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Paintball 2: The Game => Paintball 2 Discussion => Topic started by: JeongWa on July 29, 2015, 08:43:42 PM
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Hi there,
My FPS were around 150 -> 250 maximum in DP with windows 8.1
Since i installed the new OS Windows 10 this morning, i went on DP, and see a huge amelioration. They are now at 300 (the lowest) to 1000. Does someone have a explanation to that ? I would like to know what and how. I guess windows 10 is more optimised, and use less memory in the background, but it should have nothing to do with FPS right? Anyway, waiting for the captain to clear things up.
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Have you copied your configuration file? Did you install the same graphics driver? Any changes in any of these may lead to different framerates, I doubt that windows alone gave you that boost.
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Every configurations were saved, i did not install anything beside the windows updater did, and my drivers were already on date. I guess i should just find a whole recap of what is included in the w10 installation, but i did not find that.
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Yeah, since DP runs on OpenGL and not DirectX, Win10 shouldn't have made a difference -- certainly not that much of a difference.
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Are you using nvidia or AMD? With Windows 10 AMD released new GPU update in which they fixed a really old 'misconfiguration' or w/e you wanna call it, the equivalent for nvidia cards is called "Maximum pre-rendered frames = 1" and for some people it caused significant FPS boost.
But reading your post again, I guess you didn't install anything new? Just installed Win10 and was done with it?
PS:F you, I wanna Win10 too, but I am still waiting for my 'notification' :(
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Are you using nvidia or AMD? With Windows 10 AMD released new GPU update in which they fixed a really old 'misconfiguration' or w/e you wanna call it, in nvidia its equivalent to "Maximum pre-rendered frames = 1" and for some people it caused significant FPS boost.
But reading your post again, I guess you didn't install anything new? Just installed Win10 and was done with it?
PS:F you, I wanna Win10 too, but I am still waiting for my 'notification' :(
I have 2x Win10. One from the Insider thing, another upgraded from win8.1
@prozajik wait,wait,wait. Installation files are already loaded in the background. XD. Check the C:\$-Windows or idk named folder (but not the C:\Windows).
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I have 2x Win10. One from the Insider thing, another upgraded from win8.1
@prozajik wait,wait,wait. Installation files are already loaded in the background. XD. Check the C:\$-Windows or idk named folder (but not the C:\Windows).
Microsoft is releasing Win10 in waves, Edu + Enterprise are gonna receive it 1st August. Theoretically I could get Win10 from dreamspark (website which offers paid Microsoft applications for free to some universities) since its already there. But I will rather wait for the notification, upgrade from 8.1 + original 10 = 2 licenses ^^
Yea, I can see the folder, kind of doubt it would work tbh, since its most likely waiting for license or something, but I will see what happens.
EDIT:Yep, can't locate boot.wim
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My win 10 is still downloading =D... i think
Does anybody know how I can check te download progress?
I've installed win 8.1 on my lappy from a BOX set
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Are you using nvidia or AMD?
I got a nvidia. I can guarantee that my FPS were not that high before upgrading my comp to windows 10. Something was in there, just need to find out what.
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I got FPS improvement too, it's amazing, on my windows 8.1 i was 1000 fps, now I'm on 1000 FPS, HUGE. If you look closely, you will see FPS difference between 1000 and 1000.
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I got a nvidia. I can guarantee that my FPS were not that high before upgrading my comp to windows 10. Something was in there, just need to find out what.
Did you download any latest drivers for GPU released specifically for Win10?
But yea, most people are reporting FPS improvements (even tho not as huge as you are describing), its either that or compatibility issues ^^
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Did you download any latest drivers for GPU released specifically for Win10?
I havn't started anything exept the updater of windows 10 which has downloaded everythings it needed. The only way i could have downladed a driver for GPU is if it was included in the updater. That's why i want to find the whole recap about things that were included in the upgrade of windows 10.
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I havn't started anything exept the updater of windows 10 which has downloaded everythings it needed. The only way i could have downladed a driver for GPU is if it was included in the updater. That's why i want to find the whole recap about things that were included in the upgrade of windows 10.
Yea, no way new GPU driver was installed along with Win10
Anyway here you go:
http://changewindows.org/build.php?build=10240
Guess this is as detailed as it gets.
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Alright, thank you, not helping much since there is nothing that explain why my fps have been improved so much.. but meh, i'll not complain ;p
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There is a way to force Windows Update to install Windows 10 before you get the notification. Do a bit of Googling and you should find it. (I can't remember where I saw it.)
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Windows CMD with admin rights -> wuauclt.exe /updatenow
Edit:
Some sites say that works, some say it just works if you already downloaded the files via the update.
Microsoft provides kind of an installer here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
This can be used to update your current machine or to create images for an install cd / thumbdrive.
Also you can directly download an .iso file which contains the installation files, but I can't find any international site that hosts it. Seems like microsoft stopped distributing that. They only link to the tool now.
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Meh, my attempt to install Windows 10 failed miserably. All day did it take to download Windows 10. It took 3 *$#$#@$ HOURS to update (something). I found $Windows.~BT and ran the setup. Said boot.wim was missing. Restarted the computer. EVERY darn THING. GONE. Now I have to wait a few more days for it to update and download again. 0.o
One more thing, how the heck are you supposed to get the boot.wim file?
ONE MORE THING, I'm downloading Windows 10 with this tool Microsoft made: (32-bit: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=616935 (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=616935)) and (64-bit: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=616936 (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=616936)) Enjoy.
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Meh, my attempt to install Windows 10 failed miserably. All day did it take to download Windows 10. It took 3 *$#$#@$ HOURS to update (something). I found $Windows.~BT and ran the setup. Said boot.wim was missing. Restarted the computer. EVERY darn THING. GONE. Now I have to wait a few more days for it to update and download again. 0.o
One more thing, how the heck are you supposed to get the boot.wim file?
ONE MORE THING, I'm downloading Windows 10 with this tool Microsoft made: (32-bit: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=616935 (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=616935)) and (64-bit: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=616936 (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=616936)) Enjoy.
You wont find the setup file. Just wait till that notification appears...
Try to download it with the lil tool ms send to all win 7/win 8.1 PCs,wich is on your taskbar's notification area. (Its called Get Windows 10, process name: GWX.
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Windows CMD with admin rights -> wuauclt.exe /updatenow
That was only part of the solution. I went ahead and dug up a link with the full instructions:
http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/28/how-to-force-windows-to-start-downloading-the-windows-10-update-files/ (http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/28/how-to-force-windows-to-start-downloading-the-windows-10-update-files/)
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That was only part of the solution. I went ahead and dug up a link with the full instructions:
http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/28/how-to-force-windows-to-start-downloading-the-windows-10-update-files/ (http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/28/how-to-force-windows-to-start-downloading-the-windows-10-update-files/)
Pretty cool, thanks for he link. And it works too ^^
I think mine download got stuck somewhere, since everyone seems to have it already. One reason might be that I switch around from company proxy to my home (without proxy) and it probably got confused halfway.
Or I was just supposed to get it later, but meh :p
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You wont find the setup file. Just wait till that notification appears...
Try to download it with the lil tool ms send to all win 7/win 8.1 PCs,wich is on your taskbar's notification area. (Its called Get Windows 10, process name: GWX.
The only problem is that GWX says it's still reserved, not saying anything else. D:
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I have to admit this whole windows 10 free upgrade thing reminds me of Kingsman: The Secret Service.
Why would everyone want to do the upgrade so badly that you can't even wait two more weeks? Home users are forced to become beta testers, you can't completely stop your OS from telling microsoft what you are doing with it (unless using Enterprise, and the default settings are pretty much: We'll just record every keypress you do, just don't mind it) - did I miss any huge advantages that are worth these two things? And no, Dx12 is not that much of an advantage that I would take it.
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The only problem is that GWX says it's still reserved, not saying anything else. D:
You cant do anything else..
Only solution: grab MS's upgrade tool (not GWX)
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OK, that worked. Now I'm running Win10! Now, paintball2 doesn't work. D: Here's an image on what it said:
My video card is: Intel(R) G41 Express Chipset (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM 1.1)
EDIT1: I ran Windows Update, said the video card is up to date.
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https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/18640/Graphics-Intel-Graphics-Media-Accelerator-Driver-for-G41-Express-Chipset
try it manually, win update can be a female dog
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https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/18640/Graphics-Intel-Graphics-Media-Accelerator-Driver-for-G41-Express-Chipset
try it manually, win update can be a female dog
woa woa woa, this says its for windows XP. r u sure this will work on WINDOWS 10?
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Windows 10 = total surveillance
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I still haven't got the notification to upgrade and when i try to force it I get the errors
Code 80246007
Code 80240020
When will they roll the upgrade out to me?
:(
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Read dis: http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/why-are-you-waiting-for-windows-10-so-the-internet-doesnt-crash/ (http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/why-are-you-waiting-for-windows-10-so-the-internet-doesnt-crash/)
'Nuff said.
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I still haven't got the notification to upgrade and when i try to force it I get the errors
Code 80246007
Code 80240020
When will they roll the upgrade out to me?
:(
i heard 64bit version is not even up yet, and the servers for it are blocked. but i dont know if its true..
what do you guys have? 64bit i guess?
ps. im waiting for my notification too
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i heard 64bit version is not even up yet, and the servers for it are blocked. but i dont know if its true..
what do you guys have? 64bit i guess?
ps. im waiting for my notification too
FOR PPL WHO DONT GET NOTIFICATIONS:
USE MS's MEDIA CREATION TOOL.
GOOGLE FOR IT.
100% works.
64bit worx too.
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i heard 64bit version is not even up yet, and the servers for it are blocked. but i dont know if its true..
what do you guys have? 64bit i guess?
ps. im waiting for my notification too
64, just do it through Creation tool https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
Choose 64bit.
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Seems like w10 is so buggy, Sound bugs in windows, Start menu freezing sometimes, control panel freezing sometimes so I'm back to sweet 8.1.
+ http://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.html after reading this one, I will probably stay with 8.1 haha.
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http://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.html after reading this one, I will probably stay with 8.1 haha.
There's a ton of issues with AACS as well (the way hollywood is trying to get rid of pirating). Huge waste of computing power, and it is allowed to monitor your system constantly to check if you play one of their precious movies. The other 99.9% of the time you aren't watching their movies, it still wastes power. Invasive and wasteful.
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+ http://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.html after reading this one, I will probably stay with 8.1 haha.
While I do respect some of the things Richard Stallman and his ilk at the FSF have done for the world of software, I don't fully subscribe to his sometimes fanatical ideology. It may be naive of me, but many of the points made on that page do nothing to sway me. Taken as a whole, that page does tilt me in the direction of Linux a slight bit, but when I look at each individual point, few speak to me in a meaningful way.
Here are the ones that really bother me:
- "secret NSA key in Windows"
- "Microsoft SkyDrive allows the NSA to directly examine users' data."
But neither of those are specific to Win10, so being that I'm already on 8.1, I'm not too apprehensive about upgrading once the minor post-release bugs are fixed.
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Anyone had an opposite effect? I'm kinda frustrated about it, I open up a game and my fps starts at about 200-350. Then it gradually over about 5 minutes slows down to about 50 fps. I was just playing propaint in a match and was getting constant 40ish fps everywhere.
cl_minfps doesn't seem to help
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What video card do you have?
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I don't even know how to find out. Whatever comes standard with the hp pavilion dv6**** laptop
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I think its AMD Radeon HD 6700M series or Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000
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I don't even know how to find out. Whatever comes standard with the hp pavilion dv6**** laptop
Settings->Control Panel->Device Manager->Display adapters
Have you tried manually updating the drivers instead of using the default ones?
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Settings->Control Panel->Device Manager->Display adapters
Have you tried manually updating the drivers instead of using the default ones?
This.
When I updated my computer from windows 7 to windows 10, the first think I noticed was that my resolution was way off, even though it should be HD settings. Since this windows is a completely different infrastructure and design, I went to device manager and updated my drivers manually. There where 3-4 "yellow caution" signs. If there is, right click them and update them.
If that's not the case, what is windows did you have? I'm asking because windows 10 update is not available for windows 7 Enterprise and Windows 8.1 RT. Did you use the Microsoft creation tool? Or was there a bit windows sign that allowed you to update?
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I got asked thru Microsoft (my comp, w/e) to reserve an update. I'll try the device manager
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I got asked thru Microsoft (my comp, w/e) to reserve an update. I'll try the device manager
Its most likely the device manger thing.
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I didn't see any caution flags, I updated from windows 8 I think.
Also this fps thing doesn't happen with Call of Duty on the same laptop so I'm not sure what it could be
Should I look up a Radeon graphics card install from a website or something?
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Lol don't update to Win 10 it's crappy
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Lol don't update to Win 10 it's crappy
Lol, update in 2 months, win 10 is awesome and alot of bugs are going to be fixed in 2 months.
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Lol, update in 2 months, win 10 is awesome and alot of bugs are going to be fixed in 2 months.
KDE 5.4 is much more awesome and it's really for free.
You say Win 10 is free? Not really, we pay Microsoft with our privacy.
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KDE 5.4 is much more awesome and it's really for free.
You say Win 10 is free? Not really, we pay Microsoft with our privacy.
Yes, thats true (also take a look at skype, FB, Google ;-)), but 70% of the privacy-killer functions can be disabled.
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WIN 10 USERS!
Take a look at this article. Thats why you loose alot of brandwidth :-/ .
Link (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2955491/windows/how-to-stop-windows-10-from-using-your-pcs-bandwidth-to-update-strangers-systems.html)
EDIT: KDE looks very nice, is it possible to install Arch Linux or Xubuntu besides Win10 and then install KDE on it?
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KDE 5.4 is much more awesome and it's really for free.
You say Win 10 is free? Not really, we pay Microsoft with our privacy.
Well, the thing is now they actually said it out loud what they are monitoring. Pretty sure they are still monitoring something which can't be disabled and wouldn't be surprised if win7/8 did so as well.
Linux is cute, but the issue is that it is not the mainstream platform so the the number of actually good and quality apps is pretty inferior to Windows (taking games into account). Also, you need to do like an hour research before you can do anything out of ordinary. Eg. I wanted to install JDE so I can run NetBeans, well it took like 5-10 minutes to find a 12 step tutorial on how to actually install it correctly. But yea, as a reward for that, you can be pretty much sure that developers aren't spying on you.
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WIN 10 USERS!
Take a look at this article. Thats why you loose alot of brandwidth :-/ .
Link (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2955491/windows/how-to-stop-windows-10-from-using-your-pcs-bandwidth-to-update-strangers-systems.html)
EDIT: KDE looks very nice, is it possible to install Arch Linux or Xubuntu besides Win10 and then install KDE on it?
There's also this: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/
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There's also this: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/
Hmm, yes this is sad. I think I'll downgrade.
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Hmm, yes this is sad. I think I'll downgrade.
Sounds like it doesn't matter because they're rolling out updates to windows 7 and 8 that have the same questionable "features".
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Sounds like it doesn't matter because they're rolling out updates to windows 7 and 8 that have the same questionable "features".
Yes. I am going to use linux from now on.
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Yes. I am going to use linux from now on.
The problem is that DP doesnt work on Linux very well.
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The problem is that DP doesnt work on Linux very well.
Best combination: Win 7 besides Ubuntu/Arch linux.
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kmspico spying destroyer ;)
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I can use Wine with the windows build on linux perfectly fine.
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I can use Wine with the windows build on linux perfectly fine.
There are some problems with mouse.
Atm i use win 8 just for DP and Linux Mint 17.2 with Cinnamon for the other stuff
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I ended up going back down to windows 7, I think I had that before the upgrade not 8, and my fps is normal again