DP2 is being sold... for money.

[TheRealUMaster]

Hello fellows, I am finally online  and I am here to tell you something interesting.
J.G sent me an email with a link to a product on Saturn's website (Saturn is a German chain of electronics stores).
This product was nothing other than DP2.
It is being sold by a company called "Braun Handels GmbH" for 10 EUR.
Discuss it for yourselves. LOL
Link to product: DP2 for 10 EUR

[Minerva]

Someone sent us those pictures on the dp2 skype group

[jitspoe]

That's crazy!  I'm not even sure how to react to that.  It's pretty cool to see a boxed copy of the game, but who just grabs a free game off of the Internet and publishes it like that, without even contacting the developer?

I tried to order a copy to see what's actually on the disc, but it looks like it can only be shipped to German addresses.

I'm going to try contacting Braun Handels about this.

[shockk]

Someone was saying in the Skype group that's its just the game and a serial key or something that comes with it? I don't know

[TheRealUMaster]

Someone sent us those pictures on the dp2 skype group

Could you tell us who? (as i am not in the skype group)

[rockitude]

Could you tell us who? (as i am not in the skype group)

kui/kuipo found the game in his local Markt +Technik store and shared the pictures in the Skype group. Then others found the game on Amazon and Saturn.
Amazon link: http://www.amazon.de/Markt-Technik-Digital-Paint-Paintball/dp/B01ADCX3KI/

[TheRealUMaster]

kui/kuipo found the game in his local Markt +Technik store and shared the pictures in the Skype group. Then others found the game on Amazon and Saturn.
Amazon link: http://www.amazon.de/Markt-Technik-Digital-Paint-Paintball/dp/B01ADCX3KI/

Thanks. Wow. Markt + Technik does also sell OpenOffice - for 10 EUR. Weird.

[ulappen]

please jitspoe these time, do a good information politics because its an very importand theme. And be a little careful, because the risk that you would lost all rights of the game, if the game is really dead this time.

Buts only your thing if you want that the game die or not. We hope you do the right things.

German:

jitspoe, fahre diesmal eine gute informationspolitik, weil es ein sehr wichtiges Thema ist. Und sei ein wenig vorsichtig, aufgrund des Risikos, das du alle Rechte verlierst und dann wäre das Spiel endgültig tod.

Es ist einzig und allein deine Verantwortung, dsa dass Spiel am Leben bleibt.
Wir hoffen das du es richtig angehst und keine größeren Fehler begehst.

[Mission]

That is mad! Keep us posted Jitspoe, I saw this on the skype chat and was going to buy a copy because it would be cool to have a hard copy, but you aren't even selling it? Unbelievable!

[L3vi]

It's probably these guys
http://www.braun-handels.de/impressum.htm

After reading their terms & conditions I feel like they are only responsible for distributing the game,- I wonder who commited the distribution...

[rockitude]

That is mad! Keep us posted Jitspoe, I saw this on the skype chat and was going to buy a copy because it would be cool to have a hard copy, but you aren't even selling it? Unbelievable!

I think jitspoe isn't allowed to sell it, because it is a mod of Quake2. The only money he gets is through donations and that has to be a much smaller amount than the server costs.

[P!nk]

That's crazy!  I'm not even sure how to react to that.  It's pretty cool to see a boxed copy of the game, but who just grabs a free game off of the Internet and publishes it like that, without even contacting the developer?

I tried to order a copy to see what's actually on the disc, but it looks like it can only be shipped to German addresses.

I'm going to try contacting Braun Handels about this.

Given how many Germans play this game, I'm sure one of them could buy it & send it to you, I'm curious what's on it as well, lol. At least they put some effort into the cover art.

Is this legal, by the way? My brother said DP isn't really 100% open source.

[Ace]

Is this legal, by the way? My brother said DP isn't really 100% open source.

I'm fairly sure you cannot sell a mod for quake 2. Let alone someone else's.

[Calrathan]

I believe ZeniMax Media owns publishing rights to iD software games, which means they would have to peruse this matter.  I'll attempt to contact their legal team.

[Calrathan]

No, Nathan and I cannot sell Digital Paint: Paintball 2.  I had a discussion with the iD Software legal department about this nearly 15 years ago.

It's a bit annoying that someone else is making money from the game that we made and haven't been able to profit from.

[p4nic]

It's probably these guys
http://www.braun-handels.de/impressum.htm

After reading their terms & conditions I feel like they are only responsible for distributing the game,- I wonder who commited the distribution...

If "D-90559 Burgthann" is the correct address i could visit these guys. It isn't that far away from me.

[ic3y]

Given how many Germans play this game, I'm sure one of them could buy it & send it to you, I'm curious what's on it as well, lol. At least they put some effort into the cover art.

Is this legal, by the way? My brother said DP isn't really 100% open source.

I will get my copy today , I will post an update here


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[pvtjimmy]

Ic3y, are the original user agreements included (when installing)? They clearly state the game should not be sold and can only be distributed as long as there is no monetary gain.

[ic3y]

Looks like the normal installer.

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[ulappen]

bitte jemand, dem jitspo das auf der letzen Seite unter Markt und technik, fachgerecht übersetzen