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Paintball 2: The Game => Paintball 2 Discussion => Topic started by: Neoterra on February 09, 2014, 12:18:31 PM
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first: Sry for my english.
I think i am not alone with my wish to get a nick from a dead player.
I was waiting about 6 years to get this name but i have no chance.
I never saw this player :( to ask him self.
Other games deleted dead players after 1 year or 2 years. Why not here?
Of course i don´t want that other player can play this my name if i was ill or i need to break the game for one year.
But after 6 years i think he is never coming back.
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yes
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Not bad idea, but someone need to track dead accounts and delete them if the owner of account will never comeback. I vote for Yes.
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This is like the 3rd or 4th thread about this theme I've seen being discussed in 2014. I suggest you use the search function before opening a new thread.
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@pvtjimmy
Maybe you are right. But i searched for "nick" "nicks" "name" "names" "nickname" and "nicknames". Used advance search and old topics first. I go to the last two sides and looked for discussions.
found this one: http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=21492.0 but it is not the same. And not found a poll for this.
How long should i search?^^
I forget the option "forever" sry.
And i want the result for a feature vote. ;)
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I think you could formulate your request better or at least it seems better to me. What about just offering these names to players who want to take them? That would make more sense then simply deleting them. Then if old player comes back after 6+ years, he can still use his acc/name if somebody else didnt take it.
Also, you should specify what you want to be deleted, acc name or only dplogin name/names. IMO, deleting acc names is bad move, but dplogin names is fine, as long as there is a longer protected preiod of time in which this name cannot be taken from you. And i assume you meant dplogin names.
EDIT:I thought of some flaws in this, i am pretty sure they were mentioned before but w/e.
The main problem i see, is in deleting "known" people names, for example my friend selda, he did quite some contribution to the game, made some maps, guides and is pretty well known (to some extend). He didnt play PB for 3+ years, but still has maps which have his name.
Now, if someone took his name, i would be kinda mad, because he is my friend and i dont want someone else running with his name, but thats not the main reason. He has some maps in which is his name, now if someone took his name they could start claiming that they made these maps etc. and there would be no way of proving that they are not.
My suggestion is to give people who played long enough immunity in deleting their names. Or we could give them partial immunity, which would protect their "main" name and could never be deleted.
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Offering is the best after a long inactiv time. This is what i want:
You can see how long a player was inactiv and after (2 years) you can simply add this name to your names.
And implement an option to give them immunity. (for example 20 players vote on his page for it)
I am stupid can´t see the different between dplogin names and acc names.
I understand this reason: "He has some maps in which is his name, now if someone took his name they could start claiming that they made these maps etc. and there would be no way of proving that they are not."
I want have the nickname neo. All know me as neo. I asked Jitspoe and can understand if is to much work for him if everybody asked him. But i dont like it to have no chance in 50 years to get this nick.
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The inception of GLS was to prevent impersonating. This will be a step back in the history of this game. Maybe some new players don't understand the importance of this. Oh well.
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I voted for 10 years, cuz there wasn't higher option. I "voted" for forever. Add this vote from 10 years to forever ;)
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Hey, Chris can you tell me why you vote forever?
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If this happens, people will go back and steal the names of famous/popular players that don't actively play right now.
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I agree with Jitspoe. In fact, that happened to me back in the early 2000's. A guy stole my name and started a team under it as well. It took me two straight days to convince everyone on IRC that I was the real me. Pain in the heehaw.
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I agree with Jitspoe. In fact, that happened to me back in the early 2000's. A guy stole my name and started a team under it as well. It took me two straight days to convince everyone on IRC that I was the real me. Pain in the heehaw.
<3. I'm sure every clan in the early 2000s to late 2004s had been a victim of this.
If this happens, people will go back and steal the names of famous/popular players that don't actively play right now.
I'd be the first one to steal your name ;P wait! I'm debating with myself, would it be payl or you? If I had Payl's name, he would rage like never before; which would be extremely entertaining, but if I had the name Jitspoe, I'd be trolling everyone and be really OP.
The inception of GLS was to prevent impersonating. This will be a step back in the history of this game. Maybe some new players don't understand the importance of this. Oh well.
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I vote no, let the legends live on. I left the game for 5+ years before and I'd be pissed if some newb was on my name.
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I vote yes, Clipz's name should be deleted he left for 5 years. Can you add it on my account, cause he's a legend and I rly wanna be like him
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sooo here my idea: If a player was inactiv for 2 years (my opinion) everybody can automatically add this nick to the account. And the legends of the game can be saved with votes from other player on their page. (for example 50 votes)
I dont want steal a name like myers. But it can´t be that all registered names are forever dead. (stupid)
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Nah. Get over it and pick a new name.
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Complicated idea. It's good, like it was and it is right now.
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sooo here my idea: If a player was inactiv for 2 years (my opinion) everybody can automatically add this nick to the account. And the legends of the game can be saved with votes from other player on their page. (for example 50 votes)
I dont want steal a name like myers. But it can´t be that all registered names are forever dead. (stupid)
It's not going to happen, there is to much history to people's names. Get over this idea, sorry brah.
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My opinion: The registered names will expire after X years if you dont login to the website or to dplogin, but 1 year before and 30 days before the user will get an email saying that his names are going to expire and that he should log in on the website or ingame to keep the names for another X years.
IMO, 5 is a good number for X. So after 4 and 4,9 years of not playing, you will get an email saying: play or login, otherwise your registered names will not belong to you anymore.
This is the way the global gamers IRC handles it's accounts and I think this garantuees that popular players will keep their names in their own interest while unpopular players, who do not play this game anymore and don't care about their names, will just let their account expire.
If logging in on a website is too much effort for someone, even if he was a popular player, then he should not have the right to keep his names IMO.
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And what happens when the email used to register is not active anymore?
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If someone's email is not active anymore and he does not remember to edit his account then it can't be that important for him to keep his names. Maybe a list of accounts whose nicks are going to expire and whose owner's email is not active anymore could be published so old friends could try to contact the owner of the account. If thats not possible then it's a misfortune for the account owner, but at some point old and unused accounts have to be deleted and if the account owner does not have any connection to paintball anymore his name should not be registered forever.
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To take an idea from private torrent trackers: stick around long enough and / or contribute something, and your account is protected from inactivity pruning. That way people who are/were known for a decent period of time are protected from pruning, and names that were barely used can expire with/without notification. Not sure how it would be implemented though.
Also, there are plenty of unused nicknames in a single account, so you would need to decide whether you are a) account pruning or b) name pruning. They are two different things to me.
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If someone's email is not active anymore and he does not remember to edit his account then it can't be that important for him to keep his names. Maybe a list of accounts whose nicks are going to expire and whose owner's email is not active anymore could be published so old friends could try to contact the owner of the account. If thats not possible then it's a misfortune for the account owner, but at some point old and unused accounts have to be deleted and if the account owner does not have any connection to paintball anymore his name should not be registered forever.
Uhh terrible idea. Alot of people don't have the same email or even a way to contact old clan mates. There are unlimited names to choose from. If someone one can't think of one that is their own fault.
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If someone one can't think of one that is their own fault.
Exactly, get over it.
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Lol... This username (shtspoe) is reserved. To creat nicknames is so stupid here.
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names don't make legends. Who cares if you have to come back under a new name cause someone stole your name.
If you're good, you'll be good regardless of your name. It doesn't matter what username your skill is under. Someone can take MyeRs, but they'll never be as good as me. I can use another nickname and be the name.
Just like team names (because of the tag more so than names) should have expiry dates.
It's not about the brand, it's about the quality of the product.
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It's not about the brand, it's about the quality of the product.
Which is why companies spend millions of dollars buying other companies, names, copyrights, etc...
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Which is why companies spend millions of dollars buying other companies, names, copyrights, etc...
Cause people are weak and fall into peer pressure of society to conform to the norm by assuming a name on a plain white T-shirt creates a better social stigma.
But the DP2 community is made up of strong individuals. So it becomes an ideal society where we do not fall into the peer pressure of the brand. We create style, we don't follow.
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lold at strong individuals.
I think name removal is fine, if people havent played for lets say 5+ years, who gives a flying intercourse if they keep their name or not; infact id bet most of those players wouldnt care either, seeing as theyve left the game.
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5+ years is too long. Changes happen constantly. If a player didn't find time to open their games for years then probably they lost their interest. So, I guess being inactive for 1 year can remove your name.
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i think its really ok as it is. This is one really unique part of this game and
it's good you can recognize certain celebrities because they are the only ones that may use their nick.
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celebrities
Wow, am I a celebrity here too? Would assume yes after yesterday like 3ppl were asking if Paylord=Payl and came to conclusion I'm not payl. Well, obviously I am not.
I would see it this way: If someone requests removing a name so he can take it, he can donate some $$$ to jitspoe and then if this account wasn't well known in community at some point, he will get this name.
This would have few pros:
1. Jitspoe can get a little $$$ of this.
2. It would prevent 'celebrities' being removed (assuming they were celebrities to begin with).
3. Everyone can get name he wants so bad.
Of course this $$$ would be to compensate for jitspoes time doing that and it would prevent people from asking about it too much.
5+ years is too long. Changes happen constantly. If a player didn't find time to open their games for years then probably they lost their interest. So, I guess being inactive for 1 year can remove your name.
This game was around for a very long time, and I think there are people that came back after >1year.
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If someone's email is not active anymore and he does not remember to edit his account then it can't be that important for him to keep his names. Maybe a list of accounts whose nicks are going to expire and whose owner's email is not active anymore could be published so old friends could try to contact the owner of the account. If thats not possible then it's a misfortune for the account owner, but at some point old and unused accounts have to be deleted and if the account owner does not have any connection to paintball anymore his name should not be registered forever.
I agree with this. I don't think names should be registered forever. If a someone hasn't played in 3-5 years and they don't check their email I don't think they care about the game that much.
I would see it this way: If someone requests removing a name so he can take it, he can donate some $$$ to jitspoe and then if this account wasn't well known in community at some point, he will get this name.
This would have few pros:
1. Jitspoe can get a little $$$ of this.
2. It would prevent 'celebrities' being removed (assuming they were celebrities to begin with).
3. Everyone can get name he wants so bad.
Of course this $$$ would be to compensate for jitspoes time doing that and it would prevent people from asking about it too much.
This game was around for a very long time, and I think there are people that came back after >1year.
I kinda like this idea but I think it can be improved.
Instead of donating to steal someones name I think something like a "Premium Account" would be better. Pay a one-time fee to have a "Premium Account". Could have multiple benefits including:
1. Name/Account is never deleted
2. Maybe some special icon next to your name in-game to show off
3. +v in #paintball (:p)
4. Name on your jersey in-game (if that feature is ever finished)
5. Maybe reduce the amount of names a normal account can have from 10 to 5 and then allow "Premium Accounts" to have 10.
6. etc..
7. Jitspoe makes enough money to quit his job and work on dp full time.
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I agree with this. I don't think names should be registered forever. If a someone hasn't played in 3-5 years and they don't check their email I don't think they care about the game that much.
I kinda like this idea but I think it can be improved.
Instead of donating to steal someones name I think something like a "Premium Account" would be better. Pay a one-time fee to have a "Premium Account". Could have multiple benefits including:
1. Name/Account is never deleted
2. Maybe some special icon next to your name in-game to show off
3. +v in #paintball (:p)
4. Name on your jersey in-game (if that feature is ever finished)
5. Maybe reduce the amount of names a normal account can have from 10 to 5 and then allow "Premium Accounts" to have 10.
6. etc..
7. Jitspoe makes enough money to quit his job and work on dp full time.
Me likey.
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I kinda like this idea but I think it can be improved.
Instead of donating to steal someones name I think something like a "Premium Account" would be better. Pay a one-time fee to have a "Premium Account". Could have multiple benefits including:
1. Name/Account is never deleted
2. Maybe some special icon next to your name in-game to show off
3. +v in #paintball (:p)
4. Name on your jersey in-game (if that feature is ever finished)
5. Maybe reduce the amount of names a normal account can have from 10 to 5 and then allow "Premium Accounts" to have 10.
6. etc..
7. Jitspoe makes enough money to quit his job and work on dp full time.
I don't quite like this idea: Fees would be one-time, and since there aren't that many people playing it wouldn't be any bigger amount of cash. Jitspoe already tried with ads, we know how it ended (not sure why he haven't got to any other ad vendor, tho. He was planning something If I recall correctly).
I actually intended it more to be fee-for-his-time, not P2W or P2F (Pay to fap).
I think jitspoe should focus on packing game with more features if he want to get money of it (but seems he doesn't want whatsoever).
I think reducing limit on names is even more ridiculous: It was intended to stop people from multiaccount (so reduce jitspoe time investment into those), but now we want to probably make a bit of money for this? I don't like this.
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I voted 6 months
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An alternative suggestion:
limit to one nickname per account. Then there will be plenty of names left instead of folks taking up multiple names.
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An alternative suggestion:
limit to one nickname per account. Then there will be plenty of names left instead of folks taking up multiple names.
STAY!!
OT: That will help create more multi-accounts. It will serve as counterproductive; since the "ten nicknames" were meant to eliminate/reduce name stealing. I believe that "one nick per acc" will only work once a proper XP/Rank and Stats system is implemented.
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Back to this topic.^^
If i looked on the polls, i can see the most people don´t want have saved names forever. Pls hear it jitspoe and take a time like 3 years. It is really fair.
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The only reason people would want a nick to expire in three years is if they haven't had a nick for three years.
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The only reason people would want a nick to expire in three years is if they havev't had a nick for three years.
or they want to be pretend/feel like someone else. In other words, impersonate someone. @the people who voted for a "time limit" : what name do you people want anyways? The fact that you want a nick to expire means that you have intention for someone else's nick.
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Sry guys. I have my nick since 6 years. But actually we have about 220.000 registration = more than 1.000.000 names i think. Many new players have problems with good nicks. And i dont want see players with names like: uuumuuluuumm :D .
Try to make a good new nick. Active player don´t need to be angry. And the 20 - 40 nicks, you can add these to a hall of fame or something else. I made good ideas.
All 16 member they have vote "for ever" are very stupid for me. (But really 16? Toxiic write something and 2 new votes for forever.)
800.000 Nicknames are dead forever???? rly??? wait.... RLY?????????????????????????????????????
Pls looked in the future.
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The majority vote is forever. No reason to delete names. Not our fault people can't think of names when there are billions to choose from.
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well i mean say you wanted a name, such as I want SQUIRTLE. Why? 1 reason : Squirtle squirt!! :) it's taken. No one knows who "squirtle" is :p