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Development => Mapping => Map Graveyard => Topic started by: prozajik on November 19, 2011, 05:18:23 AM

Title: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 4)
Post by: prozajik on November 19, 2011, 05:18:23 AM
So i finally found some time to finish my another map.
Name: Don't make it a provar
Progress: Beta 4
Flags: 2 flags for each side (frist flag(with cap) 5points, second flag 6points)
Teams: Blue + Red
Cap:On the first flag
Mode:Probably 3s needs some testing
Images:
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1618/paintball22011111911084.jpg)
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3659/paintball22011111911085.jpg)
(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/9844/paintball22011111911091.jpg)
(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6683/paintball22011111911083.jpg)
(http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/1317/paintball22011111911081.jpg)

Download:
Megaupload.com
Beta 1
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2OJZXOQE
Beta 2
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F66CZUCC
Beta 3
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HHGV26XH
Beta 4
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8ONW8H50

Attachement
Beta 1
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23915.0;attach=8902
Beta 2
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23915.0;attach=8903
Beta 3
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23915.0;attach=8908
Beta 4
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23915.0;attach=8910

Comment & enjoy
PS: Just to explain, provar is a czech word which means to lose a 100% chance ;)
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 1)
Post by: bLiNdThInG on November 19, 2011, 01:42:34 PM
Nice map, good job :) It's quite a large map so i'd say 3s or more, probably bit too big for 2s. Nice variety of jumps etc and nice lighting on low, although it's maybe a little crowded low route, perhaps too many boxes etc, but overall nice map.
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 1)
Post by: prozajik on November 19, 2011, 09:39:49 PM
Thanks, glad you like it. I guess you are right i will try to have a look on low.
Also Selda already suggested me some updates so i will be releasing b2 soon, I hope.
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 1)
Post by: Chef-Killer on November 20, 2011, 07:13:20 AM
Map looks good. I really like the VIS blocking structure of it :D

Some stuff for the next betas...

Use "gamemode" "4" instead of "gametype" "4" to fix the warning while loading the map ingame.

Maybe you could add 1 or 2 more player spawns for each team, to make the spawns less predictable.

Btw. I'm not sure if low is a little bit too crowded, because it seems that this route is the shortest and fastest route from flag to flag. I think that should be tested ingame with a few players.

And screenshots :)

(http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2799.jpg) (http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2798.jpg)
Red: Rotate texture.

(http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2801.jpg) (http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2800.jpg)
Red: Small edges, it's below the main flag.

(http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2803.jpg) (http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2802.jpg)
Red: This brush is a little bit too wide at the front

(http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2805.jpg) (http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2804.jpg)
Blue: I'd add clip brushes here.

(http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2807.jpg) (http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2806.jpg)
Red: The texture rotation is looking a little bit weird here. There're some more passages where the texture rotation is looking weird a little bit.

(http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2809.jpg) (http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2808.jpg)
Blue: You need to move this red barrel down a little bit.
Green: I think it would be cool if players could go there. It's a little bit too small at the moment.

(http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2811.jpg) (http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2810.jpg)
Red: This plank is almost flying :) Maybe you can change the plateau a little bit.

(http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2813.jpg) (http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2812.jpg)
Red: Rotate texture.

(http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2815.jpg) (http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2814.jpg)
Green: I'd like to see clip brushes here, too.

(http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2817.jpg) (http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2816.jpg)
Green: One more clip brush.
Red: I'd make the wood brush less thick here, that there're no edges at the endings.

(http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2819.jpg) (http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2818.jpg)
Green: Misaligned texture.

Map is online @ [OTB] Beta!
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 2)
Post by: prozajik on November 21, 2011, 08:24:28 AM
Don't make it a provar - Beta 2
Fixes:
-Everything chef pointed out
-Added speed jump on mid (by selda)

To fix:
-I kept low be as it is, waiting for ideas :)

Download
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F66CZUCC
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 1)
Post by: S8NSSON on November 21, 2011, 11:56:42 AM
The walls look to all be the same height.
Are the floor all flat also?
All the walls, except the slanted holes in the walls, look like they are just straight up and down...no angularity to them.

Just thoughts from looking at the screens.
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 1)
Post by: prozajik on November 21, 2011, 02:26:38 PM
Yes the walls are all same height, if I made different height it would be pretty difficult to make sky there right. Also the walls are straight up and down (I might be improving this, but its a lot of work and I dont have that much time now)
I make non-flat floor only where it is necesary. I dont like maps like pbcup_sassault, because of loosing control on this type of terrain (this might change thanks to new update).
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 1)
Post by: MarawaNa on November 22, 2011, 03:03:35 PM
Map looks pretty cool, although a came across a couple of things just by looking at the screenshot

Red circles = in the Red Base there are Red barrels, but in the Blue Base there aren't any at this exact spot, should be mirror'd or theres disadvantages.

Yellow lines = The outline of the shaded area at the middle of the map, showing that the Red side of mid has more of an advantage of being unseen. Again its not really fair.

- MarawaNa
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 1)
Post by: Spook on November 23, 2011, 12:43:06 AM
The name sucks, looks alright though.
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 1)
Post by: prozajik on November 23, 2011, 06:00:18 AM
Map looks pretty cool, although a came across a couple of things just by looking at the screenshot

Red circles = in the Red Base there are Red barrels, but in the Blue Base there aren't any at this exact spot, should be mirror'd or theres disadvantages.

Yellow lines = The outline of the shaded area at the middle of the map, showing that the Red side of mid has more of an advantage of being unseen. Again its not really fair.

- MarawaNa
Good points, I will fix it for next beta

Edit:Just checked it again, man there are no barrels there :D. Its just paint problem. The first red circle from the left hand side is just red brush under flag, and the second from left hand side is just a paint bug caused by dark colors i guess. But good point about that yellow border thing.
The name sucks, looks alright though.
Agree, not satisfied with its name neither but its not the worst I hope. Couldnt come up with anything smart, but wanted to already release the map. Thanks tho ;)
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 1)
Post by: Aveiro on November 24, 2011, 03:16:08 PM
Looks like good map. <3, but i wont install PB for try this map..
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 1)
Post by: Rockyar_96 on November 25, 2011, 09:10:25 AM
your problem.
the map looks really good,
but i haven“t got the time for a real feedback. Maybe later :)
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 1)
Post by: Malware on November 26, 2011, 02:29:27 PM
Nice map, good job !
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 1)
Post by: prozajik on November 26, 2011, 08:49:00 PM
Thanks all, glad you like it :)
I hope i will have some time soon to release b3.
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 1)
Post by: LaikeABawss(idias) on November 27, 2011, 09:25:53 AM
Thanks all, glad you like it :)
I hope i will have some time soon to release b3.
Looks pretty good proza ;)
Hope this map actually gets played in the match scene
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 1)
Post by: UnRateD on November 27, 2011, 04:58:53 PM
Looks good! good job prozaj
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 1)
Post by: UnRateD on November 27, 2011, 05:15:34 PM
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Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 1)
Post by: Tupac(Chalk) on November 27, 2011, 11:21:34 PM
this map really good

but there are some things that you could

fix just look at wut mara post

hurry up and make it right

this map will be played the most

yo i think yo map is pretty tight
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 3)
Post by: prozajik on November 28, 2011, 08:24:03 AM
Don't make it a provar - Beta 3
Fixes:
-changed lighting a bit so now it doesnt provide other team advantage (at least I hope :P)
-aligned 1 more texture
-added few details to mid roof

To fix:
-Low - so I am probably keeping it as it is?

Download
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HHGV26XH

Again, thanks all for your comments
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 3)
Post by: Chef-Killer on November 29, 2011, 12:18:44 PM
Now you have "gamemode" "4" and "gametype" "4", so the bad field warning still appears while loading the map ingame. Deleting the wrong key/value pair should fix it.

One more thing I didn't notice before are the barrels. They have a diameter of more than 48 units. It looks that the top and bottom textures are a little bit too small for these barrels. You might scale up the top and bottom textures a bit or use a diameter of 48 units for them.

(http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2825.jpg) (http://www.otb-server.de/wbblite/attachments/2824.jpg)
Green: This brush is a little bit too small.

Beta 2 and Beta 3 is online @ [OTB] Beta!
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 4)
Post by: prozajik on December 01, 2011, 11:12:46 AM
Don't make it a provar - Beta 4
Fixes:
-fixed chef's things :P

To fix:
-Low - so I am probably keeping it as it is?

Download
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8ONW8H50

Again, thanks all for your comments
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 4)
Post by: Aveiro on May 01, 2012, 07:18:45 AM
beta 5 inc? i love this map :D
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 4)
Post by: jitspoe on May 02, 2012, 03:20:41 AM
Very nice map.  A couple things bug me, though:  The barrels are all too wide and do not align properly with the barrel top texture.  The ladder in the base is very large and goofy looking.  It takes away from the visual quality, I think.  I think it would actually be better without it.  There's plenty of room to just build a ramp right up to the flag, and it would make it a lot less awkward to navigate as well.  Most likely the people trying to get the flag from that angle (instead of t he other jumps available) will be new players, so they'll need all the help they can get. :)   I'd say just convert that section of the base into a large hill that leads right up to the flag.

Map is up in rotation on the beta map server.  PM me if you need the login.
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 4)
Post by: prozajik on May 02, 2012, 05:46:52 PM
Very nice map.  A couple things bug me, though:  The barrels are all too wide and do not align properly with the barrel top texture....
Thanks for the feedback. I will make sure to fix these things, tho i dont have much time for mapping atm. Also i dont have any decent ideas how to improve this map :/ so any suggestions are welcome.


PS: Pls tell me whats the default value for barrel width and also number of sides, i have been working with this one since i have started maping and in every map somebody points it out :P
Title: Re: Newmap : Don't make it a provar (Beta 4)
Post by: Chef-Killer on May 03, 2012, 07:18:34 AM
These values should work fine...
height 64 units
diameter 48 units
radius 24 units
sides 8