Author Topic: In progress: y_urban (Read 16125 times)

y00tz · « **Reply #40 on:** January 25, 2008, 01:05:08 AM »

Thanks for feedback on the buildings, for now I just thought I'd get some higher-res shots up so you can see the tweaks to the shutters/awnings/windows, as well as the warehouse. All textures, even proportions are not final, so save the superfluous comments for now. For example, the cement and window textures are not final, also the dimensions of the warehouse are subject to change for sure...

Thanks.

(Purpose of feedback here would be comments about the awnings/complex in general)

sk89q · « **Reply #41 on:** January 25, 2008, 01:22:05 AM »

Textures need more contrast. It's going along the way of CTP. On the crate, for example, the lines are really faint and have no depth (and the crate is practically one color). As for the other textures, I can't really pinpoint why I am not fond of them (like as in CTP). I guess I could say, that from such a distance away, it looks like the texture practically has only one color and no texture to it. This could possibly be because of the contrast. (However, the texture for the awnings is good.)

For example, look at these crates:
http://www.garagegames.com/blogs/45734/10135
It even has built-in shadows.

The color of your crates is a little too reddish in my opinion too.

As for lighting, I think you need more contrast there too (darker vs. lighter places). It is nearly full-bright, so I think you might need to lower sun ambiance a little and use "artificial" lighting more.

y00tz · « **Reply #42 on:** January 25, 2008, 01:39:33 AM »

Gah, did you read my remark regarding textures?

The crates are red because I'm using a trick technique in lighting some of the red colored brushes near it (brick walls in the warehouse) which I'll correct when it gets closer to a beta. The crates you use in your examples, do have built in shadows, I think that's not a good thing, they completely lose all depth the second you get along side of them, and when a face is lit, you still see a bad, unrealistic shadow. Without bump mapping it would be impossible to get the illusion I want for the crates, other than modeling them all out, which is looking like a good option at the moment.

I admit, the CTP is pretty much in need of re-texturing, when I started the CTP I knew nothing about making game textures, and within a few weeks I was merely taking photosourced images and touching them off by offsetting and cloning, which makes me laugh now, no wonder they're all so bad!

edit: here's the brick style in mind for the warehouse

sk89q · « **Reply #43 on:** January 25, 2008, 02:51:50 AM »

I didn't. :/

Those two screenshots look better. The pole is a little too fat though, and the sidewalk looks a little too tall.

KnacK · « **Reply #44 on:** January 25, 2008, 07:00:16 AM »

..and the walk through door opening to the warehouse is a wee bit thick.

But cudos y-man, looking great.

Magical-Tree · « **Reply #45 on:** January 25, 2008, 07:46:58 AM »

It looks sort of like a cartoon to me. Although this is much better than most DP maps. =]

Keep going y00tz.

y00tz · « **Reply #46 on:** January 25, 2008, 09:32:17 AM »

Quote from: sk89q on January 25, 2008, 02:51:50 AM

I didn't. :/

Those two screenshots look better. The pole is a little too fat though, and the sidewalk looks a little too tall.

Sidewalk is 16px, a player step.. what do you think about 8? And I just copied the pole from the other corners, yeah it needs to be thinned out.

KnacK · « **Reply #47 on:** January 25, 2008, 09:33:58 AM »

8, I think, would be much better.

Garrett · « **Reply #48 on:** January 25, 2008, 09:34:47 AM »

Quote from: y00tz on January 25, 2008, 09:32:17 AM

Sidewalk is 16px, a player step.. what do you think about 8? And I just copied the pole from the other corners, yeah it needs to be thinned out.

8 sounds better but I do really like this map. It looks great and should be an interesting map to play in too.
Edit: Knack beat me by 45 seconds

XtremeBain · « **Reply #49 on:** January 25, 2008, 10:46:22 AM »

I'll make sure these screenshots are passed along to eR33t's resident awning expert. (seriously...)

y00tz · « **Reply #50 on:** January 25, 2008, 12:10:14 PM »

er33t has an owning expert, and an awning expert?

XtremeBain · « **Reply #51 on:** January 25, 2008, 12:22:27 PM »

It's basically the same person.

y00tz · « **Reply #52 on:** January 25, 2008, 01:07:49 PM »

Granted, yet I'm still very intrigued.

DaRkNeSS · « **Reply #53 on:** January 25, 2008, 03:22:17 PM »

Digi's dad sells awnings I think.

I think it's really looking great y00tz. Just a few suggestions/ideas
- Like other have said reduce the sidewalk height to 8
- The awnings look good but I think they're a little too high above the window. Heres some pictures showing how you could possibly change the look
- http://www.mhz.de/uploads/pics/mhz_fenstermarkisen_akzent3_03.jpg
- http://www.screen-house.com/images/FG_Images/Matrix_Images/FWA4700_250h.jpg
- http://www.commercialmetalawning.com/images/home_images/window.jpg
- http://www.hudsonawning.com/images/frog2.jpg
- The texture that you're using for the... jk I read what you said

It's looking really great and it's your map so do what you would like. Just though I'd give my ideas.

y00tz · « **Reply #54 on:** June 10, 2008, 11:17:36 AM »

Not dead...

I'll post the concepts for the other half soon (and maybe the concept for this half, even though they vary greatly from what I've done)

Zorchenhimer · « **Reply #55 on:** June 10, 2008, 11:28:16 AM »

...I just noticed, but that sky texture in the SShots above, are those the ones I remade?

P!nk · « **Reply #56 on:** June 10, 2008, 11:32:56 AM »

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UnRateD · « **Reply #57 on:** June 10, 2008, 11:34:43 AM »

Quote from: P!nk on June 10, 2008, 11:32:56 AM

Does the warehouse remind anyone else of the Killer Bean?

now that you say so, sorta does.

y00tz · « **Reply #58 on:** June 10, 2008, 11:38:03 AM »

Quote from: Zorchenhimer on June 10, 2008, 11:28:16 AM

...I just noticed, but that sky texture in the SShots above, are those the ones I remade?

Heh, maybe, I'm not sure.

I'm liking the night time look, but I had a sky texture in advance that I was planning on using. I'll have to post some screenies.

Quote from: P!nk on June 10, 2008, 11:32:56 AM

Does the warehouse remind anyone else of the Killer Bean?

I'm not familiar and Wikipedia doesn't have any screenshots, mind linking?

UnRateD · « **Reply #59 on:** June 10, 2008, 11:40:30 AM »

quickest link i cud find to an image.

http://www.jefflew.com/pic.jpg

not great though

plus is this the same killer bean p!nk was talking about, cus its the one i am talking about. TALKING ABOUT !!