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Digital Paint Community => Other Stuff => Topic started by: MyeRs on November 28, 2012, 06:23:47 PM
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Hello,
DR34M Shockwave has made it into the top 5 plays of the week for the most active game at the moment.
#3 ----- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uri1OwvXjZI&feature=g-u
164,095 views.
League players will appreciate the play.
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Agreed, Dr34m team op :)))
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it's whimsicle.
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^isnt that the guy youre always talking about shk?
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it was a mediocre at best . i don't really submit my plays because i tend to get a lot of hackusations whenever i'm jungling and i get penta/legendary kills and what not.
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lmfaoooooo chalk so good
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So he got in top 5 by failing to get a kill, avoiding getting killed, and his team mates gets the kill for him? I think that ziggs kill at #5 was a much better play. Congrats to him though. Man this guys voice is frigging annoying. He needs to learn to slow video, add some playback, so he doesn't have to try to talk so fast.
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dude, that was a really good play, 3 close escapes with the impulse karth ulti negation? come ooon leave personal feelings behind and appreciate this.
also, rick
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^ i think purgaltoryexcrement is mad/ j3lly ;D
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dude, that was a really good play, 3 close escapes with the impulse karth ulti negation? come ooon leave personal feelings behind and appreciate this.
also, rick
That had nothing to do with personal feelings. I've pulled off a 5v1 with Rengar escaping like crazy until team showed up for cleanup to an ace. I didn't say it was bad, I just said I was more impressed with the Ziggs play. I even said grats.
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Just watched the vid, only good thing was his stun to stop karth ult saving himself. That lee sin, karthus, and singed shoulda had him. Obviously playing in just a random solo queue, which explains why those three were bad.
I have to agree that the ziggs surviving, getting the kill, and escaping with an impossible jump was better.
On a side note, there's got to be as many top play count downs for that game, proportionally equal to the player base in that game; In other words, anyone can make a count down. It's not like this was produced by riot, a player bracket or a ladder of any kind. You just managed to submit one... we don't even know how many times you've tried to submit or how many different count downs you have submitted to.. however, you got one accepted. Also, take into account the average person who's moderately good at that game doesn't record their demos nor submit them. For all you know you were chosen out of 6 videos he received.
You didn't think I wouldn't defecate on your parade did you?
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lol that entire escape was clutch. It doesnt matter how many hes submitted, which as far as im aware is just one, the play was still really good on its own merit.
Also, if lots of people submit lots of plays, and his made #3, surely that means the play is really good. And when you have LoL recorder, as a lot of people do including myself, everything auto records. So effort isnt required in capturing gameplay from previous matches.
Also, hes rather high elo, which is further credit to his play since the players in that bracket are regarded as top 12% in the game. For those that say elo doesnt matter, it does usually.
On a side note, the fact that the lee sin, karthus and singed should have had him, yet he still managed to escape just shows the play was well thought out.
All in all, i love you fox/cam, but your points are invalid, the play was IMO as good as the ziggs play. And saying tihngs like 'I once ladeeda..' is a moot point, its like telling someone who climbs K2 that its not impressive since people have climbed everest. No, its still impressive in its own regard.
Thank you, good day.
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All I'm saying is, if karthus could land his q and his slow wall, singed... do anything... he woulda died. Also, if karthus wasnt a kitty when he turret dived, he woulda had him as well; Karth was going to die, he shoulda just finished shk off.
All I saw was jax jump to lee sin and then run for his life. how is that a good get away, he was just faster and karthus couldn't hit him with his q OR his slow, and for some reason the singed wasn;t doing jackexcrement... it wasn't as spectacular as ziggs getting blown over a wall, or that lee sin who used wards to escape for like 5 minutes. All he did was run. And like I said, only good thing he did which deserved recognition was saving himself and probably his team mates by stopping karth ult.
I also didn't see anyone on the comments saying anything about that play, NOTHING, I went 13 pages deep untill i saw, jax is awesome... not saying his play, just saying the champ. Someone else said that the Kathrus sucked. All I saw was some people said in general that the play in the vid except the pentakill was not spectacular.
I'm not saying I'm better, I'm not denying he can carry a game by himself. I'm stating there wasn't anything in that video that was "whimsical". You can also move his to 4th, there is no way you can say the "bonus" vid was worse than shk's video.
I know you're all friends, but hop off each others penises for once.
Again, you can't expect me not to defecate on your parade.
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I'm one of the best duelers in the warsow community. All you other people are just pansy nigz.
What's dr4amt33mz teamspeak by the way? OP?
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The combination of counter strike (e), leap strike (q), ghost to get the MS needed to evade, evasion of defile (karth e), juking to dodge skillshots, and having the initiative to stop karth ult was really good. Dont just take it at face, think about what happened.
Also, I just went on and theres 5 comments on the first 2 pages saying jax played well etc.
Im clearly friends with you both, but youre making bad points to try and put down a good play. Also, the whimsical joke is related to my new super spectacular facebook PP, its not actually about the video.
The finer points in his replay are what make it good. (capo, inboxed you)
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He's 2k elo which I believe is top 8% of the game actually, and it was meant for the escape - there's more too it than people see, but there's no reason to argue the details. You see what you want, and judge it by that. Whether you see it as great or not, doesn't mean anything. That's your opinion which is fine. Just like Leesin's great escape videos - it doesn't look like much, but it's the fine details you don't notice from the youtube video. You understand the play like a typical normals player (not trying to insult) - and don't see the detail in it.
I mean, I agree it's not the most amazing play I've ever seen. But it deserved a top 5. I don't agree that the ziggs one was better, but previous weeks had some way better plays. But for getting top 5 in a huge game is still pretty impressive. Only reason I posted it. Didn't think people would go outta their way to try to "defecate on our parade" - instead of congratulating someone for a job well done. We just thought it was cool and shared it. Shockwave hasn't even seen that we posted it.
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also, rick
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I guess it must be different when you're actually playing the game. I still haven't gotten around to trying it. From watching the videos, it just looks like a bunch of tiny cartoon toys awkwardly waddling and glitching around with excessive particle effects.
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I actually like shks gameplay in that video. But that guy does speak way too fast. He can't even keep up, stumbling over words and excrement lol.
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I guess it must be different when you're actually playing the game. I still haven't gotten around to trying it. From watching the videos, it just looks like a bunch of tiny cartoon toys awkwardly waddling and glitching around with excessive particle effects.
off topic, admin plz remove thanx
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I guess it must be different when you're actually playing the game. I still haven't gotten around to trying it. From watching the videos, it just looks like a bunch of tiny cartoon toys awkwardly waddling and glitching around with excessive particle effects.
off topic please remove thanks, if u are here to troll then everything/everywhere else but league of legends posts and forums is the place to do so. Every1 can u guys report this to the admin by clicking "report to moderator" this is a insult to all the LoL players (indirectly) i and most the players who play LoL feel offended by this post. If u really wanna go that far, LoL is the top game in the world ever since that Tourney for $2 million, if u have nothing help full and useful to post then once again dp forums is the place to do it but not league of legends posts and topics. Thank you i hope u can compile with what i have just said admins. Btw nice play i like it :] The one and only DR34M TEAM is Da BeST!
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^Learn the English language, then try trolling...
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nerdz
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The combination of counter strike (e), leap strike (q), ghost to get the MS needed to evade, evasion of defile (karth e), juking to dodge skillshots, and having the initiative to stop karth ult was really good. Dont just take it at face, think about what happened.
Also, I just went on and theres 5 comments on the first 2 pages saying jax played well etc.
Im clearly friends with you both, but youre making bad points to try and put down a good play. Also, the whimsical joke is related to my new super spectacular facebook PP, its not actually about the video.
The finer points in his replay are what make it good. (capo, inboxed you)
I don't really agree with how they do elo/rankings. I haven't looked at top 5 ranked teams in a long time, but the last time that I did there was a team that only lost once, but they were ranked lower than a team with a losing ratio just because the team with the losing ratio played more games.
You're taking too much offense to fox's and my comments, perhaps because you have him on such a high pedestal. I think it was a good play, but I was just saying I was more impressed by one of the other ones. I'm not "defecating" on anyone's parade. I even told shk congrats and that I couldn't have pulled it off myself, I suck with escapes. I get hit by something as Nocturne and then activate my spellshield after like a stupid donkey.
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He didn't make a spectacular escape, the enemy team failed to kill him 2v1, 3v1, and then he clicked his mouse towards the base... The only finer point.. again, is that he stopped karth ult. oh wawow and since shk didnt die it was 2 for 0!!! big deal.
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He didn't make a spectacular escape, the enemy team failed to kill him 2v1, 3v1, and then he clicked his mouse towards the base... The only finer point.. again, is that he stopped karth ult. oh wawow and since shk didnt die it was 2 for 0!!! big deal.
almost all of the top 5 plays are when they other team fails to do something with 1v2, 1v3, etc. and most of people wouldn't think to stun to stop karth's ult.
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lol, reading foxhound's post make me laugh. It's not anything to do with you posting it, it's just exactly how I thought about league plays before I started / when I was new. So I understand your points, it's just you're not knowledgeable enough to know what you're saying at all.
And Gonass - the ranking ladder system is pretty relevant of skill. It's only based off W/L ratios - and combined soloq elo of the team matters for the placement matches (so 1200's aren't playing 1800's for the first games) etc... I mean, with this game it's the only really fair way to do ratings. You can't add in KDA, since an adc will likely have the highest in most games. Doesn't imply skill, implies a role. Also, more ranked games usually means lower elo - the first 5-10 games you gain a lot more elo than 20+ games. Everyone ends up in the rating they deserve.
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his play meant the team failed to kil him 2v1, 3v1, not the enemies misplay (atleast not solely). and its not just about clicking a mouse, its about awareness of other peoples skills, cds, etc.
nothing to do with any pedestal, just dont appreciate parade defecation when theres nonpoints being made.
also, rick
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Yeah what Haider said.
also, rick
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also, rick
also, rick
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can someone describe what made the play so good in great detail, since i seem to be missing the point.
also, his real name is bob.
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lol, reading foxhound's post make me laugh. It's not anything to do with you posting it, it's just exactly how I thought about league plays before I started / when I was new. So I understand your points, it's just you're not knowledgeable enough to know what you're saying at all.
And Gonass - the ranking ladder system is pretty relevant of skill. It's only based off W/L ratios - and combined soloq elo of the team matters for the placement matches (so 1200's aren't playing 1800's for the first games) etc... I mean, with this game it's the only really fair way to do ratings. You can't add in KDA, since an adc will likely have the highest in most games. Doesn't imply skill, implies a role. Also, more ranked games usually means lower elo - the first 5-10 games you gain a lot more elo than 20+ games. Everyone ends up in the rating they deserve.
You're wrong about the ranking system unless they changed it. I didn't say it was based off of KDA. It's based off of how many games you play (first) and your W/L (second.) For instance, last season there was a team that played 3000 games. Their W/L was slightly negative, as in they lost a few more than they won. There was another team that only played 500 games, but only lost 1 game. The team that was 500-1 was ranked lower than the team that played 3000. Their W/L ratio was higher, but they didn't play as many games. It may be different this season, but the last time I checked last season, which is prob 4-5 months ago, that's how it was. I never mentioned KDA ratios, so I don't know how you got that idea.
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I mentioned KDA's because I was suggesting possible alternative methods to the ranking system. I wasn't sure exactly what about the ranking system you thought was bad. But it hasn't changed. So, you've just got it mistaken, you must have read it wrong.
I know for a fact it's been the same for all of season2 as it is currently for season3. I've also played in many ranked games / teams to see how it works. A 500-1 team (which doesn't exist) would be ranked far higher than a team that is around 1500-1500. Pretty sure the top rated team last season was something like 44-1 in ranked5s. 500-1 would be over 4k elo, and I believe the highest ranked5s team was under 2k elo last season. So your numbers are way off. But elo is an accurate representation of skill. That's why the way the ranking system works is good. It's all W/L based.
The way it works, is ealier games mean more to your elo than later games - but regardless a loss and a win remove/add the same amount of elo to your rank. So, seeing as the typical player/team starts at 1250 elo, it subtracts/add to that. The number gained/lost decreases the more games you played. I believe at the start you gain/lose around 50, and after 50ish games you start only changing 10 elo per win/loss.
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it goes from 40-50 for your first 10 games down to 30-40, 20-30, 10-20 then eventually around 10 until around the 50th game, its a steady decrease.
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why the eff are we talking about LoL on DIGITAL PAINTBALL? does lol not have fourms you jewbies
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why the eff are we talking about LoL on DIGITAL PAINTBALL? does lol not have fourms you jewbies
It's in the "other section". And because We're apart of Dp. We're a multi-gaming organization. We get paid based off of things like this. Not necessarily, hourly. Although, when we go to tournaments and play in tournaments, we get our funds, that way too.
DR34M-TEAM. intercourse YO LIFE. intercourseIN cigaretteZ
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why the eff are we talking about LoL on DIGITAL PAINTBALL? does lol not have fourms you jewbies
CuZ we can
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I mentioned KDA's because I was suggesting possible alternative methods to the ranking system. I wasn't sure exactly what about the ranking system you thought was bad. But it hasn't changed. So, you've just got it mistaken, you must have read it wrong.
I know for a fact it's been the same for all of season2 as it is currently for season3. I've also played in many ranked games / teams to see how it works. A 500-1 team (which doesn't exist) would be ranked far higher than a team that is around 1500-1500. Pretty sure the top rated team last season was something like 44-1 in ranked5s. 500-1 would be over 4k elo, and I believe the highest ranked5s team was under 2k elo last season. So your numbers are way off. But elo is an accurate representation of skill. That's why the way the ranking system works is good. It's all W/L based.
The way it works, is ealier games mean more to your elo than later games - but regardless a loss and a win remove/add the same amount of elo to your rank. So, seeing as the typical player/team starts at 1250 elo, it subtracts/add to that. The number gained/lost decreases the more games you played. I believe at the start you gain/lose around 50, and after 50ish games you start only changing 10 elo per win/loss.
It did at one point. Scores are reset because its season 3. Look at this. http://competitive.na.leagueoflegends.com/ladders
Theres a team thats 10-0 ranked lower than a 10-2 and another 10-0 above the 10-2. How is that solely based off of W/L ratios?
Look at this.
http://competitive.na.leagueoflegends.com/ladders/na/current/ranked_team_5x5
There's an 11-2 ranked lower than an 11-5.
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No there was never a 500-1 team ever. Just getting that out of the way.
Secondly, (I swear I already mentioned this) but when you start ranked you start around your teams combined solo queue elo. (Ie, if my teams around 1200 elo, my first 0-0 game wont be against a 2000 average elo team) -- So, if I go 5-0, and a 2000 elo team goes 5-0, we wont be together - they'll likely be around 1700, while I'd be around 1400. Because you start around your teams solo queue elo, being a lower elo will take more wins to get a higher elo. But, after like 50 games, a team with significantly more wins will have a higher elo. Because win/loss determines your elo - you're just not starting at the same point, since starting point is based off the teams average solo queue elo. So it is a fair way of doing ratings, and gets people around their skill. If they deserve to be against better players, they'll win to the point that they play against their skill level. So, for Ranked5s it is 100% fair.
You could argue solo queue is unfair because of random teammates, but it's just as fair. If you look at it, a solo queue game, your team has YOU + 4 randoms, and the other team has 5 randoms. The odds are slightly in your favor, assuming you're a good player who can carry a game. There is a better chance 5 randoms has a troll than 4 randoms. Duo queue raises your chances even more. Ranked gets you to the rating you deserve. The rating system is good.
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Well said MyeRs, you sir are an exceptional writer.
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No there was never a 500-1 team ever. Just getting that out of the way.
Secondly, (I swear I already mentioned this) but when you start ranked you start around your teams combined solo queue elo. (Ie, if my teams around 1200 elo, my first 0-0 game wont be against a 2000 average elo team) -- So, if I go 5-0, and a 2000 elo team goes 5-0, we wont be together - they'll likely be around 1700, while I'd be around 1400. Because you start around your teams solo queue elo, being a lower elo will take more wins to get a higher elo. But, after like 50 games, a team with significantly more wins will have a higher elo. Because win/loss determines your elo - you're just not starting at the same point, since starting point is based off the teams average solo queue elo. So it is a fair way of doing ratings, and gets people around their skill. If they deserve to be against better players, they'll win to the point that they play against their skill level. So, for Ranked5s it is 100% fair.
You could argue solo queue is unfair because of random teammates, but it's just as fair. If you look at it, a solo queue game, your team has YOU + 4 randoms, and the other team has 5 randoms. The odds are slightly in your favor, assuming you're a good player who can carry a game. There is a better chance 5 randoms has a troll than 4 randoms. Duo queue raises your chances even more. Ranked gets you to the rating you deserve. The rating system is good.
cool story bro
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I guess that's the typical response when someone proves their point... You didn't understand the ranking system, so I explained it.
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dr34mteam.com for more info
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Just wanted to point out. Not sure why after you say its W/L based... but Unrated is 16-11 you're 14-15 and you have more elo.... Gotta admit, It's a weird system.
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^ You see my top rating and his current rating - I'm actually below him right now. It's just glitchy sometimes whether it shows someones current or top rating.
But, in regards to that it would be because you started this season based off your elo from last season.
Your S3 starting elo was: Your s2 top rating - 1250 /2 , + 1250 (or something like that) -- So I started this season around 1350 , while a new person to ranked started around 1250 - and someone like Chemical started around 1050. So it's still W/L based, it's just you may be higher due to your s2 ranking. They didn't want to do a hard reset, making every single player go back to 1250, so they did a soft one where you went down a bit. Hopefully I explained that clearly.
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(19-11) and youre seeing top ratings, i surpassed myers as expected because im his dad
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I'm 13-11 and 1784 elo.
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uh
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Myers, i sabotaged Unrated for you. even though it wasnt really my fault. Bad team mates.
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mother flucker