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Title: How do I make a website?
Post by: holmesy on July 30, 2007, 12:48:24 PM
how do you make your own website
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: ViciouZ on July 30, 2007, 01:25:17 PM
:D

Well first you need some hosting. If you want an interactive website with polls, accounts, etc. then you'll probably have to buy some. Otherwise...

If you want an easy simple site without interactivity and/or you have no l33t HTML or PHP skillz, go to http://www.freewebs.com

Mind you, that is the freeloader's way out. And it sucks.
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: blaa on July 30, 2007, 01:34:07 PM
 You can google for web making tutorials. I know there about ~50 tutorials written in estonian so I guess finding some help in english or whatever language is your native language, or whatever language you prefer, shouldnt be hard :D
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: y00tz on July 30, 2007, 01:38:01 PM
how do you make your own website

Since your asking how we make our websites, instead of how you'd make one, here's how I do it..

1.  After necessary client and sales visits have been made, and contracts have been signed, I contact our in-house web designer, Paul.

2.  Paul spends 30-40 hours in close contact with the client, designing the page layout and structure that the client wants, and sends me the appropriate PSD, AI, font files, etc.  For some reason Paul usually calls this file LOL_PONIES!!111ONEELEVENTY.zip or something close to it...

3.  The dossier arrives on my desk, usually via a package containing a CD for Paul's files, a DVD for any video to be incorporated, any specialty software they want included, any stock photos, logos, etc. that the customer already owns, as well as a 40-50 page briefing.

4.  I open Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Illustrator, SQL Enterprise Manager, Visual Web Developer, and occasionally, PHP Designer 2007.

5.  I use Dreamweaver to study the design and finish the cookie cutter style CSS that Paul has left me.  I develop the CSS alongside lolz_ponies.html.  I guess we're both weird..

6.  I study the database structure, and setup the tables.

7.  After the design work looks good in the browsers we care about (in order of importance) .. IE7, FF, IE6, Opera, Konqueror .. I begin working with the ASP.net stuff.

8.  I work with VB or C# for a while, then I'll have 80 hours invested, with a site that looks good in the 5 browsers....

9.  Collect my share of the $35k (usually only 25% :()

edit... Oh yeah, if it's Flash driven, add an extra 25 hours...
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: Eiii on July 30, 2007, 03:12:03 PM
Web designing professionally is icccccccky.

Unless your into that kinda stuff, I guess.
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: TinMan on July 30, 2007, 03:28:16 PM
It's not iccccccky, it just don't pay well at most places, but once in a while you hear of someone who does actually get big bucks for it. It's still something that's good to know for your own use.
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: Apocalypse on July 30, 2007, 07:01:34 PM
man I wish I owned the internet *sigh* lol.
Holmsey if you don't want to pay I suggest you stick to freewebs and similar websites.
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: TinMan on July 30, 2007, 07:11:52 PM
Or get hosting on a free shell site...there's literally thousands of them as long as you keep your content non-commercial.
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: webhead on September 23, 2007, 02:51:58 PM
...
4.  I open Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Illustrator, SQL Enterprise Manager, Visual Web Developer, and occasionally, PHP Designer 2007.
...
wow, somebody else that's heard of phpd. i used to use it, but now that the 2007 version has come along, he charges for the pro version. which sucks. so i just use notepad++.

how do you make your own website
well i'm in your clan now, and i emailed you. so check your email if you get this first.
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: sk89q on September 24, 2007, 02:15:19 AM
I hated PHP Designer. It was slow, extremely buggy (crashing it was a cinch), and new versions did not fix anything. I gave up on that stupid IDE.
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: webhead on September 24, 2007, 02:30:42 AM
i agree, it was slow. and the author seemed to have trouble getting around to all of the bugs that were being reported. he eventually shut down his bug tracking area on his site. although now he just takes bug reports in the forums.
but i haven't used it since the 06 version.
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: webhead on September 24, 2007, 03:42:23 AM
well i'm in your clan now, and i emailed you. so check your email if you get this first.
too late, another (better) clan snapped me up.
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: Sonny on September 24, 2007, 09:07:20 AM
www.joomla.com (http://www.joomla.com)
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: y00tz on September 24, 2007, 12:56:28 PM
I hated PHP Designer. It was slow, extremely buggy (crashing it was a cinch), and new versions did not fix anything. I gave up on that stupid IDE.

What do you use now? Notepad? Notepad++?
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: KiLo on September 24, 2007, 01:08:06 PM
y00tz you disappoint me by using Dreamweaver.

Frontpage is the way to go.
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: KnacK on September 24, 2007, 02:25:55 PM
Frontpage=666


DW FTW!
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: ViciouZ on September 24, 2007, 02:28:12 PM
Nvu :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: y00tz on September 24, 2007, 02:49:16 PM
Frontpage is the way to go.

Haha, </sarcasm> ?

Frontpage is discontinued now.. what do they call the new thing.. expression web developer? I don't know..

My experience with Dreamweaver has been great, ironically up until this morning, at which point it will not open...
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: KnacK on September 24, 2007, 03:19:46 PM
/me disables his remote dialup h4x0r DW exploit so that y00tz can get to work
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: webhead on September 24, 2007, 04:18:05 PM
bottom line = dreamweaver is pretty good; frontpage generates crap code; notepad++ FTW.
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: Cobo on September 24, 2007, 04:25:50 PM
Frontpage is discontinued now.. what do they call the new thing.. expression web developer? I don't know..

You mean Visual Web Developer?
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: y00tz on September 24, 2007, 05:05:14 PM
I know of Visual Web Developer,  I swore they had some Expressions Web Designer that was closer to FrontPage.

-y00tz
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: webhead on September 24, 2007, 09:39:39 PM
I know of Visual Web Developer,  I swore they had some Expressions Web Designer that was closer to FrontPage.

-y00tz
ya i think you're right.
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: Zorchenhimer on September 24, 2007, 10:15:29 PM
I know of Visual Web Developer,  I swore they had some Expressions Web Designer that was closer to FrontPage.

-y00tz

FrontPage Express? I've tried it (a long while ago) and I didn't like it.
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: webhead on September 24, 2007, 11:03:03 PM
FrontPage Express? I've tried it (a long while ago) and I didn't like it.
LOLOL, no not fp express. i do remember that though, it came with Win98. it's what i used to teach myself.
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: y00tz on September 24, 2007, 11:06:25 PM
What do you know, I was actually right :D

Quote
Microsoft FrontPage has since been replaced by Microsoft Expression Web and Sharepoint Designer.
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: sk89q on September 26, 2007, 07:43:46 PM
What do you use now? Notepad? Notepad++?

I think I've mentioned this before. SciTE. :D

And I'm not switching, unless someone finds me an editor that is just as fast, has more features, and doesn't look ugly (Notepad++ is ugly).
Title: Re: How do I make a website?
Post by: y00tz on September 27, 2007, 01:24:12 AM
I think I've mentioned this before. SciTE. :D

Probably, I also have 8 pages of unread threads to tend to soon...