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Title: impersonating cola again.
Post by: postmortem on September 21, 2006, 02:10:46 PM
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Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: jitspoe on September 21, 2006, 04:03:06 PM
This kind of thing should be resolved (or at least reduced) once I finish build 17.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: postmortem on September 21, 2006, 06:09:27 PM
anything going to be done about it now?
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: loial21 on September 22, 2006, 12:52:39 AM
anything going to be done about it now?
Yes good question! What would be justice for this anyways? Beyond what has been tried.

I respect the sense of urgency but a report of the server name and date / time is helpful.

Any idea when this happend and where?
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: Eiii on September 22, 2006, 01:04:16 AM
Even if we could get when and where it happened, there's not much we could do after that. About all we can do is look out for impersonators a bit more.

And in what way is this urgent?
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: jitspoe on September 22, 2006, 01:44:55 AM
anything going to be done about it now?
What do you propose I do?
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: Eiii on September 22, 2006, 01:50:26 AM
Oh, you and the server owner have to figure that out. Loial just helps let you know when such a horrendous crime is being committed. :)
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: loial21 on September 22, 2006, 02:15:05 AM
Not just "when", but more importantly where! :)
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: Spook on September 22, 2006, 04:48:57 PM
And in what way is this urgent?
i believe the crime of letting people into a clan is why its urgent since we really don't want any new members who suck.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: SkateR on September 22, 2006, 05:41:28 PM
WTF SOMEONE IS IMPERSONATING A [CC-R] MEMBER TOO!!!!!!! TODAY IN OUR MATCH SOMEONE DID!!!!! LOOK!!

Session Start: Fri Sep 22 17:25:00 2006
Session Ident: [CC-R]DuDe
<SkateR> hey did u match today
<[CC-R]DuDe> na not today y
<[CC-R]DuDe> yyy
<[CC-R]DuDe> yy
<SkateR> someone faked your name
Session Close: Fri Sep 22 17:25:49 2006

Session Start: Fri Sep 22 17:25:57 2006
Session Ident: [CC-R]DuDe
Session Ident: [CC-R]DuDe (~_CC-R_DuD@dial-1-57.r01.tngnbo.infoave.net)
<[CC-R]DuDe> o really
<[CC-R]DuDe> who did they match
<SkateR> insane
<[CC-R]DuDe> hmm
<[CC-R]DuDe> i was at school
Session Close: Fri Sep 22 17:27:26 2006

GeEz I CuLd OF sWoRN DaT cCr DuDe HaD likE a 400 PiNg BuT diZ cCrDuDe's PiNG wUz lyKe 80. WtF????

Whoever played for them from cc was absolutely terrible. Guessing it was colon or cola.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: PiCaSSo on September 22, 2006, 06:12:56 PM
Even if we could get when and where it happened, there's not much we could do after that. About all we can do is look out for impersonators a bit more.

And in what way is this urgent?

There is plenty we can do if we have the server information.  A server owner can choose to ban the idiot.

Also, learn to read... Loial did NOT imply anything was urgent.  He said "I respect the sense of urgency".  Postmortems's statement could easily be construed as a sense of urgency.

Irregardless. Loial is being respectful in his posts and you guys keep chiming in every chance you get with NON productive, immature remarks and cheap pot shots.  This is why you would NEVER be a good moderator for this forum and if by chance you ever did I'm sure your only audience would eventually be narrowed down to being all the other regular idiots on this forum that continuously attack others on here for self glory or whatever.  I believe there to be 10 or so of you, 5 of which do it daily.

Try growing up a bit and be a part of the solution instead of part of the problem.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: TinMan on September 22, 2006, 06:22:49 PM
Eiii was right, there probably isn't anything that could be done about it. Many people have dynamic IPs, thus banning that IP used in the past would be of no affect.
Dealing with this impersonation isn't that urgent considering that the global-login is coming soon and will bring an end to these situations.

If someone were to impersonate in a match, their clan shouldn't have lacked the communication that it would require to figure out if the person is legit.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: Smokey on September 22, 2006, 07:39:28 PM
Eiii was right, there probably isn't anything that could be done about it. Many people have dynamic IPs, thus banning that IP used in the past would be of no affect.
Dealing with this impersonation isn't that urgent considering that the global-login is coming soon and will bring an end to these situations.

If someone were to impersonate in a match, their clan shouldn't have lacked the communication that it would require to figure out if the person is legit.
they did it on purpose, because they were losing...badly
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: Eiii on September 22, 2006, 07:39:56 PM
Even if we could get when and where it happened, there's not much we could do after that. About all we can do is look out for impersonators a bit more.

And in what way is this urgent?

There is plenty we can do if we have the server information.  A server owner can choose to ban the idiot.

Also, learn to read... Loial did NOT imply anything was urgent.  He said "I respect the sense of urgency".  Postmortems's statement could easily be construed as a sense of urgency.

Irregardless. Loial is being respectful in his posts and you guys keep chiming in every chance you get with NON productive, immature remarks and cheap pot shots.  This is why you would NEVER be a good moderator for this forum and if by chance you ever did I'm sure your only audience would eventually be narrowed down to being all the other regular idiots on this forum that continuously attack others on here for self glory or whatever.  I believe there to be 10 or so of you, 5 of which do it daily.

Try growing up a bit and be a part of the solution instead of part of the problem.

I'm tired of Loials long, rambling posts that usually accomplish nothing. I did see the respect the sense of urgency thing, and thought about how to interpret that. Since there didn't seem to be a sense of urgency at the time, I assumed he meant that he thought it was urgent.

And to Spook:
People can just put on a tag and be 'in' the clan. You know who's in your clan and who's not. Make sure other people do too.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: loial21 on September 22, 2006, 07:48:06 PM
Coming soon? LOL. Not soon enough dear sir. Thus the urgency in his request.

I don't expect those that posted indifference to care. You have no vested intrest.  After all its not any of you that is being affected. Just those that care are, which is travesty. Which brings up the point of the admins needing this information so that they care share with other admins.

Most important Jitspoe I know this might be a tough pill to swallow and more work than you need, but consider a global ban on impostors. In this case it is warrented. In  others it might be difficult to prove. We really should consider total banishment from the game / irc / forum if you can not behave. Being nice is not working.

Doug scores!!!


*edit
Your unfounded assumptions and negative attitude to wards anyone who wants to improve the community or worse express an opinion that might benefit another is not understood. I am not saying you don't know what you are talking about. You just have a way of expressing your self in a manor that is not befitting of your intelligence. That was not a flame, just a personal observation from someone who has felt the butt-end of your stick.

What you call pointless others find helpful and sometimes polite. Guess what? I don't post to make you happy. I do it to bring logic and fairness to the game. If anyone has a problem with this go to Jitspoe and ask him to ban me. As he as asked the forum readers to do. Otherwise deal with it and move on. Notice I did not say or move on. I dont want you to quit posting. Just stop being so negative.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: TinMan on September 22, 2006, 07:57:26 PM
The global-login would be considered urgent, not this. this is nub.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: Eiii on September 22, 2006, 08:01:46 PM
Most important Jitspoe I know this might be a tough pill to swallow and more work than you need, but consider a global ban on impostors.

...I think there already is, but I'm not sure. And even if one is implemented, there's nothing we can do with this except be on the lookout for Cola impostors. All we have is a screenshot showing someone named [cc]Cola saying 'Anyone wanna join cc?'. No IP address, we could probably figure out what server it's on, no specific time, anything. Even if we did have the specific time, I don't think we could find the IP with that.

TinMan is correct.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: loial21 on September 22, 2006, 08:18:50 PM
Most important Jitspoe I know this might be a tough pill to swallow and more work than you need, but consider a global ban on impostors.

...I think there already is, but I'm not sure. And even if one is implemented, there's nothing we can do with this except be on the lookout for Cola impostors. All we have is a screenshot showing someone named [cc]Cola saying 'Anyone wanna join cc?'. No IP address, we could probably figure out what server it's on, no specific time, anything. Even if we did have the specific time, I don't think we could find the IP with that.

TinMan is correct.
But the admins can find this out and take action. Having a date / time and location helps makes this proccess faster. Also I know tinman in correct about the dynamic IP addresses. That is why I might consider a hard IP ban.

going home editing as needed from there.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: JiGSaW on September 22, 2006, 08:19:45 PM
Who dis be?

http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sshot000fr9.jpg
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: TinMan on September 22, 2006, 08:30:36 PM
That is why I might consider a hard IP ban.
Hard IP?
Do you mean hardware/mac address? If so, I'm for that. Its still very easily spoofable, but it's just another blockade for the cheaters/impostors to have to get by.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: Eiii on September 22, 2006, 08:37:21 PM
I don't think you can currently do that.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: Eiii on September 22, 2006, 08:38:42 PM
But the admins can find this out and take action. Having a date / time and location helps makes this process faster.

Uh, how? In case they strike again at the same time? Or do the admins have a time machine?
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: TinMan on September 22, 2006, 08:39:42 PM
I don't think you can currently do that.
You can't, the server can using external apps and such, but right now there's no way to do it in paintball2. I'm thinking that b17 will have it as a security measure for the global-login. The point was that IP bans aren't effective.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: PiCaSSo on September 22, 2006, 08:58:24 PM
That's just it eiii... The problem I have with you is that for the past month or so, you have been purposely gunning for Loial whether his posts make sense or not...  There was nothing at all wrong with his reply to this thread yet you felt the need to make something wrong with it. 

Sometimes you actually seem to put forth a concerted effort to help people on here but with constant replies like yours to him in this thread, you're only demeaning yourself and it serves no purpose whatsoever.  Frankly, as you can see, I am becoming annoyed by you.

Now, back to the actual intention of this thread and to back up Loial's original reply, If we know what server the idiot was impersonating on then we can go into the logs of the server and find his IP.  If he got back on the GraFFiTi servers we would then know that his IP had changed.

No one said anything about his IP changing and again no one said it was an urgent matter.  There is a BIG difference in calling it an urgent matter and replying respectfully to what SEEMS like someone else's SENSE OF URGENCY.

Simply put, IF YOU SEE SOMEONE IMPERSONATING SOMEONE ELSE OR A CLAN TAG AND IT BOTHERS YOU ENOUGH THAT YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO POST IT HERE, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU NAME WHAT SERVER IT WAS ON AND WHAT TIME OF THE DAY OR NIGHT IT WAS THEN IT WILL BE LEFT UP TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF THOSE SERVERS TO DEAL WITH.

Also, take the time to explain to the person that impersonating ect.. is frowned on ect...

I look forward to the Global Login system as well and I hope it takes care of issues like this but until it is implemented, the admin of servers will have to take care of these issues as they see fit.

Easy enough?  Simple!

Sadly, yet another thread is tarnished with the usual mis guided responses and ridiculous replies.

In it's originality this would have been a simple thread to deal with but again the magpies and vultures have landed.

Now, it's Friday night and I believe I might get toasted... Care for a snort!! hahaha   ;D
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: Eiii on September 22, 2006, 09:06:42 PM
Simply put, IF YOU SEE SOMEONE IMPERSONATING SOMEONE ELSE OR A CLAN TAG AND IT BOTHERS YOU ENOUGH THAT YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO POST IT HERE, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU NAME WHAT SERVER IT WAS ON AND WHAT TIME OF THE DAY OR NIGHT IT WAS THEN IT WILL BE LEFT UP TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF THOSE SERVERS TO DEAL WITH.

Very nice. This needs to go in a sticky somewhere, or something. :P
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: PiCaSSo on September 22, 2006, 09:09:27 PM
Why thank you eiii.. Would you care for a Jim Beam Black n Coke? LOL ;D
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: skwurul on September 26, 2006, 05:53:19 AM
I play under a new name now, dethx. A guy under the name Cola came in and asked if anyone wanted to join CC, I said okay. I thought at first that it was because I had a really nice record going (something along the lines of 40-ish kills and 20 ish deaths), but it could have been the imposter. Carplol.

If cola reads this, have you ever accepted a dethx into CC?
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: PiCaSSo on September 26, 2006, 09:45:34 AM
That was the fake [CC]CoLa...
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: Spook on September 26, 2006, 05:31:56 PM
everyone use this to realize if [CC] wants you or not. We DON'T ask you in pub. So the only way you can tryout is  Olbaid Liquid Crip Postmortem or myself. We hold regular tryouts maybe once a month, so go to #Team_CC and ask.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: anonyme coLA on September 29, 2006, 09:56:04 AM
No ONE has the right to ban me or kick me from servers !!!!

BeCauSe i will come back like now :D Muahahha

CC IS MY OWN CLAN AND MY NAME IS COLA SO


SHUT UP NO ONE HAS A PATENT ON THIS NAME SO


EVERYONE CAN USE IT !!!!!


FREAKSSSSS

kerem da konet @ all

Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: Lunatic on September 29, 2006, 12:19:11 PM
Aww that's cute.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: coLa on September 29, 2006, 12:19:48 PM
lmao poor kid has no life it really is so sad...
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: bitmate on September 29, 2006, 01:46:26 PM
Is it some German kid?
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: PiCaSSo on September 29, 2006, 01:51:26 PM
Yep... this was the last bit of info I had on him:

IP:                80.139.164.32
Country:           Germany
City:              Wiesloch, Baden-Wurttemberg

Country Code:      DE
Currency:          EUR [euros]
Private IP?        No
Known Proxy?       No

I haven't checked the server logs to see if he's managed to worm his way back on but if does then I'll just ban his domain.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: jitspoe on September 29, 2006, 02:45:45 PM
No ONE has the right to ban me or kick me from servers !!!!
They do, but you don't have the right to play on them.  It's a privilege.  Consider that privilege revoked.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: Smokey on September 29, 2006, 02:51:37 PM
owned.

globalban his domain, jitspoe.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: GreenAffairz on September 30, 2006, 02:38:06 AM
man werz my impozters :(
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: SkateR on October 04, 2006, 04:32:45 PM
Funny how you losers whine about people impersonationg people..

<FeZ> hey
<FeZ> did olbaid say i could join and u 2???
<FeZ> join i

Looks like I have some recruiting to do for CC
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: Olbaid on October 04, 2006, 04:37:36 PM
That doesn't make any sense.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: SkateR on October 04, 2006, 04:44:28 PM
hes saying "did olbaid and you say I can join insane"

please dont pretend to be a member of my clan, I understand you want to be in a better clan, maybe sometime olbaid. But, I did some recruiting for you
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: Spook on October 04, 2006, 04:46:43 PM
Since he's so mature, he retaliated, way to go.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: SkateR on October 04, 2006, 04:56:23 PM
? do you expect me not to say something or do something? I dont go and try and get newbies to join your clan, do I spook?
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: jitspoe on October 04, 2006, 05:07:29 PM
you losers
Didn't your temp ban just expire?  You want another already?
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: SkateR on October 04, 2006, 05:14:02 PM
jitspoe, wow youre unbelievable. look at what they did, ok what shall I call them. You outstanding citizens of the DP community
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: SkateR on October 04, 2006, 05:15:35 PM
<Ap3x|Warhead> i want to tryout for [ i ]
<Ap3x|Warhead> olbaid wants me to
<SkateR> OLBAID IS NOT IN INSANE
<Ap3x|Warhead> he says he is
..
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: Smokey on October 04, 2006, 05:17:50 PM
i say that warrents a global ban for olbaid
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: PiCaSSo on October 04, 2006, 05:51:37 PM
jitspoe, wow youre unbelievable. look at what they did, ok what shall I call them. You outstanding citizens of the DP community

Skater, try acting with a little bit of maturity and make your points without name calling or verbal attacks for starters.
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: SkateR on October 04, 2006, 06:01:57 PM
PiCaSSo, try not temp banning someone from a server every 10 mins, k?
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: Spook on October 04, 2006, 06:16:04 PM
? do you expect me not to say something or do something? I don't go and try and get newbies to join your clan, do I spook?

I'm just saying, it was one person, one fake let-in. There was no need to attack all of CC, or retaliate by getting us a few new "members"
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: SkateR on October 04, 2006, 06:27:04 PM
uhm well, olbaid actually told at least two people. Not one person, sorry but youre wrong
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: jitspoe on October 04, 2006, 07:53:44 PM
Are you certain it was oldbaid and not a spoof?  How and when were these people told?
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: SkateR on October 04, 2006, 08:01:03 PM
lol, im guessing via irc. Two people told me, and I guarantee it wasnt a spoof considering olbaids name on irc is olba[ i ]d
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: PiCaSSo on October 04, 2006, 10:24:44 PM
PiCaSSo, try not temp banning someone from a server every 10 mins, k?

Skater first of all stick to the subject... second of all I haven't banned anyone except the cola impersonator in a long time.  Third and last you made a boo boo.. Don't take it out on me! :P
Title: Re: impersonating cola again.
Post by: Olbaid on October 05, 2006, 12:13:31 AM
Nice try Skater, great effort

*slow claps..

Keep up the good work champ.