AgentSmith used in these forums.



well, if thats the case, then it actually was AgentSmith on faking the nicks...  IPs don't lie ;) 
There have also been players pretending to be in MeMi, but all we can do is ban their IP / tban them from the servers, usually they come back with a new IP some days after..
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: Derrek on April 17, 2006, 08:37:29 AM
What? Ive never once impersonated someons name, so shut your fat sword swinging mexican ass up.

yes you have...straight from the logs:
[eR33t]   Observer   136.3   24.29.36.161:5199
SkateR   Red   575.1   24.29.36.161:5581

Now before you get in a hissy....I understand that is not a name, per se....but you did fake a clan tag.  You should think about things before you start posting insults.... espesially if you can be proven wrong.


Skater...I dont understand why you feel the need to fling instults at people as your first reaction.  It is akin to a caged monkey flinging poo.  Seriously....grow up.


-Derrek
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Post by: P!nk on April 17, 2006, 09:22:47 AM
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Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: jitspoe on April 17, 2006, 12:56:20 PM
EV1 Pub:
PIMP_STER connected [67.181.161.114:12438]
PIMP_STER connected [67.181.161.114:12036]
PIMP_STER connected [67.181.161.114:14379]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:8709]
[PWM]PiMpY connected [67.181.161.114:6668]
[PWM]PiMpY connected [67.181.161.114:12846]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:8709]
[PWM]PiMpY connected [67.181.161.114:13486]
[PWM]PiMpY connected [67.181.161.114:9722]
[PWM]PiMpY connected [67.181.161.114:10560]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:10121]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:10121]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:6955]
[PWM]PiMpY connected [67.181.161.114:12880]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:13137]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:12221]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:7701]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:9442]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:10744]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:15322]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:11007]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:11153]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:11202]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:12151]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:15356]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:8598]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:6941]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:15371]
[eR33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:13563]
[eR33t]DiRTY connected [67.181.161.114:9151]
[eR33t]DiRTY connected [67.181.161.114:10831]
[eR33t]DiRTY connected [67.181.161.114:8603]
[eR33t]DiRTY connected [67.181.161.114:12791]
[eR33t]DiRTY connected [67.181.161.114:7796]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:10252]
[eR33t]DiRTY connected [67.181.161.114:6650]
[PMW]CLOWN connected [67.181.161.114:9973]
[PMW]CLOWN connected [67.181.161.114:12472]
[PMW]CLOWN connected [67.181.161.114:14920]
[GT]Nick connected [67.181.161.114:7993]
[GT]Nick connected [67.181.161.114:5269]
[GT]Nick connected [67.181.161.114:7219]
[GT]Nick connected [67.181.161.114:14607]
)-MeMi-(CHUCKY connected [67.181.161.114:11774]
)-MeMi-(CHUCKY connected [67.181.161.114:9485]
)-MeMi-(ApplePie connected [67.181.161.114:8414]
)-MeMi-(ApplePie connected [67.181.161.114:6636]
)-MeMi-(ApplePie connected [67.181.161.114:14957]
)-MeMi-(ApplePie connected [67.181.161.114:13460]
)-MeMi-(ApplePie connected [67.181.161.114:15421]
)-MeMi-(ApplePie connected [67.181.161.114:10567]
)-MeMi-(ApplePie connected [67.181.161.114:6548]
)-MeMi-(ApplePie connected [67.181.161.114:8063]

EV1 Loial's:
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:13524]
[XX]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:11501]
PIMP_STER connected [67.181.161.114:9975]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:15441]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:9271]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:5444]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:13211]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:13211]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:6504]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:11139]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:11368]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:7257]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:14335]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:9063]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:15882]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:10709]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:13513]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:10163]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:15867]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:7517]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:5195]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:7591]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:5739]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:15268]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:11882]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:6957]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:7616]
[eR33t]DiRTY connected [67.181.161.114:5297]
[eR33t]DiRTY connected [67.181.161.114:11315]
[eR33t]DiRTY connected [67.181.161.114:1447]
[eR33t]DiRTY connected [67.181.161.114:5682]
[eR33t]DiRTY connected [67.181.161.114:5755]
[PMW]CLOWN connected [67.181.161.114:14914]
[PMW]CLOWN connected [67.181.161.114:10296]
[PMW]CLOWN connected [67.181.161.114:14737]
[PMW]CLOWN connected [67.181.161.114:6161]
[PMW]CLOWN connected [67.181.161.114:11036]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:5955]
[GT]Nick connected [67.181.161.114:7167]
[GT]Nick connected [67.181.161.114:12778]
[GT]Nick connected [67.181.161.114:11256]
[GT]Nick connected [67.181.161.114:11501]
[GT]Nick(1) connected [67.181.161.114:15890]
[GT]Nick connected [67.181.161.114:12314]
[GT]Nick connected [67.181.161.114:12058]
[GT]Nick connected [67.181.161.114:5444]
[GT]Nick connected [67.181.161.114:10531]
)-MeMi-(CHUCKY connected [67.181.161.114:11625]

EV1 Hybrid:
[PMW]PiMpY connected [67.181.161.114:12295]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:7182]
[e33t]taco connected [67.181.161.114:11185]
[e33t]dirtytaco connected [67.181.161.114:7540]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:8048]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:7296]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:5202]
[e33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:15839]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:14565]
[eR33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:9677]
[eR33t]dirtyburrito connected [67.181.161.114:7429]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:15430]
[eR33t]DiRTY connected [67.181.161.114:13645]
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:14862]
[GT]Nick connected [67.181.161.114:5774]
[GT]Nick connected [67.181.161.114:13309]
)-MeMi-(CHUCKY connected [67.181.161.114:6452]
)-MeMi-(ApplePie connected [67.181.161.114:6374]
)-MeMi-(ApplePie connected [67.181.161.114:11045]
)-MeMi-(ApplePie connected [67.181.161.114:12706]
)-MeMi-(ApplePie connected [67.181.161.114:5223]
)-MeMi-(ApplePie connected [67.181.161.114:12016]
)-MeMi-(ApplePie connected [67.181.161.114:8559]

Looks like this guy's been busy.  Not sure where you got the IP for the [GT]Nick guy, Derrek, but he's been the same as the dirtyburrito guy on the EV1 servers.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: SkateR on April 17, 2006, 01:00:35 PM
Thats just from when Ive watched them play in matches or demoed someone during their matches.
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Post by: Dirty_Taco on April 17, 2006, 03:04:55 PM
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Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: AgentSmith on April 17, 2006, 03:31:57 PM
Round about 3 or 4 millions of people should have an IP starting with 84.153 O_O (+ In Jitspoe's log he used Ip's starting with 67.... (what means he lives in the US, near washington!)

I believe P!nk that this just can't be only one person...

1. People in the area of 84.153 don't have such high pings on MeMi server

2. too many names faked : DT (that funname "[er33t] Dirty") , A GT tag was faked, I got faked, my bro (fidel) got faked etc.

I dont think one person could fake all these people..

admins should look into their logs how many, and WHAT different IP's were used by following names: [eR33t]Dirty (funname); [e33t]dirtyburrito ; [GT]Nick
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: Matze on April 17, 2006, 03:40:16 PM


but I didnt take any ppl in GT since my IP doesnt even start with 84.153 ...
/
Round about 3 or 4 millions of people should have an IP starting with 84.153


sigh...So your IP does start with those numbers ?

Im sure Jits wont say those two IPs were the same when it were just 5 numbers of it, since he knows most of the germans do have static IPs.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: KnacK on April 17, 2006, 04:02:18 PM
In the logs that Jitspoe posted:

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IP Address: 67.181.161.114
 
This is the resolution of the ip address:
c-67-181-161-114.hsd1.ca.comcast.net
Since that is not a proxy server, ALL ofthose logins are from the same location/home/router.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: AgentSmith on April 17, 2006, 04:06:42 PM
and since it is an IP from the US, it possibly CAN'T be me...

but knack, how u found out that it's not a proxy ?
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: KnacK on April 17, 2006, 04:14:51 PM
Let me refine my statement:

*IF* it belonged to a web host or soemthign like that, the web host could be used as a proxy forwarding service ( unlikely) .

SInce the IP is owned by Comcast and it is a residentially issued IP address, more than likey it is coming from a house.  Unless.... someone has figured out a way to do a Q2 proxy via someones house.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: TinMan on April 17, 2006, 04:27:40 PM
That probably is their home IP, setting up a proxy isn't hard at all, but Comcast has really bad upload, so they would lag like hell if they were using it as a proxy. So who plays dpball in California? Check your logs.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: AgentSmith on April 17, 2006, 04:32:11 PM
lol 4thX used to live in california but I dont think he is a namefaker....

jitspoe, I have a question to the global ban system:

If you'd ban me, couldnt I just change IP and come back?!
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: jitspoe on April 17, 2006, 04:35:16 PM
Currently, but I'm going to try to add some kind of hardware bans in the future.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: Derrek on April 17, 2006, 04:49:04 PM
Jits,  I guess I was given the wrong IP.  I asked someone in memi irc chan if they had ops, and ComaBull said he did.  Since he was not sure how to get the IP, I gave him the command (listip <username>) and he told me the IP that he found.  Since you have access to the direct logs, I would believe you are correct.

AgentSmith....sorry if I tarnished your good name, sir, I was merely posting with the information I had.  I removed the ban on the IP given to me, so if that was yours, you should be able to access GT servers again.

DT, thx for the clarification on Skaters use of the er33t tag.  Skater...sorry for the false accusation.


It does look like this poser was only one person.  Originally Dirty Burrito. (or Ur_Master, or  Pimp_Ster)  He must have started using the GT tag because I called him out when he started using the e33t (and then er33t) tag.

It would be wise to cut this guy out of the game since he is obviously not going to stop this kind of activity.  iptables works great for bans, as the person would never see the server again.  PM me if you need help with iptables.

Jits, did you search for that IP on the forums?  I doubt that he is using the forums as he has not kept a consistent name in the game.


Thanks everyone for your support in this issue.  Continued diligence is the only way to weed out the abusers in this game.


-Derrek
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: TinMan on April 17, 2006, 04:54:21 PM
MAC address? Just remember that MAC addresses are spoofable, very easy to spoof in Linux at least.
Does b16 have an option to "perma-ban", or only "tban"? I want to be able to perma-ban, yet still have them able to view my site for information on how to be unbanned.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: jitspoe on April 17, 2006, 05:07:27 PM
I searched for the IP on the forums and found no matches.  I also added it to the GBL, at least for a few days.  Perhaps that will wake him up.

For perm bans:
sv addip <ip address>
sv writeip

As for what method of hardware bans I will use, I don't know yet.  Anything is spoofable, but that doesn't mean we can't make it really difficult to get off of the ban list.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: KnacK on April 17, 2006, 05:14:50 PM
for all of the nix servers, have the GBL interface with iptables......

THAT would be slick.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: AgentSmith on April 17, 2006, 05:39:50 PM
Puh, I'm glad that I'm not seen as a "guilty" person here,
since meini told me over ICQ I would be banned and started a little party over DP, (I couldnt read that thread cause dpball.com seemed to be down then) so I was a bit afraid of what would be in here...

Derrek, I have OPS on Freud servers, if there is maybe a guy called "newbie" , I just have to type listip newbie to get his ip, right? but what if he uses a funname????

sorry If I tarnished your good name

For the germans, I never had a "good name" so no matter man, wasn't your fault!
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: jitspoe on April 17, 2006, 06:05:26 PM
I think the "listuserip" command lists the ip's of all the players.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: AgentSmith on April 17, 2006, 06:11:15 PM
ah that works, thx alot jit!

why do all the players use different ports?!
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: jitspoe on April 17, 2006, 07:24:07 PM
The ports are randomized to prevent attacks.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: Derrek on April 18, 2006, 01:18:56 AM
for all of the nix servers, have the GBL interface with iptables......

THAT would be slick.


No...ick...Dont do that!!!  I would never upgrade to a server that has that much control.  a simple IP spoof with the right ip address could potentially lock all addresses from accessing the server completely.  In essence, it would make the box un-networked.  That just scares the crap out of me.  besides, the pball server would have to run as root to be able to do anything with iptables (except maybe a list).  Besides, windows servers don't use iptables.



-Derrek
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: AgentSmith on April 18, 2006, 06:34:19 AM
Whew thats the part where I should stop reading since I dont understand what iptables are :D
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: KnacK on April 18, 2006, 09:14:23 AM
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No...ick...Dont do that!!!  ...

We actually have a small script that does that on a forum I am a moderator on.  80k + members and the problem members, when we ban their ip address, the web server and forums just disappear.

It works great, but took a lot of testing.

You do have a great idea though... maybe a page redirect....

hmm....
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: XtremeBain on April 18, 2006, 09:05:57 PM
[PMW]UR_MASTER connected [67.181.161.114:6584]
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: loial21 on April 20, 2006, 12:50:32 AM
bain awah? :) ban him/her ?
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: ruddy on April 22, 2006, 08:11:09 AM
hello. today at 13:02pm my time(GMT) i found a player under the name " [eR33t] Jesus". due to it being so early for a fellow er33t player (EST) to be playing i went to the server and was sure to find the player having a 150-170 ping. this stuck me because being the only european player from er33t i asked who he was. he said jesus and that a friend let him in the clan. this i laughed at and i have a demo showing all of this. pls help us crack down on this "impersonating" etc. it is so frustrating. many thnx and to any server admins pls ban this s.o.b. ( i had a demo but can't upload...?)
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: ruddy on April 22, 2006, 08:12:59 AM
to add to this he clearly had no knowledge of fellow members etc and was clearly a terrible player with negative scores on all maps i followed him on. i didn know how to get his ip also to add injury to insult.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: ruddy on April 22, 2006, 08:17:16 AM
i really should remember to add everything but the server he was on was [aB] ApoBoc Clan Server (Public) [aB]|207ms|69.93.11.66:27920. hope you can check logs and ban that bastard. :D
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: Derrek on April 22, 2006, 01:45:46 PM
I looked into the logs, and looks like this person was 'slayer'  he has been playing lightly for a few months.

Ruddy,  Im not sure a ban is in order here.  Seeing as he said someone invited him into the clan...and that is what that 'dirtyburrito' was doing (inviting people into er33t)....I think this guy needs a firm warning from someone in er33t (may be someone that is well known).  If they guy refuses to remove the tag...or continues to use it later, then a ban may be in order.
I just don't think he is intentionally doing ill will...I just think he got duped and isn't informed to that.


-Derrek
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: XtremeBain on April 22, 2006, 02:41:55 PM
I'm pretty sure assassin ninjas have already payed 'slayer' a visit. ::)
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: [b]east on April 24, 2006, 09:10:29 AM
i saw this guy 2 and can proof that someone let him in cuz i saw a guy :[eR33t]Spilie(or something like that)who let him in.so that´s not his bad because he tought a real er33t member let him in.
Title: _
Post by: P!nk on April 24, 2006, 09:27:07 AM
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Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: [b]east on April 24, 2006, 10:16:10 AM
i think it was one of the gt servers(i told him that he have to put this tag off cuz  it wasnt a er33t member but he didnt :P)
Title: _
Post by: P!nk on April 25, 2006, 12:14:12 AM
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Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: loial21 on April 25, 2006, 12:25:10 AM
Is thier an Evil Duck in =IoD= ?
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: AgentSmith on April 25, 2006, 03:01:08 PM
P!nk, this dirtyburrito didnt have [err3t], he had the tag: [e33t]
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: Playah on April 26, 2006, 04:35:14 AM
He had a few, including both i'd say.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: [b]east on April 26, 2006, 08:11:54 AM
saw a few days ago [e33t]dirytburrito and maybe his "fake friend" [e33t]Glitz
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: loial21 on April 26, 2006, 09:24:36 PM
Will someone anwser my questions. :(
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: Playah on April 27, 2006, 02:23:48 PM
Im pretty sure theres nobody active on this forum of iod, so none can tell you if its a member changing his nick for fun. You should go and ask him personally.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: TinMan on April 27, 2006, 05:32:40 PM
I was in a server with him, he was asked if he was really iod, he said he was, and then Skater said he'd ask the iod leader...whoever that is.
I'v got a demo if its needed.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: loial21 on April 27, 2006, 09:13:33 PM
eii have you heard of him? Upsoon said he did not mind as iod is not active. But i dont like it personally. For example...

Ganja[Smurf] Its offensive, to me.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: Lunatic on April 27, 2006, 10:34:38 PM
What the intercourse?
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: loial21 on April 27, 2006, 11:55:24 PM
That what i said when i saw an 'evil-duck' in IOD.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: lekky on April 28, 2006, 10:47:41 AM
he's a noobie player, so i very much doubt he is in that clan.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: Smokey on April 28, 2006, 08:16:58 PM
Some kid with the name Smokey.. i asked him to change it so he then changed it to
Code: [Select]
[i]Smokey
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: loial21 on May 05, 2006, 07:37:10 PM
Screen shots would be nice. Not helpful, but nice. Then inform the admin via forums.
Title: Re: Impersonators
Post by: supertanker on May 21, 2006, 01:23:12 AM
A global login is a good idea and would REALLY help

For example, there is another GNU GPL game out there c alled BZFlag. At first it was so tiny (roughly the same stage PB is in right now) that cheating/impersonating was no big problem.

About 6 months ago, the game started getting REALLY popular for online play. Cheaters inevitably followed. So, the bright developers came up with a global login system. It uses a PHP file and the forum user database to log you in. You use your username and password you use to log in at the forum and it authenticates you. Since it is unlikely for anyone else to know your password, it is semi-foolproof

I think it is also tied into the forum group system, so PRESTO dynamic groups/permessions...

It would probably take a good deal of work...BUT the list server is open source, and released on the sourceforge CVS. Look in the project BZflag and the cvs module 'db'

Just my 2 cents...