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Digital Paint Community => Other Stuff => Topic started by: SmPeR on July 23, 2007, 06:35:39 AM
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idk i saw a post in the name thread and decided to start this. i personally am stcuk between the 2nd and 3rd option so go ahead and vote
if you choose other post name
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Stevie Ray Vaughn
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ok
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Alexi "Wildchild" Laiho from Children Of Bodom
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Steve Vai
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I'm kinda liking Peter Frampton right now, but I think Jimmy Page for all time.
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Heh, Mark Tremonti is better than Elvis.
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Ritchie Blackmore.
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people people people, everyone mentioned there is good but the one who is best is jimmy page, to decied the best guitarist, listen to the riffs they write and the complexity of there tab, page uses many mayny many different styles and HES USES A FRIKING VIOLIN BOW!...... steve vai, ok, blackmore, ok,even bucket head, ok.....page=gr8
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Teh DragonForce dudez.
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people people people, everyone mentioned there is good but the one who is best is jimmy page, to decied the best guitarist, listen to the riffs they write and the complexity of there tab, page uses many mayny many different styles and HES USES A FRIKING VIOLIN BOW!...... steve vai, ok, blackmore, ok,even bucket head, ok.....page=gr8
WiZ,
Don't forget that alot of peeps here weren't even born when LZ was popular. JP FTW!
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Matthew Kiichi Heafy and Corey Beaulieu (Trivium)
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people people people, everyone mentioned there is good but the one who is best is jimmy page, to decied the best guitarist, listen to the riffs they write and the complexity of there tab, page uses many mayny many different styles and HES USES A FRIKING VIOLIN BOW!...... steve vai, ok, blackmore, ok,even bucket head, ok.....page=gr8
WiZ,
Don't forget that alot of peeps here weren't even born when LZ was popular. JP FTW!
well i wasnt alive,(1992=best year ever) but, now i can listen to stuff like death metal and calssic rock, realizing classic rock rriffs blow the metal ones away, because metal is all tapping.......(classic rock=hardest to paly)
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Best guitarist in the world is john 5. Close runner up is Zack Wylde.
~MT
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lol all zakk did was play for ozzy he burnt out once he hit black lable society, hes good but lots r better-JP-ftw
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no good guitarist
only good drummers
without drummers no guitarist......
heheheheheheheh
lol
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you forgot to put herman li and sam from dragonforce on there kevin. lol.
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Oh boy.
Some great great guitarists have been mentioned, but are we talking technique, melodic ability, over all talent? And in what style, classical, rock, metal, jazz, flamenco?
The all-time best guitarist ever is Paganini, hands down.
Paganini wrote almost all of his violin works on guitar, along with his many guitar pieces. And he sold his soul to the devil long before Jimmy Page did!
Other great guitarists (not in any particular order):
-Andrea Segovia.
-Yngwie Malmsteen.
-Al Di Meola, John McLaughlin & Paco de Lucía (get this, you'll not regret: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guitar_Trio).
-Eliot Fisk (Specifically his masterful transposition of Paganini's 24 Caprices for Solo Violin to guitar).
-Brian May (Queen, for the classic rock genre)
The list could go on and on. I, personally, would put Tony Iommi (Sabbath), Angus Young (ACDC), Tom Sholtz (Boston), Alex Lifeson (Rush), and many others on that list, all for their skill, showmanship, creativity, and impact on music. Like I said, the list could go on and on. Even Crosby Stills Nash and Young wrote some awesome folk guitar.
Drummers, did you say?
Neil Peart (Rush)
John Bonham (LZ)
Dave Lombardo (Slayer)
Bill Ward (Sabbath)
Tommy Lee (Motely Crew, yes I said it.)
Vinnie Appice (late Sabbath, Dio)
Andy Newmark (Pink Floyd & Roger Waters - maybe he's just OK, but tripping on acid seeing him play live was life changing).
GAK this list could go on and on also.
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Some great great guitarists have been mentioned, but are we talking technique, melodic ability, over all talent? And in what style, classical, rock, metal, jazz, flamenco?
I thought flamenco was implied :-[
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Hendrix didn't make the best recordings, but as far as sheer talent goes, he is easily the greatest.
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John Petrucci, Steve Vai are one of the best Rockguitarist imo. They got feeling and technique. Sure every metalbandguitarist is fast, but 90% of them just shred D-aeolian, or something up and down the neck. A tapping or sweeping here and there. But it's not all about technique. David Gilmour for example is amazing, but not a good shredder. All the jazzguys are fast as hell too, but even there are just 50% who got real feelings in the music. If Jimi Hendrix had the amps and stuff, the guitarist nowadays got, he would have been "better". But the way he played changed rock'n'rock and was one thing, which changed the music to what's it today.
There is much more to say about it, but my english is too bad to write it all down.
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Either John 5 or Herman Li from Dragonforce...yeah their metal but Li can play fast for more than 9 minutes.
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but got NO feeling. he's just fast nothing more
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but got NO feeling. he's just fast nothing more
You have to listen to more than just a few of their songs....If you haven't followed them from the beggining then your not gonna understand it.....there are different types of "feeling".
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john Butler.
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Dime Bag
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John Petrucci, Paul Gilbert, SRV.
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Dime Bag
forgot about him... pantera used to be my fav band.. ill add him werte elvis was
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SRV FTW.
Also it would be hard to choose, kind of. SRV in my opinion the best not only blues player, but guitarest in general. If it had to be rock only, Hendrix would have my vote.
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Mark Knopfler or Eric Clapton :)
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Eddie Van Halen
That is all that should be said but I will make a comment.
Don't get me wrong I like Jimi Hendrix and some of the others listed , but Eddie Van Halen had a sound and style unlike any other.
No other guitarist in history has had such an effect as Eddie. He changed the way guitars were played and made. He is one of, if not the most copied guitarist ever, the 80's was influenced by him. His playing style and inventions(they are used on most electric guitars) are still seen today.
Now you can say that some of the others listed had an impact on music as well, but that doesn't change the Fact that Eddies playing influenced an entire period of rock. When Eddie started out people couldn't believe what they were hearing and Eddie would play with his back to the audience, so no one would be able to copy his playing style.
BEST GUITARIST EVER!!!
Eddie Van Halen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1wuBFfALs)
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Kurt Cobain, Kirk Hammet, Jimmi Hendrix...all the best.
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let's not forget randy rhodes!!!
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Eddie Van Halen, no doubt great, but not as legendary as some of the others mentioned.
Tony Iommi and Black Sabbath has had, arguably, the largest influence on the rock/metal sound than any other guitarist/band.
Now I won't say Tony Iommi was a brilliant technical guitarist, like Eddie Van Halen, but his tone and riff writings are still influencing rock and metal today.
As great as Eddie is/was technically, and he's awesome no doubt, he was absolutely destroyed by the likes of Paul Gilbert, Yngwie Malmsteen, Steve Vai, <insert blazing fast ultra technical guitarist here>. The issue there was most of those ultra technical guitarists lacked the style of Eddie, and lacked the melodic structure and power of the name of Van Halen,
Keep in mind that Tony Iommi (Black Sabbath), Jimmy Hendrix, Tom Shultz (Boston), and Brian May (Queen) can also be grouped with Eddie in the "Created a unique sound that influence a genre" class of guitarists. In fact Tom Shultz, an MIT grad, created the FUZZ effect so popular and prominent in Boston music. They just lacked the follow-up ability that Van Halen had. This had more to do with timing than anything else though. Van Halen hit at a time when "party rock" exploded and ACDC was up there on top with the other "party rock" greats.
I can't even believe someone has chose to include that coward suiciding poor excuse for a human, Kurt Cobain, in this thread. Come on, get real. Nirvana was innovative in launching the Seattle scene, and creating a new, spin off, on rock/metal (the grunge movement). But, technically, and in the context of this thread, they, not Cobain or anyone else in that band, holds a candle to the likes of some of those listed here. He was average with cool new sound, end of story.
As I wrote this a post was made on Randy Rhodes. I actually thought about him for this thread days ago. Upon realizing I didn't mention him I felt like I betrayed him and this thread. Randy Rhodes was a genius. So amazing!
To me, Jeff Hanneman and Kerry King (Slayer) are two of the greatest guitarists due to their technical rhythm abilities. No, they aren't blazing fast and technical lead guitarists, but their rhythm creations and style, equally as fastly played as most leads, is second to none.
In all honest, this subject is too broad and too, well, subjective. There's a world of guitarists out there that effect each and every one of us differently. There is no way to develop a criteria for "BEST GUITARIST EVER." There are so many that are so great in so many different ways.
What is a "greatest guitarist," how and why?
Let's take the classical genre and ask, "Why are we not considering them as the greatest guitarists EVER?" In the old days of solos, duets, quartets, sonatas, concertos, symphonies, and opera, where being a musician was a lifetime, 24/7 dedication, gaining you lucrative employment under a king, if you were good enough, being a musician was about more than gathering a bunch of marginally talented dudes together in your garage and banging out tunes while you, your mom, dog, and neighbors went def. These musicians played by the sheet, and wrote by the sheet. Their pieces were under the utmost scrutiny, potentially costing your life if undesirable. You wrote, you played, and you taught. That's what you did. That's all you did. You were a master of your trade, or you worked a different trade. Popularity was never by accident, or beer induced. Popularity was based on talent and desire.
Some classical guitar pieces are the most intricate, melodic, and beautiful guitar works ever made. They are not just appealing notes played together. They are master pieces eliciting journeys in the mind. Multi-dimensional and unfathomably deep. Soothing and peaceful, as well as, vigorous and exciting. Classical music, in general, is music for all eternity. We (human kind) may never again live in a time where it is commonplace to expect such dedication and perfection in musical works.
To bring up this thread, and not consider the "masters" of guitar from an era long past, gives little credibility to your knowledge of music, and the guitar specifically. The guitar was not invented by Jimmy Hendrix or Jimmy Page back in the 60's. They simply derived their technique & styles from centuries of influence cascading down from each guitarist before them.
Broaden your horizons...Check them out...
Paco De Lucia
Al DiMeola
John McLaughlin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfTzojPY_I8
John Williams...I can play this on guitar, though not this well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEfFbuT3I6A
Do you laugh at this list, like I do: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5937559/the_100_greatest_guitarists_of_all_time
Cobain-12, Eddie Van Halen-70...wtf...please!
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Oh boy.
Some great great guitarists have been mentioned, but are we talking technique, melodic ability, over all talent? And in what style, classical, rock, metal, jazz, flamenco?
The all-time best guitarist ever is Paganini, hands down.
Paganini wrote almost all of his violin works on guitar, along with his many guitar pieces. And he sold his soul to the devil long before Jimmy Page did!
Other great guitarists (not in any particular order):
-Andrea Segovia.
-Yngwie Malmsteen.
-Al Di Meola, John McLaughlin & Paco de Lucía (get this, you'll not regret: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guitar_Trio).
-Eliot Fisk (Specifically his masterful transposition of Paganini's 24 Caprices for Solo Violin to guitar).
-Brian May (Queen, for the classic rock genre)
The list could go on and on. I, personally, would put Tony Iommi (Sabbath), Angus Young (ACDC), Tom Sholtz (Boston), Alex Lifeson (Rush), and many others on that list, all for their skill, showmanship, creativity, and impact on music. Like I said, the list could go on and on. Even Crosby Stills Nash and Young wrote some awesome folk guitar.
Drummers, did you say?
Neil Peart (Rush)
John Bonham (LZ)
Dave Lombardo (Slayer)
Bill Ward (Sabbath)
Tommy Lee (Motely Crew, yes I said it.)
Vinnie Appice (late Sabbath, Dio)
Andy Newmark (Pink Floyd & Roger Waters - maybe he's just OK, but tripping on acid seeing him play live was life changing).
GAK this list could go on and on also.
to add some drummers:
-Ian Paice
-Chad Weckl
-Dave Grohl
-Jon Hiseman
-Carl Palmer
-Chad Wackerman
-Terry Bozzio
-Vinnie Colaiuta
etc...
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Euronymous from Mayhem.
P.s this is about guitarists not drummers.
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whats a drummer? oh... the guy that sits in the back on a chair. nvm
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David Lee Roth re-joined Van-Halen!
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and sounded REAL smart at that confrence.....
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Best guitarist ever? Eric Johnson easily wins that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHjDHdu8IQM
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Out of those, I really like Ted Nugent, so I'm biased. However, I guarantee most of you have never heard of Peter Mulvey or this one guy that used to play at my old high school, who played three/four guitars at once, and was the best unsigned artist in America, although I can't remember his name. Peter Mulvey is a folk artist who is quite talented with an acoustic guitar, might want to look up Peter Mulvey Black Rabbit in youtube, it may look easy at times, but it's a great song and takes a lot of talent to play correctly.
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Do you guys all play guitar too? Is this game somehow sucking guitarists into it's fanbase?
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oh and btw. Ted Nugent is a fascist pig.
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Carlos Santana's pretty good too
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Hands down: Kirk Hamnett of Metallica.
end of discussion
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who played three/four guitars at once
How is it possible to play more than one guitar at the same time? Did he have like 6 arms or something?
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Hands down: Kirk Hamnett of Metallica.
end of discussion
LOL please...get real.
Just like the moron that posted Cobain...dang you guys are so narrow.
Kirk may be a good guitarist, but he is not even close to being close to the best guitarist of all time in any category under the sun.
I laugh at thee who knows not what a real guitarist is.
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who played three/four guitars at once
How is it possible to play more than one guitar at the same time? Did he have like 6 arms or something?
? You can play a guitar with one hand, and he can also play with his feet.
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i digress to this.....
Yngve, Kerry the King, Kirk Hammett, Randy 'suicide' Rhodes, Dime baggage and Alex Lifeson.
*there are better ..i am stuck in the 80' / 90's
*edit. as you will read
unlike others...steely dan....s8n's scam depends on real playing......thus my digression....all...match it. (live)
studio vs live.
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steve ray vaughn.
beg meg pardon..... may the lord slap me for fogetting this
then there is all else.....watch it and prentend to be them
1 coke. + 1 pint of black JD + one uncut proccesed 1/16 of texas best cocaine + your standard white trash meth bath =
Austin city (s)limits:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7330969747612896683
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4046853858982365435
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3142200346305974422
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3746503882872154804
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN185plVQLA (who can read this do this?)
SRV and DBL TRBL always at thier best
live. No matter the venu
*they are all gods. not best
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Did anyone say mark knopfler?
SRV was a god amongst guitarists, as was Randy Rhodes.
I've seen about every SRV video there is. I've not seen many that play with the comfort and ease as he did. It looked effortless, almost like it was just a beautiful involuntary function he performed to perfection.
Kirk Hammett & Kerry King...I don't think do. I love Metallica and Slayer (Slayer more so like you can't even imagine), but they are no "gods" of the guitar compared to others named here.
Really though...the problem here is the title of the thread, "BEST GUITARIST EVER."
Each individual will judge this differently, albeit wrong if they don't agree with me (snicker).
In such a broad title as posted I can seriously only point towards the jazz/classical/flamenco side of the guitar. That is where the greatest talent lies. All talent is minuscule compared to the Macedonian talent of these guitarists (SP-e42).
Until you have listened to them all, you can not judge them all. I'm almost willing to bet the person/people posting kUrt k0Ba1n here have never heard of half the real great guitarists that have been posted. And they definitely don't know who John McLaughlin, Al Di Meola, and Paco de Lucia are.
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Until you have listened to them all, you can not judge them all. I'm almost willing to bet the person/people posting kUrt k0Ba1n here have never heard of half the real great guitarists that have been posted. And they definitely don't know who John McLaughlin, Al Di Meola, and Paco de Lucia are.
I've heard Paco's music... He's amazing.
Bet nobody's heard of Eric Johnson on here... Shame too. He's amazing as well.
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Kirk Hammett & Kerry King...I don't think do. I love Metallica and Slayer (Slayer more so like you can't even imagine), but they are no "gods" of the guitar compared to others named here.
Agreed...... Meh :( btw its now matellica.
I should halved subdivided my categories. ....I stand corrected.
Ralph and Gab are ok?
Oh flenmenco....ayi papi
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Eric Johnson...yes...amazing guitarist.
Carlos Santana is awesome also.
Stanley Jordan
Jeff Healy
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I used to see Eric Johnson and Stevie Ray Vaughn live all of the time in Austin. I still think Stevie is the best though
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UMM!! wer actually all forgeting one good one(unless its in the previous pages which i did not read) Yngwie Malms-
guitar today=speed
guitar before(classicrock)(better)=substance
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Slash.
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UMM!! wer actually all forgeting one good one(unless its in the previous pages which i did not read) Yngwie Malms-
guitar today=speed
guitar before(classicrock)(better)=substance
there are still guitarists who create "substance" and still are fast. You can't say there's one best guitarist, because there are so many gernres. Every genre has a own style of play, which is unique. Lots of good guitarist have been mentioned, but it's all about a own matter of taste.
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Ok, that asian guy from DragonForce. He plays really fast, but it sounds like notes still.
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. Lots of good guitarist have been mentioned, but it's all about a own matter of taste.
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Ya and my matter of taste matters the most:D----naw jks ur right, i just prefer classic rock, iunno why but i can appreciate it more
oops my bad messed up qoute
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Rod and gab...google it. Say that they are not good and I will slap you.
Randy is crunchy.
Stevie can do it all.
On a lesser more logical note...Yes I have been dragon forced in to listen to nice studio perfection. Dream Theater.
Live vs recorded.
please continue arguement